[HELP] Stalker cat not spawning, can't get "intimidate white machairodus" feat

[Attempt_NP1]

Hey there Ancestors community,

So I have done everything in the game except for two final evolutionary feats. One of these is under the "Feared Enemy" category. More specifically, the game wants me to intimidate a white machairodus.

Now based on what I have read, there is a special cat in the game referred to as the stalking/stalker cat. There is a chance that the cat will be either a black, golden or white machairodus, but while all three of these can be the stalker, one of these machairodi will only spawn as the stalker cat. That's the white machairodus.

The problem is, the stalker cat isn't spawning. I have passed generations, slept multiple times in the outdoors (ranging between 1-2 days), changed settlements, but still nothing.

Has anyone else encountered this problem? Is there a point in the game when they don't spawn anymore? Does anyone have any tips to help increase the chance of it spawning?

Thanks in advance for any help. Hopefully, I can resolve this issue and complete the game.

[[BLK] Telu]

I've encounter the white one at the beginning. But, yeah, it's complicated to encounter it. Apparently, you need to change generation to see him again. But maybe you will see the golden one, so ... :/

Those cats should have a lair. It's pretty annoying to finish progress since they appears pretty randomly.

My advice will be to close/open the game before doing a generation leap. To make predators spawn again.

[Attempt_NP1]

[BLK] Telu

Thanks for the prompt reply.

According to https://ancestors.fandom.com/wiki/White_Machairodus, the white machairodus only spawns as a stalker cat with no lair, although the wiki could be wrong.

I'll try closing the game before my next few attempts. Hopefully that increases my chances.

Do you remember the biome(s) you encountered it in? I know I have seen them in the past, but I don't remember where it was. At the time, I didn't even know there was a stalker cat. I just thought they were nearby and I aggroed them/they picked up my scent.

[[BLK] Telu]

I encountered it in the jungle biome (Little/Big swamp or rockslide oasis maybe?). But yeah, the game seem to reset the predators when you close it and than you jump a generation. But i can't confirm.

After the canyon, it's mostly black one. It's sure. So your settlement need to be in the jungle or the lake area.

But i think the stalker spawn near your camp, so ... (But i'd encounter the golden one far away from my camp when i was exploring.)

[Anthracite]

You might have got really (un)lucky and just not had a white one spawn, but from what I know stalkers are only guaranteed after evolution leaps, not always generational ones.

[Attempt_NP1]

Appreciate the help guys! Let me start with:

[BLK] Telu

I'm not sure if by "close" you mean the program itself or just returning to the title screen, so I'll do the former for now. I'll also try moving my settlement to the oasis you mentioned and see how things go.

I think I once read somewhere that either from the Woodlands or Savanna the stalker cat won't spawn as a white machairodus, so I've been avoiding venturing into and establishing a settlement in any location between the Woodlands and Ocean.

Anthracite

That's really good to know. I can't do anymore evolutionary leaps (I assume it's because I got the final evolution a while back), so that's no longer an option for me. If possible, could you tell me if you know for sure that you got one to spawn after a generational jump? That might give me some hope, since I can still do generational jumps even after unlocking all of the neurons.

I probably wasn't clear enough, but the problem actually isn't that I have never had a white machairodus spawn. I actually encountered multiple early/mid-game (and maybe later as well; I wasn't even aware that there was a stalker cat). My problem seems to be that the stalker cat just isn't spawning anymore, regardless of the color.

My main concern is that I did something, either after getting all the evolutions or all the neurons, that caused the game to stop spawning the SC (or maybe I messed with it by kiting animals very long distances for the astute dominator feats...I'm not sure, this game is far from being glitch-free, and I have had animals--like the centipedes in the "Cave's Secluded Entrance" and the cave near the entrance of the Woodlands--disappear and not respawn even after jumping generations and "fast-forwarding" through the days).

[[BLK] Telu]

By closing the game, i mean closing the game. :D
You can remove the intro video from the install folder if you don't want to see then all other again.

The wiki say than jumping a generation respawn the stalker cat. And after the canyon, wiki say than there is mostly black cat.

[Attempt_NP1]

[BLK] Telu

Right, but there is still ambiguity with the word, and I am trying to pinpoint things as specifically as I can to ensure that I am doing everything possible to get this animal to spawn. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to argue semantics with you and I appreciate the help, but I just wanted to clarify why I was asking for further precision.

Thanks for letting me know. I noticed that same point on the wiki page I posted, although I found elsewhere on the web a post where a player mentioned that they were uncommon in the Woodlands and Savanna. Who knows? They could be mistaken but so could the wiki. I just hope the dice roll in my favor at some point.

Well, since I can't perform evolutionary leaps anymore, I will keep doing generational jumps after exiting and then re-entering the program. Hopefully I will encounter one while working on my other final evolutionary feat (recruit a hungry outsider).

I played for about an hour and a half today but no dice for either. Fingers crossed something will happen the next time I play.

[Anthracite]

Originally posted by Attempt_NP1:

Anthracite

That's really good to know. I can't do anymore evolutionary leaps (I assume it's because I got the final evolution a while back), so that's no longer an option for me. If possible, could you tell me if you know for sure that you got one to spawn after a generational jump? That might give me some hope, since I can still do generational jumps even after unlocking all of the neurons.

I probably wasn't clear enough, but the problem actually isn't that I have never had a white machairodus spawn. I actually encountered multiple early/mid-game (and maybe later as well; I wasn't even aware that there was a stalker cat). My problem seems to be that the stalker cat just isn't spawning anymore, regardless of the color.

