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af May 24, 2017 @ 7:27am
[Spoilers] The True Purpose of Project YoRHa
This is a thread to try and clarify the specific role of Project YoRHa in perpetrating the conspiracy in NieR:Automata. Although documents in the game claimed the destruction of the organization was used to complete the falsification that humanity resided on the moon, members of the community constantly had questions as to exactly how YoRHa contributed to this illusion. By examining in game and external sources such as concert scripts, the following document provides an argument for what YoRHa’s actual role in the conspiracy was.

For people who are not avid readers, a shortened explanation is provided below. However, it is highly suggested to read the document. Please be aware that if there are any questions you have about this explanation, to read the document attached to this thread. For the full explanation on YoRHa’s role in NieR:Automata, please refer to the following document. The document may be long, but the length of the explanation was required for the highest level of accuracy possible to provide clarity and determine the best conclusions.

The tl;dr explanation

Project YoRHa was a means for Command, the top echelons of the android forces, to control resource allocation for the war effort to prevent victory. By having everyone invest heavily in YoRHa and constantly destroying the elite military organization, YoRHa would be a resource vacuum. The potential of the android forces was repeatedly decreased as the investments were wasted right when YoRHa was about to win against the machines. This way, the war would continue forever through a cycle of remanufacturing the YoRHa units and preventing victory.

Eventually, even if the androids on Earth decided to fight the machines, it would be too late. Since they let YoRHa do most of the work, androids were never truly adjusted against the machines that evolved rapidly due to YoRHa’s engagements. If androids ever did go against such overpowered machines, they would be instantly obliterated. However, they would have died what they believed is an honorable death as martyrs for the glory of mankind. They would have died with purpose just as Command intended them to, even if it was based on a lie.

PDF: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aphfdx6bsdqxlfa/TheTruePurposeofProjectYoRHa.pdf?dl=00

Any constructive thoughts and comments are greatly appreciated.
Link has been updated to include a table of contents to make navigation easier in the document.

Special Thanks

This project was coordinated between members of the Steam Community in the NieR:Automata discussion boards. I would like to express my gratitude to the members who participated in the discussion thread, “[Spoilers] The Girls of The Tower - The Unexplained Story of NieR:Automata.” I would like to extend a special thanks to Steam display names Aemony and Raith for their remarkable insight to contribute to this project.
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Aemony May 24, 2017 @ 8:20am 
Going to read through it as soon as I can!
medavroog May 24, 2017 @ 9:21am 
The "True Ending" disagreed with this claim.
Aemony May 24, 2017 @ 10:03am 
I haven't gone through the whole document, probably need to do it once or twice. And I also need to go through some of the stuff on https://www.reddit.com/r/nier/wiki/lore again to refresh my memory in relation to this paper.

Originally posted by medavroog:
The "True Ending" disagreed with this claim.

How so?
medavroog May 24, 2017 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:

Originally posted by medavroog:
The "True Ending" disagreed with this claim.

How so?

Shall you have read and studied the True Ending dialogues between the pods, you will not be asking this question ... it is obvious.
Aemony May 24, 2017 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by medavroog:
Originally posted by Aemony:



How so?

Shall you have read and studied the True Ending dialogues between the pods, you will not be asking this question ... it is obvious.

I'm asking you because I do not know what you're saying is wrong here exactly.

I know of the canon ending E, I also know of the canon concert ending that occurs post-ending E. And nothing in both of those really disregards most of what this goes through. That's why I'm asking you, since you make the statement and as such must elaborate on what you mean.
af May 24, 2017 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:
Originally posted by medavroog:

Shall you have read and studied the True Ending dialogues between the pods, you will not be asking this question ... it is obvious.

I'm asking you because I do not know what you're saying is wrong here exactly.

I know of the canon ending E, I also know of the canon concert ending that occurs post-ending E. And nothing in both of those really disregards most of what this goes through. That's why I'm asking you, since you make the statement and as such must elaborate on what you mean.

I agree. Unless there is an explanation, it is hard to determine if the document was let alone read to begin with.
medavroog May 24, 2017 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:
Originally posted by medavroog:

Shall you have read and studied the True Ending dialogues between the pods, you will not be asking this question ... it is obvious.

I'm asking you because I do not know what you're saying is wrong here exactly.

I know of the canon ending E, I also know of the canon concert ending that occurs post-ending E. And nothing in both of those really disregards most of what this goes through. That's why I'm asking you, since you make the statement and as such must elaborate on what you mean.

YoRHa is just an expriement project initiated by God ... as per the pods conversation as well as 2B's line at the start of the game when she stated wanting to kill God. There was never a humanity, just an expriement which the pods fail to complete.

Also, not to forget 2B stated it was God who created the androids in the start of game ... and in the circle, after she re-activated with her full memories after True Ending, this debunks the "androids are created by humans" claims. ... another proof humanity never existed, and is just a lie created/programmed into the data.
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af May 24, 2017 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by medavroog:
Originally posted by Aemony:

I'm asking you because I do not know what you're saying is wrong here exactly.

