All ages version?

[Mr. Hugh Mannity]

Is it? Need some confirmation here...

[cheru]

Yes it is

This is the ported version of the PS2 version which has 7 different routes rather than just 5.

[Mr. Hugh Mannity]

Originally posted by cheru:

Yes it is

This is the ported version of the PS2 version which has 7 different routes rather than just 5.

Cool! Thanks for the confirmation. Although it's unfortunate that there won't be any h-scenes, who knows if I might ended up buying it for the sake of the story. Guess we'll see.

[razisgosu]

Originally posted by cheru:

Yes it is

This is the ported version of the PS2 version which has 7 different routes rather than just 5.

Will there be an 18+ version hosted elsewhere?

[Anton HE]

Originally posted by cheru:

Yes it is

This is the ported version of the PS2 version which has 7 different routes rather than just 5.

So this version is still missing a few routes? Why not go for the Shuffle Essence+ edition?

Guess I'll sit this version out, almost got my hopes up. Good luck.

[Code x70]

Originally posted by Anton HE:

So this version is still missing a few routes? Why not go for the Shuffle Essence+ edition?
Guess I'll sit this version out, almost got my hopes up. Good luck.

'Cause essence is +18. The console version is already all-age, no need to change anything to sell it on steam.

[Zer0Klay]

I will definetly pass. First i had read the Mangagamer version (which i disliked it) and second Shuffle! Essence＋or nothing.

Still is nice to see a new visual novel publisher.

Edit: make an all age edition from Essence+ and sell it on Steam and aditionally the +18 version on DLsite, Nutaku or Denpasoft is the right idea.

[Hake[N] Trigger]

Oh, now I understand why MangaGamer doesn't have the rights anymore.

It's a good thing to see the licence come back on PC, but I'm sad (and a little frustrated) to see it isn't the most complete version only because it must be published on Steam and to do this, 18+ content has to be cut. So as for today, like some people on this thread, I'll only pick the most complete version (Essence+, which has even more routes) when it'll be out on English.

I'll not say I know how licensing works because i'd be lying. But I find it rather sad to see publishers restraining themselves only because they think Steam censored versions are, and will sell, better than the most complete and/or uncensored versions would sell on MG, Denpasoft or Nutaku. Visibility isn't everything, and censorship is becoming one of the most checked criteria when checking if a VN is worth buying.

[ZK]

Originally posted by razisgosu:

Will there be an 18+ version hosted elsewhere?

I'd like to know as well

EDIT: ah crap I misread, thanks Haken

[Hake[N] Trigger]

Because it seems some people didn't understand : this version is the PS2 All-Ages games ported to PC. So no 18+ patch, because it was a censored version from the start. In opposite, the "Essence+" version that some of us wants is the most complete and uncensored version.

To conclude : stop asking 18+ patches, they don't exist for a console version.

[Dergonu]

Originally posted by Haken Trigger:

Because it seems some people didn't understand : this version is the PS2 All-Ages games ported to PC. So no 18+ patch, because it was a censored version from the start. In opposite, the "Essence+" version that some of us wants is the most complete and uncensored version.

To conclude : stop asking 18+ patches, they don't exist for a console version.

Emm... you speak as if a port of the original content back into a console game is impossible. (It is not. Both Muv-luv and the Grisaia franchise has done this recently.)
Making a patch is definitely the way to go. Simply releasing the censored version of an eroge is a bit... eh.
They speak as if H-scenes never existed here in the first place, but since this game is 18+ originally, that's not true. Sure, the port they are working on doesn't have them, but the game itself does. (And moreover, this particular game does actually have some pretty important story elements in certain H-scenes. Won't go into detail due to spoilers, but yeah...)

I really hope they will consider adding in a ported patch with the original content, as a censored release is quite a waste. Seeing as Mangagamer's 18+ version is no longer for sale, this will be the only English version available legally, so if it has no 18+ content, that will no longer be acessible for the English market.

[Hake[N] Trigger]

Originally posted by Dergonu:

Originally posted by Haken Trigger:

Because it seems some people didn't understand : this version is the PS2 All-Ages games ported to PC. So no 18+ patch, because it was a censored version from the start. In opposite, the "Essence+" version that some of us wants is the most complete and uncensored version.

To conclude : stop asking 18+ patches, they don't exist for a console version.

Emm... you speak as if a port of the original content back into a console game is impossible. (It is not. Both Muv-luv and the Grisaia franchise has done this recently.)
Making a patch is definitely the way to go. Simply releasing the censored version of an eroge is a bit... eh.
They speak as if H-scenes never existed here in the first place, but since this game is 18+ originally, that's not true. Sure, the port they are working on doesn't have them, but the game itself does. (And moreover, this particular game does actually have some pretty important story elements in certain H-scenes. Won't go into detail due to spoilers, but yeah...)

I really hope they will consider adding in a ported patch with the original content, as a censored release is quite a waste. Seeing as Mangagamer's 18+ version is no longer for sale, this will be the only English version available legally, so if it has no 18+ content, that will no longer be acessible for the English market.

The biggest problem with this is that the uncensored parts are from other versions of the game, and I don't think they're aiming for a mixing like SP. What I see here is a company that just saw the All Ages version, and decided to port it as-is because it's the only one ready for Steam. In opposite, SP had to rewrite everything to mix the consoles and PC versions of Grisaia, to include the console addings and the PC scenes. So I really doubt about a 18+ patch. Well, it's not a doubt, I'm sure there'll never be an official one. Maybe if someone discovers how to manipulate the game files, we'll have a fan one. But I honestly think an official one will never come for the "on the stage" version.

[ドラザラー]

Would be nice to have the chance to read the Essence+ version in my own langauge. However, I think I will stick with the Japanese version.

[Kiryu]

Originally posted by Mr. Hugh Mannity:

who knows if I might ended up buying it for the sake of the story. Guess we'll see.

Suffle's story is just average, being generous. At the current price and without h-scenes it's not worth it.

[Mr. Hugh Mannity]

Originally posted by Kira:

Originally posted by Mr. Hugh Mannity:

who knows if I might ended up buying it for the sake of the story. Guess we'll see.

Suffle's story is just average, being generous. At the current price and without h-scenes it's not worth it.

Yeah, I'm thinking on getting it during a big sale or something, at least until there's a trading card. Besides I already got a huge VN backlog as it is.