So according to TotalBiscuit...

[SenMithrarin85]

...no review copies. Anyone else worried that this is going to run like ♥♥♥♥/have issues a plenty on launch?

Plus, its getting released on a friday, so no support will be offered until early next week.

High specs and pre-order baiting...where have I seen that most recently? Oh yeah, Dishonored 2...Look how that turned out lol.

Its not a good sign that we'll get a good port. After all a 980 for a game that looks like that is rediculous.

[The Great Crashout 2025]

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[Antitype]

Цитата допису SenMithrarin85:

Guys this thread has nothing to do with TB's opinions whatsoever. I merely stated that he said no review code was given to ANYONE, not just him.

High specs (and a 980 is high for a game that targets 60 on a 750ti albeit with severe concessions) and a lack of any review code means one thing: it hasn't been tested.

Arkham Knight recommended a 980 and no review code was given. It was completely broken and still runs bad to this day (though its a massive improvement from launch)

Dishonored 2 recommends a 1060 (which afaik surpasses a 980) and had no review code. it was horrendous on launch and still runs bad to this day. You get the idea.

Doom is a very rare exception to this rule.

The 980 targets 1080p 60FPS that the PS4 Pro runs at. Its GPU is something between an RX470 and 480 and it often drops FPS in the 40ish range. So assuming it's decently optimized on PC it should manage locked 60FPS at 1080p.

Platinum generally do fine PC ports, which might be resolution locked, but they tend to run well.

[HeInZ]

most overrated game in xyears, just because of a android ass

[Ronin Gamer]

Цитата допису HeInZ:

most overrated game in xyears, just because of a android ass

Actually Most Platinum games tend to be smooth and fun combat games. They have a reputation of putting out some great ones. If it's not your jam that's fine, but don't knock something unless there's genuine fault.

[Speirs]

im not worried about the performance/gameplay its platinum afterall, they know how to make/port pc games but, im worried more for the lack of content this game is gonna offer for 60 euro. i think a 40 euro would be a better price

[mroczna_sarna]

TB is well known for his hatred of Japanese games. So I basically ignore everything what he has to say about the game. I enjoyed the game on PS4, and certainly I will on pc, as community and fans who are skilled modders is pretty strong. Preload almost done, thanks SE!

[MFromTheNorth]

Цитата допису Ronin Gamer:

Considering this thread was not made to talk about TB, and more the fact that review copies were not being given out before launch, it baffles me why the ♥♥♥♥ any of you care about the personal life and personal opinions of a man you go to see give you analysis on Video games and how they run.

Because its been decently established in the thread that people not getting review copies isn't a good sign.

No need to circlejerk to the obvious point.

And to be fair, TB has had a track record of being kind of a prick, before he got cancer. He was much better the past few years, especially when he closed his comment section because he knew he'd lash out at people there, whether the criticism was good or annoying. I find it extremely sad to see people harp on the guy, and I hope that he makes it for the sake of his wife and son.

That being said, people got sick of politics being spoken about in such a visceral manner in gaming in general, and the Co-Optional Crew continues to talk about it, on and off the show. Whether it was TB threatening to divorce his wife on Twitter for not voting Clinton, Jesse insulting Barron Trump for no good reason, or the crew in general talking about it on the podcast, at some point people have to be allowed to respond. Whether it be in disagreement with the politics or the precsence of it.

The fact remains that what people are saying about TB isn't new. When he did start branching out to more than just WoW Radio he'd act the same way to people over video games as he did over the 2016 election.

TB is a very pro-consumer person and I appreciate the hell out of him for that. He's done more in that respect for the industry than anyone I can name in his line of work, but if you're going to publically talk politics, people are going to respond.

[Rumen West]

Цитата допису mroczna_sarna:

TB is well known for his hatred of Japanese games.

What the ♥♥♥♥ are you talking about? He's a Platinum Games fanboy and I'm pretty sure they're Japanese.

[Dellicious]

Цитата допису HeInZ:

most overrated game in xyears, just because of a android ass

It's the finest android ass though.

[Bazzy]

Цитата допису mroczna_sarna:

TB is well known for his hatred of Japanese games. So I basically ignore everything what he has to say about the game. I enjoyed the game on PS4, and certainly I will on pc, as community and fans who are skilled modders is pretty strong. Preload almost done, thanks SE! :goldenstarsmile:

Yeah nice try kiddo, just one small detail PLATINUM is his fav dev and that was stated by him time and time again, so maybe next time you could do a bit of reasearch on your own, before spouting bs.

[mroczna_sarna]

Цитата допису John Snow:

Цитата допису mroczna_sarna:

TB is well known for his hatred of Japanese games. So I basically ignore everything what he has to say about the game. I enjoyed the game on PS4, and certainly I will on pc, as community and fans who are skilled modders is pretty strong. Preload almost done, thanks SE!