I know of the canon ending E, I also know of the canon concert ending that occurs post-ending E. And nothing in both of those really disregards most of what this goes through. That's why I'm asking you, since you make the statement and as such must elaborate on what you mean.

YoRHa is just an expriement project initiated by God ... as per the pods conversation as well as 2B's line at the start of the game when she stated wanting to kill God. There was never a humanity, just an expriement which the pods fail to complete.

Also, not to forget 2B stated it was God who created the androids in the start of game ... and in the circle, after she re-activated with her full memories after True Ending, this debunks the "androids are created by humans" claims. ... another proof humanity never existed, and is just a lie created/programmed into the data.

Who is "God"?
Aemony May 24, 2017 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by medavroog:
Originally posted by Aemony:

I'm asking you because I do not know what you're saying is wrong here exactly.

I know of the canon ending E, I also know of the canon concert ending that occurs post-ending E. And nothing in both of those really disregards most of what this goes through. That's why I'm asking you, since you make the statement and as such must elaborate on what you mean.

YoRHa is just an expriement project initiated by God ... as per the pods conversation as well as 2B's line at the start of the game when she stated wanting to kill God. There was never a humanity, just an expriement which the pods fail to complete.

Also, not to forget 2B stated it was God who created the androids in the start of game ... and in the circle, after she re-activated with her full memories after True Ending, this debunks the "androids are created by humans" claims. ... another proof humanity never existed, and is just a lie created/programmed into the data.

So you basically didn't read it? Because nowhere in it does it state that YoRHa units were created by humans.
medavroog May 24, 2017 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by AF:
Originally posted by medavroog:

YoRHa is just an expriement project initiated by God ... as per the pods conversation as well as 2B's line at the start of the game when she stated wanting to kill God. There was never a humanity, just an expriement which the pods fail to complete.

Also, not to forget 2B stated it was God who created the androids in the start of game ... and in the circle, after she re-activated with her full memories after True Ending, this debunks the "androids are created by humans" claims. ... another proof humanity never existed, and is just a lie created/programmed into the data.

Who is "God"?

That is the question. God created the androids, but made androids believe humans created the androids ... in fact, we can argue the entire history is a lie and invented by God. We can also conclude that, God not only created the androids, but also created the machine lifeforms as well as everything encountered.

Why God lied about the facts? What is Project YorHa testing for? Who is God? ... I hope these will be explained in DLC or the next game.
Aemony May 24, 2017 @ 1:43pm 
Also, 2B isn't a regular android. She's a YoRHa android.

I mean, you're not even on the same wave length as us here.
Aemony May 24, 2017 @ 1:45pm 
Originally posted by medavroog:
Originally posted by AF:

Who is "God"?

That is the question. God created the androids, but made androids believe humans created the androids ... in fact, we can argue the entire history is a lie and invented by God. We can also conclude that, God not only created the androids, but also created the machine lifeforms as well as everything encountered.

Why God lied about the facts? What is Project YorHa testing for? Who is God? ... I hope these will be explained in DLC or the next game.

They have already been explained though...

You're missing the whole centerpiece of the discussion that there's a difference between regular androids and YoRHa androids.

Also, we know who "God" is already, though certain parts of that theory have glaring unexplained holes.
medavroog May 24, 2017 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:
Originally posted by medavroog:

YoRHa is just an expriement project initiated by God ... as per the pods conversation as well as 2B's line at the start of the game when she stated wanting to kill God. There was never a humanity, just an expriement which the pods fail to complete.

Also, not to forget 2B stated it was God who created the androids in the start of game ... and in the circle, after she re-activated with her full memories after True Ending, this debunks the "androids are created by humans" claims. ... another proof humanity never existed, and is just a lie created/programmed into the data.

So you basically didn't read it? Because nowhere in it does it state that YoRHa units were created by humans.

It is you who didn't read me. I said God created the ANDROIDS, NOT YoRHa. ... and in the game storyline, YoRHa lied about their existence by claiming "humans created YoRHa" until players are introduced to 9S on that part - which I wish not to spoilers again.

So, "nowhere in it does it state YoRHa units were created by humans" ... pal, you are not stating what the game storyline states - at least, NOT the "lie" YoRHa tells openly.
af May 24, 2017 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by medavroog:
So, "nowhere in it does it state YoRHa units were created by humans" ... pal, you are not stating what the game storyline states - at least, NOT the "lie" YoRHa tells openly.

...but that wasn't the point of this thread at all.
medavroog May 24, 2017 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:

Also, we know who "God" is already, though certain parts of that theory have glaring unexplained holes.

We don't, your guess and "theory" remains as guess ... the real God is still not really know until the devs reveal to us officially.
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