NieR:Automata™

NieR:Automata™

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why is this game rated so highly?
so i'm seriously wondering why this game is rated as highly as it is.
1. controls are utter crap. with a console it's doable, but keyboard? it's rage quit material.
2. camera persective constantly shifting. there are 5! FIVE! diffrent persectives that the game constantly shifts to. side scroller, top down, the arcade fighter modes,.... man pick one and stick with it! don't just do 'all of the above' man can't imagine what the camera team went through to make all this possible.
3. textures are crap. man i do'nt think you need to be a detective to notice this one. graphics makes me think of my PS2 games. only ones worth anything is the MC & villain models and maybe boss ones. otherwise it's crap.
4. one minor thing i also got annoyed at it's that the enemy sets are just reskins with slight adjustments. not that important but still this is not something i liked.
5. combat is just meh. the pod stuff is an interesting addition but the rest is bogstandard combat, just meh.
6.i'm only on my 9s playthrough, so hopefully this aint true of the other routes but, the fact it's a copy paste from the first playthrough is NOT cool and is very boring.
7. side quests also seem lacking in interesting content or twists. also game doesn't take your level into consideration so you often run into a quest area only to discover this quest was supposed to be completed much later(and die a horrible death).
8. dark souls death mechanics. ah man i HATE this one. luckily with my survival mods i don't die easily anymore but this one is sooo anoying. the fact you lose your chips when you die is almost a death sentence if you can't recover them.

only thing i actually really liked(and feels deserving of the rating) is some of the soundtracks.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von ベルカイ:
Modding fixes most of your problems. There are texture mods, 4k cutscenes and shaders. There is also a mod called NAIOM for KB&M users.
You should check this guide. https://www.nexusmods.com/nierautomata/mods/29

This game is not a random game. Most of the things have a reason in this game. Such as colorless Bunker etc. Even some of the camera angles has a meaning. There are pretty important text stories too.

This game is about story, philosophy, journey, characters and most importantly emotion. It's a classic.

Here's an estus to help you finish this game. :estusfull:

:praisesun:
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1. It's a hack'n'slash game, KB&M is not recommended for these games anyway.

2. It's an artistic choice, so to speak. Some like it, others don't.

3. Overall graphics are fine. If you're concerned about every single pixel on the screen, it's only your problem really.

4. Valid complaint, the enemy roster could've use some more variety.

5. Donguri is laughing somewhere in a distance.
https://youtu.be/ZAe4i5RnmuQ
https://youtu.be/d3Eh0jbddmk
https://youtu.be/74Y3BJy6HXI
https://youtu.be/Mr2DKNL3Gdo

6. A/B routes are mostly the same, whereas Route C is a completely different game. In a sense A/B is a prologue and C is where the game starts for real.

7. JRPG's are well-known for having either ridiculous or tedious sidequests. Though, in defense of Automata, some sidequests provide essential story-related information.

8. You can load your most recent save to avoid having to go there and recover your chips.

To answer your question - the story and the questions it raises is what makes Automata what it is. That, and a heavenly soundtrack.
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Modding fixes most of your problems. There are texture mods, 4k cutscenes and shaders. There is also a mod called NAIOM for KB&M users.
You should check this guide. https://www.nexusmods.com/nierautomata/mods/29

This game is not a random game. Most of the things have a reason in this game. Such as colorless Bunker etc. Even some of the camera angles has a meaning. There are pretty important text stories too.

This game is about story, philosophy, journey, characters and most importantly emotion. It's a classic.

Here's an estus to help you finish this game. :estusfull:

:praisesun:
yeah i'll deffo do some of that guide. i'll also most likely finish the game. i do'nt like to leave a game half-finished.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fabiaville:
7. side quests also seem lacking in interesting content or twists.

It's as though you didn't even do any of the sidequests before you went through this game.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fabiaville:
also game doesn't take your level into consideration so you often run into a quest area only to discover this quest was supposed to be completed much later(and die a horrible death).