Yeah nice try kiddo, just one small detail PLATINUM is his fav dev and that was stated by him time and time again, so maybe next time you could do a bit of reasearch on your own, before spouting bs.

and Square Enix is one of his least fav publishers (probably next to Sega). I don't really care what TB says, because I do not agree in many cases with him. He is not a God of Gaming for me. I play games for my joy, to please myself. I do not play games only because some stranger with nice British accent say so. And I was thinking about jRPG's in general - he mentioned it many times in his podcasts. He hates them. And Nier have some jRPG's elements itself. He may like Platinum, but it's not typical Platinum game - it's already established title and sequel.

[Kade Storm]

Цитата допису Antitype:

Цитата допису SenMithrarin85:

Guys this thread has nothing to do with TB's opinions whatsoever. I merely stated that he said no review code was given to ANYONE, not just him.

High specs (and a 980 is high for a game that targets 60 on a 750ti albeit with severe concessions) and a lack of any review code means one thing: it hasn't been tested.

Arkham Knight recommended a 980 and no review code was given. It was completely broken and still runs bad to this day (though its a massive improvement from launch)

Dishonored 2 recommends a 1060 (which afaik surpasses a 980) and had no review code. it was horrendous on launch and still runs bad to this day. You get the idea.

Doom is a very rare exception to this rule.

The 980 targets 1080p 60FPS that the PS4 Pro runs at. Its GPU is something between an RX470 and 480 and it often drops FPS in the 40ish range. So assuming it's decently optimized on PC it should manage locked 60FPS at 1080p.

Platinum generally do fine PC ports, which might be resolution locked, but they tend to run well.

This is a reasonable estimation of where the PS4 Pro stands in terms of hardware potential and actual hardware output in game. Yes, coding to metal can yield some additional performance, but it doesn't magically turn blatantly weaker hardware into something that can compete against objectively faster hardware.

Also, the same broad approximate parity in performance and visual fidelity translated across console and equivalent PC hardware with Metal Gear Rising where older cards than what is recommended for the game, did fine.

People are getting far too worked up over the system requirements issue and missing the point on both sides of the divide, from those who are getting worked up about the specifications being too high (it is a demanding game, even on consoles) to those claiming that the GTX 770 is practically obsolete, despite the practical output of standard consoles falling well behind that card. Fact is that on the JermGaming channel, even a 2GB GTX 760 console competing project -- dubbed the Potato Masher -- is blatantly outdoing the standard PS4 and Xbone One with multiplatform titles going into its third year now. The PS4 Pro counterpart project with a GTX 1060 is doing the same. Yes, in terms of PC technology cycles, the GTX 770/680 are vintage items, but they're no slouches and those with such hardware should easily be approximately matching or exceeding the standard console experience.

[BadBlue]

Цитата допису Marco:

im not worried about the performance/gameplay its platinum afterall, they know how to make/port pc games but, im worried more for the lack of content this game is gonna offer for 60 euro. i think a 40 euro would be a better price

Not sure how you can worry about that. The game is already out on console, so we know exactly what type, and how much content we are getting. This is one of the good things about console/pc staggered releases. We can see whats on the table before we pre-order. Performance is literaly the only unknown at this point.

[Gtamatte]

Цитата допису mroczna_sarna:

Цитата допису John Snow:

Yeah nice try kiddo, just one small detail PLATINUM is his fav dev and that was stated by him time and time again, so maybe next time you could do a bit of reasearch on your own, before spouting bs.

and Square Enix is one of his least fav publishers (probably next to Sega). I don't really care what TB says, because I do not agree in many cases with him. He is not a God of Gaming for me. I play games for my joy, to please myself. I do not play games only because some stranger with nice British accent say so. And I was thinking about jRPG's in general - he mentioned it many times in his podcasts. He hates them. And Nier have some jRPG's elements itself. He may like Platinum, but it's not typical Platinum game - it's already established title and sequel.

Persona 4 Golden was his 2nd favorite game of 2012 though, I dont think he hates JRPGs.

[Ronin Gamer]

Цитата допису mroczna_sarna:

Цитата допису John Snow:

Yeah nice try kiddo, just one small detail PLATINUM is his fav dev and that was stated by him time and time again, so maybe next time you could do a bit of reasearch on your own, before spouting bs.

and Square Enix is one of his least fav publishers (probably next to Sega). I don't really care what TB says, because I do not agree in many cases with him. He is not a God of Gaming for me. I play games for my joy, to please myself. I do not play games only because some stranger with nice British accent say so. And I was thinking about jRPG's in general - he mentioned it many times in his podcasts. He hates them. And Nier have some jRPG's elements itself. He may like Platinum, but it's not typical Platinum game - it's already established title and sequel.

......he doesn't expect you to follow his word to the letter. You're SUPPOSED to view his critic and take in his opinion, along with OTHER PEOPLE'S assessments like he's said to do to be a better informed consumer, and then weigh that against your own opinions and what you want out of a game and make an educated decision based on all that.

You're never supposed to go to ONE person and take what they say as the only thing that matters. And he's never said to do that.

Where do people get these ideas? It's like they listen to specific things a person says and ignore the rest of it. o.o'