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Cypherous 2017 年 5 月 7 日 下午 6:22
Review, You wont want to read this :P
So, i played up until just after the little suicide pact to kill the big things after the first boss, so far i have a few opinions, you won't like them but i'm not worried by fanboy downvotes

Nier is overhyped, everyone knew that though, fanboys will love the game, most people will find it fairly generic

The first portion of the game up until defeating the first boss, i had to use my melee attack a massive 3 times, and those 3 swings were during the boss battle, for the first portion of the game i could have used electrical tape to hold down my L1 button and not had my experience diminished

Graphically speaking the game is ok i guess, as a PC gamer its hard to be "impressed" by graphical quality that you've seen in numerous places before, level design was pretty bland for the section i played but i apreciate that this is mostly a tutorial section, that being said its all you had to win me over and it didn't, and thats before you mention the horrid 30FPS during cutscenes, what is this, 2006?

Audio, the music, what little i've heard was fairly decent, noting stood out as bad and the sound effects seemed ok, someone actually put some work in to that so i'm impressed, the voice acting, well i get that they are robots but even for robots the acting was bland, i couldn't tell if it was just the voice actors being bored or not

Gameplay, having only experienced the first section of the game i can't comment on the rest, but it must have changed genre about 6 times, there was 3rd person, top down, sode scrolling shooter, vertical shooter, twin stick shooter and platformer that i counted, the constant changes between genres was jarring, on top of that it didn't really do any of them particularly well, it wasn't engaging and it makes it feel like nobody could settle on what this game was meant to be

All in all i would probably give this game a 5 out of 10, if you can pick it up for cheap during the christmas sale then its alright, but at £40 i expect a little more, although considering square-enixs love of mediocre games recently, i can't say i'm overly surprised

If you like constant transitions between genres and generic gameplay then you might enjoy this game, if you're expecting something more engaging then you probably should look elsewhere
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TomToLom 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:00 
引用自 Cypherous
i've yet to see anyone show me that the game changes this plan at all

I don't know why anyone would... You seem very antagonising and closed to the debate.

Have a nice day though ! :)
Cypherous 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:01 
引用自 Siroldas
Well, I've beaten the game once only as 2B, I will get the other 2 main ending later but here's my opinion about the first 30% of the game which is ending A.

Dissapointed that it's short, graphics look like ♥♥♥♥ from early PS3 games with horrible optimisation, dat draw distance man even wii games did a better job with draw distance than NieR.

I love the gameplay though and the OST is pretty darn good, also IDK about the story yet I really need to get further into the game to actully know if I like it or not. you sir should seriously never review games ever again cus I respect other people opinion and honestly even though platinum games are my favorite developrs I'm dissapointed with the game so far. You just seem to seek attention like others said cus come on man playing the game for like an hour only and you still want people to take your review seriously?

Seriously though how can you just play the game for like an hour and score it 5/10 lmao <--- IDC about scores at all but even I think that's pretty stupid mate.


Hardly, i've rated the game on my personal scale, nothing would ever get a 10 as it would always screw up somewhere, any reviewer who gives a game a 10/10 rating isn't doing their job properly as no game is perfect, as you openly admit you love the gameplay, which is fine, for YOU the game scores higher, for ME the game scores lower, i'm not going to tell you you're wrong for enjoying the game because thats your personal opinion and you are more than entitled to it, and i expect the same in return, but sadly, because i don't follow the masses and regard nier as some godly masterpiece i am "wrong" :P
Cypherous 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:03 
引用自 TomToLom
引用自 Cypherous
i've yet to see anyone show me that the game changes this plan at all

I don't know why anyone would... You seem very antagonising and closed to the debate.

Have a nice day though ! :)

If you have any evidence to prove that the game does indeed stop becoming a mish mash of genres during levels i am more than open to seeing it, just drop me a video demonstrating that the game decides on a genre and sticks to it with minimal deviation, I will be more than willing to include it in the OP
omnius42 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:06 
引用自 Cypherous

As i've said, unless the game later decides to bolt down to a single genre them my issues aren't solved by playing the game longer, adding more special moves doesn't change that the game has the unwillingness to conform to a single subtype

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A review is a review, its the opinions of a person backed up with facts, what you do with that information is up to you but nothing i have covered here is factually incorrect

If I'm not wrong, your problem with the gameplay is that it changes too much?
Well, I enjoyed the gameplay. I find it flexible, and more interesting than a "static" from start to end one. Let's put it in this way: you resolve different situations with different approaches.
But if you don't like it, well, your tastes, but as I said before you can't assume how the rest of the game will be after beating only the prologue.