This isn't even a poor or an uncommon aspect of RPG design. Not everything has enemies that scale to you like Skyrim or FFVIII, and even those games can lead to premature death if you go into an area that is beyond the intended level.
namvfpx 13. Okt. 2021 um 20:28 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Fabiaville:
so i'm seriously wondering why this game is rated as highly as it is.
1. controls are utter crap. with a console it's doable, but keyboard? it's rage quit material.
Man, hash & slash with K&M? It is not FPS game. Buy a gamepad to play RPG.
2. camera persective constantly shifting. there are 5! FIVE! diffrent persectives that the game constantly shifts to. side scroller, top down, the arcade fighter modes,.... man pick one and stick with it! don't just do 'all of the above' man can't imagine what the camera team went through to make all this possible.
Personal hobby. Some time I didn't like it too.
3. textures are crap. man i do'nt think you need to be a detective to notice this one. graphics makes me think of my PS2 games. only ones worth anything is the MC & villain models and maybe boss ones. otherwise it's crap.
Compare to another JRPGs, some like they created from cartoon. This game is great.
4. one minor thing i also got annoyed at it's that the enemy sets are just reskins with slight adjustments. not that important but still this is not something i liked.
Play tales of arise or any RPG game, you will see the same, they have not even changed model and texture, just recolor.
5. combat is just meh. the pod stuff is an interesting addition but the rest is bogstandard combat, just meh.
Play and discover more. I feel good with this combat mechanics, not just stand and spam skill button like some other games.
6.i'm only on my 9s playthrough, so hopefully this aint true of the other routes but, the fact it's a copy paste from the first playthrough is NOT cool and is very boring.
Route B is following the route A but at another view. You feel the same route A when 9S and 2B are going together.
You discover more the game story at the view of 9S, a scanner model.
7. side quests also seem lacking in interesting content or twists. also game doesn't take your level into consideration so you often run into a quest area only to discover this quest was supposed to be completed much later(and die a horrible death).
Do you often skip side quest at any RPG you played, right?
Side quest give you more items, pod programs, weapons and some small interesting story.
8. dark souls death mechanics. ah man i HATE this one. luckily with my survival mods i don't die easily anymore but this one is sooo anoying. the fact you lose your chips when you die is almost a death sentence if you can't recover them.
Fortunately, you can often save and load.
only thing i actually really liked(and feels deserving of the rating) is some of the soundtracks.
The best thing I like from this game a long with the story.
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1. I always play 3rd person perespective with a controller, since i got aone in 2014, so for this game IDK, but in my opinion, I played many arkham games with KB+mouse, before 2014, because i didn't had money for a controller, and it was even better, because i could move the mouse around WHILE attackig to see what i had to counter.
2. That's one of the gimmicks since the original Nier o even the before games from ps2 (Drakengard) , as far as I've read, its pretty interesting that one game includes, bullet hell, side scroller, TPS, and I do get you, I was really confused during the first hour of the tutorial, but also I get the developer trying to shake thing up and adding "games" they enjoyed while they were young.
3. I am spechless about the graphics, because thats one of the hardest selling points of this game, it looks beautiful, and as far as I've read you could play in the lowests setting at 720p and still has some filtering and looks nice. Besides, lets be honest the biggest selling point of AAA videogames is graphics, since 2009, but the indie community has come and told them they could use paint graphics and still have good gameplay, like that among us game..
4. I don't understand this, but I also didn't like the enemies designs, but ok, as far as i am concerned those designs has been since the original ps2 games Drakengard.
5. Yeah, i didn't enjoyesd the combat system, it took me a while to understand it. Since this was a japanese game from platinum games, i was expecting a combo system like bayonetta or revengeance. But no, you could just press the attac button and the attacks are comboed.
6.What the frigging hell are you talking about? it's not a copy paste, you play as an explorer non combat unit, so you hack insted of mashing your weapons. Also thats some frigging Top tier storytelling, they give you a broader and deeper pesrpective of the characters in a story, something really common in the psychological thriller horror films I really like a lot. The most mainstream examples are the "Trilogy of Error" from the simpsons and "run lola run"
7. At this point i'm just noticing you just don't like the game and its ok, not all games are for everybody, for example amongus and the 5 nights at freddys are really popular, i gave them a chance, but didin't feel the appeal so i just stopped playing them. As all RPG the quests help you understand better the world you're supposed to be inmersed in, see the struggles and needs from the people living in that kind of world.
8. Ok, people don't like to lose things, but i assure you there a re plenty of savepoints in the world. So just save often.
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