My main concern is that I did something, either after getting all the evolutions or all the neurons, that caused the game to stop spawning the SC (or maybe I messed with it by kiting animals very long distances for the astute dominator feats...I'm not sure, this game is far from being glitch-free, and I have had animals--like the centipedes in the "Cave's Secluded Entrance" and the cave near the entrance of the Woodlands--disappear and not respawn even after jumping generations and "fast-forwarding" through the days).

Some people think stalker cats spawn after generation leaps, but as far as I can tell that isn't true. What does happen is that you are guaranteed one stalker cat after an evolution leap, but sometimes a second one will appear. Some people who have already skipped a generation after killing the first then think it's related to the generation leap, but in reality it's just the by-chance second one.

So unfortunately for you I don't think you're going to get another stalker cat if you have no evos left, and by the sounds of it you would have definitely been stalked by this point if it was going to. I could be wrong, I don't have access to the code, but from my experience SCs do only appear after evo leaps and the unexpected second one just confuses people into assuming it's a generational thing.

[Cougarific]

Originally posted by BLK Telu:

You can remove the intro video from the install folder if you don't want to see then all other again.

The opening cinematic is skippable. Just hold Tab on keyboard or whatever the in-game skip button is for your controller.

[Attempt_NP1]

Anthracite

Thanks for letting me know. You may very well be right. I finally got my second-to-last feat (recruit a hungry outsider) after playing a few sessions totaling 5 hours or so, but in spite of trying everything I could to get the cat to spawn during this time, it never appeared. I also killed every machairodus I encountered in the jungle, lake, cave and even some of the woodland, but no dice.

I'm glad I got one of the feats at least, but it's too bad I couldn't get this one. Out of curiosity, I reached out to the developer (Panache) and wrote the following:

"Thank you for developing Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey. It's an interesting game with a unique concept, and I've tried to see everything the game has to offer.

I've done everything except the "intimidate a white machairodus" evolutionary feat. From what I have read, your team put a "stalking cat" into the game, and while this can spawn as any machairodus type, only the white one can spawn as the stalking cat. My problem is that I have spent a few hours trying to get it to spawn (moving settlements, changing generations, sleeping for extended periods of time in the wild, etc.) with no success.

So I was wondering if you could tell me what the spawn conditions are for the stalking cat. Does it only spawn after evolutionary leaps (and thus am I locked out because I can't do those anymore), or is there something else I am missing?"

I may never get a response, but if I do, I'll post it here.

Cougarific

Good to know. Thanks for sharing.

[[BLK] Telu]

I think than you see two stalker cat if you change biome while exploring (When the stalker cat was reset). But can't confirm.

It's still better to put your settlement in the jungle biome. The starting area is the area where the 3 stalkers can spawn for sure. (After the first meteorite location)

Anyway, you should come ask on discord : https://discord.gg/Panache

[Helios]

Originally posted by Attempt_NP1:

Hey there Ancestors community,

So I have done everything in the game except for two final evolutionary feats. One of these is under the "Feared Enemy" category. More specifically, the game wants me to intimidate a white machairodus.

Now based on what I have read, there is a special cat in the game referred to as the stalking/stalker cat. There is a chance that the cat will be either a black, golden or white machairodus, but while all three of these can be the stalker, one of these machairodi will only spawn as the stalker cat. That's the white machairodus.

The problem is, the stalker cat isn't spawning. I have passed generations, slept multiple times in the outdoors (ranging between 1-2 days), changed settlements, but still nothing.

Has anyone else encountered this problem? Is there a point in the game when they don't spawn anymore? Does anyone have any tips to help increase the chance of it spawning?

Thanks in advance for any help. Hopefully, I can resolve this issue and complete the game.

From my expierience the stalker cat has higher chance to spawn if you are drinking, at the small river near the cascade oasis i could allways spawn cats that were following me.

[Cougarific]

Stalker cat spawns depending on how much time you spend on the ground.

[Scyobi_Empire]

Originally posted by Attempt_NP1:

[BLK] Telu

Thanks for the prompt reply.

According to https://ancestors.fandom.com/wiki/White_Machairodus, the white machairodus only spawns as a stalker cat with no lair, although the wiki could be wrong.

I'll try closing the game before my next few attempts. Hopefully that increases my chances.

Do you remember the biome(s) you encountered it in? I know I have seen them in the past, but I don't remember where it was. At the time, I didn't even know there was a stalker cat. I just thought they were nearby and I aggroed them/they picked up my scent.

Wiki is wrong on that, I've found many wild White Cats in the forest

[Attempt_NP1]

Hey everyone,

Apologies for the belated reply. I appreciate all of your input and have decided to share some information I received.

The Panache Team got back to me after I contacted them, and this is what they told me:

"Hello,

We’re sorry to answer you so late, this was a very busy month at the studio! First of all, we want to thank you for your kind words. Even if we’re not on Ancestors anymore, it is always appreciated to receive some letters like yours. To answer your question, we took the time to ask to our game designer and we can say that the white machairodus appears mainly in the Woodland and Savannah biome. So we can affirm that it is mainly a geographical condition. We hope that will heal to achieve your last evolutionary feat.!

We wish you the very best,

The Panache Team"

Truth be told, I was pretty burnt out when I last played this game, so I have yet to return and try to complete my final evolutionary feat. I am not sure if I will jump back into the game, but I hope this information proves useful to someone.

Take care!