And a review is a review, yeah, but yours can't be considererd a serious one. I understand more or less your point of view about the game, but you wrote it bad, you did assumptions for all the game just playing the prologue, and you use in a bad way the facts that backed up your opinions.
最后由 omnius42 编辑于; 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:07
Narukami Ogosho 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:13 
so what game you consider a 10/10 Cypherous ?
最后由 Narukami Ogosho 编辑于; 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:15
Siroldas 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:13 
Who the hell says this is a masterpiece other than fanboys?

Am just saying don't review a game after only playing it for under an hour cus you know that is just ahhh <--- you really should know this man I shouldn't say anything more

Gameplay is good there's some really nice movesets and different ways to play the game which is always a plus to

Graphics are terrible and I'm someone who cares more about gameplay than graphics but seriously the game shouldn't look this bad

Story so far is meh <--- can't say anything

Difficulties in this game, normal is so boring and easy you really can beat the whole game without dying once, but if you wanted to make the game a bit more challenging and put it on hard most of the time you're gonna die with one or two hits if you're lucky which is pretty stupid.

OST I really do love it, it suits the game really well and adds atmosphere to the game this is the only thing that I consider perfect in this game honestly

Even though I spent more time on this game than you I still can't really review it since I've only experienced like 30% of the game maybe, what I'm saying don't only finish like 2% of any game then write a review about it cus that is pretty stupid why is it so hard for you to understand this ...
Cypherous 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:14 
引用自 omnius42
引用自 Cypherous

As i've said, unless the game later decides to bolt down to a single genre them my issues aren't solved by playing the game longer, adding more special moves doesn't change that the game has the unwillingness to conform to a single subtype

[cut]

A review is a review, its the opinions of a person backed up with facts, what you do with that information is up to you but nothing i have covered here is factually incorrect

If I'm not wrong, your problem with the gameplay is that it changes too much?
Well, I enjoyed the gameplay. I find it flexible, and more interesting than a "static" from start to end one. Let's put it in this way: you resolve different situations with different approaches.
But if you don't like it, well, your tastes, but as I said before you can't assume how the rest of the game will be after beating only the prologue.

And a review is a review, yeah, but yours can't be considererd a serious one. I understand more or less your point of view about the game, but you wrote it bad, you did assumptions for all the game just playing the prologue, and you use in a bad way the facts that backed up your opinions.

The problem is that the game decides to constantly change its genre while not really providing that great of an experience, the twin stick sections are very basic, it doesn't "do" anything special, the sode scrolling shooting is the same, its a very basic very bland experience, it would be like playing fifa but every coupld of minutes you have to stop what you're doing to do a platforming "minigame" or it suddenly changes to a side scrolling perspective or it suddenly wants you to score goals while playing a bullethell game, it doesn't fit and just makes the experience feel bad

I've yet to see anyone prove that the gameplay changes in any meaningful way, if the game is still constantly changing "modes" for the rest of the game then i'm still going to have that complaint after 10 hours, after 30 hours, after 100 hours, adding special attacks or flashy combos won't change that the game cannot settle on what it wants to be, sure it will look pretty but at its core the gameplay is the same
Cypherous 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:14 
引用自 Velvet ♥
so how game you consider a 10/10 Cypherous ?

I wouldn't, a 10/10 is impossible, everything has its flaws
Minneyar 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:17 
引用自 Cypherous
Well if you have proof to show that i'm wrong by all means, in this case an opinion can't be wrong, i'm not telling you not to like the game, i'm just pointing out what the game does
If you came here looking for a discussion, you should have opened up with "Guys, I played through the prologue and didn't like it, am I missing something?" Instead you came here with "I've only played the very beginning but I'm going to assume I know everything there is to know about this game and I'm going to tell you it's bad."

So you see, we're not having a debate, I'm simply telling you that you're wrong. For example, the gameplay does have significant changes after a couple of the endings. The proof is the game itself, but you're too busy sticking your fingers in your ears and whining about how "but it's my opinion!" as though there is any reason for anybody to consider your opinion valid.
Doomerang 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:17 
I would try to convince you OP, but you are just pirate trash.
Cypherous 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:17 
引用自 Siroldas
Who the hell says this is a masterpiece other than fanboys?

Am just saying don't review a game after only playing it for under an hour cus you know that is just ahhh <--- you really should know this man I shouldn't say anything more

Gameplay is good there's some really nice movesets and different ways to play the game which is always a plus to

Graphics are terrible and I'm someone who cares more about gameplay than graphics but seriously the game shouldn't look this bad

Story so far is meh <--- can't say anything

Difficulties in this game, normal is so boring and easy you really can beat the whole game without dying once, but if you wanted to make the game a bit more challenging and put it on hard most of the time you're gonna die with one or two hits if you're lucky which is pretty stupid.

OST I really do love it, it suits the game really well and adds atmosphere to the game this is the only thing that I consider perfect in this game honestly

Even though I spent more time on this game than you I still can't really review it since I've only experienced like 30% of the game maybe, what I'm saying don't only finish like 2% of any game then write a review about it cus that is pretty stupid why is it so hard for you to understand this ...

And as i've said i'm basing it on facts, i've never said the story was bad, i never actually rated the story itself at all because i haven't experienced it, the core gameplay however is a different matter, the way you will be playing the bulk of the game won't change, yes you'll gain more combos for a melee system or pretty finishing moves, this does not change that the game will still constantly switch between genres, this is the part people are missing
Cypherous 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:18 
引用自 Minneyar
引用自 Cypherous
Well if you have proof to show that i'm wrong by all means, in this case an opinion can't be wrong, i'm not telling you not to like the game, i'm just pointing out what the game does
If you came here looking for a discussion, you should have opened up with "Guys, I played through the prologue and didn't like it, am I missing something?" Instead you came here with "I've only played the very beginning but I'm going to assume I know everything there is to know about this game and I'm going to tell you it's bad."

So you see, we're not having a debate, I'm simply telling you that you're wrong. For example, the gameplay does have significant changes after a couple of the endings. The proof is the game itself, but you're too busy sticking your fingers in your ears and whining about how "but it's my opinion!" as though there is any reason for anybody to consider your opinion valid.

i assumed everything i needed to know about the core gameplay, do you have any evidence to prove that the core game mechanics change in any meaningful way?
Cypherous 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:20 
引用自 FireBrand
I would try to convince you OP, but you are just pirate trash.

You do realise that resulting to insults does make it look like you've run out of things to say and are conceding, i'm open to actual evidence that proves with facts that it changes in a meaningful way, adding particle effects and a slightly different swing or shooting direction doesn't count as a meaningful improvement its just fluff
TomToLom 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:21 
引用自 Cypherous
引用自 TomToLom

I don't know why anyone would... You seem very antagonising and closed to the debate.

Have a nice day though ! :)

If you have any evidence to prove that the game does indeed stop becoming a mish mash of genres during levels i am more than open to seeing it, just drop me a video demonstrating that the game decides on a genre and sticks to it with minimal deviation, I will be more than willing to include it in the OP

Well since you didn't provide a video yourself, neither will I (plus I got other things to do :P)

What I can tell you is the game is mainly (80 - 90%) a Hack and Slash in an open world (implying main and sub quests), a very satisfying one, different weapons with various effects, a good variety of moves and combo (especially with dual wielding characters), finally the chips let you customize your play style even more (you can't mess with them in the prologue though).

Of course it takes some investment and curiosity to explore the different possibilities and you can only really do so later in the game, the prologue does not represent the whole game.

Now consider that however you want, this is a very good game when you appropriate it for yourself, otherwise you can still equip the auto chips (which will handle the fights and healing) and enjoy to only explore and follow the story.

If as I suspect my word is meaningless to you (since you asked for a video XD) well I guess I just lost a little time and won't be caught doing so again...
最后由 TomToLom 编辑于; 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:25
Seamus 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:26 
Wow, what a stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ attempt at a review.

People like you are why God Hand got a 3/10 from IGN. Try actually playing the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game before you try to "review" it.
最后由 Seamus 编辑于; 2017 年 5 月 8 日 上午 8:27
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