NieR:Automata™

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CloakerJones May 19, 2017 @ 5:29pm
(SPOILERS) Why does everybody like 2B so much? (SOLVED :D) (i'm sorry)
Asside (get it?)from the obvious reason everybody likes her. I felt like she did absolutely ♥♥♥♥-all throughout the whole story apart from a few things here and there.

Main character? oh please, 9s was pretty much the main character throughout the entire game. I just could not for the life of me understand how everybody has such a massive hard on for her when she has the personality of a brick and barely (if ever) shows any emotion.

I know she's a combat model so "emotions are prohibited and what-not" but when you have a side character like 9S who is in my honest opinion, so much more interesting than our DEFINITIVE MAIN CHARACTER, It makes me wonder why 2B even exists at all. I mean come on, when A2, a character who is ABSENT FROM 50% IF NOT 70% OF THE ENTIRE GAME, is more interesting during the first few minutes shes on screen than 2B is throughout the entire damn story, you know something isn't right.

TO BE FAIR, i didn't do many sidequests throughout the story. So maybe those are where her "inner-sweetheart" really shines. BUT REGARDLESS, i shouldn't have to play sidequests in order to fall in love with the main character. THAT'S WHAT THE MAIN STORY IS FOR.

I just can't bring myself to care about 2B at all. Whenever something happened to her in the story, the only reason i felt bad was because 9S was there to witness it half the time. Poor kid goes through so much♥♥♥♥♥♥it's not even funny.



alright rant over. please feel free to explain to me your thoughts and or views.


or you know, call me a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ for not caring about 2B idk:steamsalty:
Last edited by CloakerJones; May 19, 2017 @ 7:26pm
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Edutaker May 19, 2017 @ 5:34pm 
i think it is because the same thing you hate her idk i like her for her but-t and somethings more
Josephus May 19, 2017 @ 5:38pm 
I'm not super far into the game yet, but I feel you. Based on what I've seen so far, 9S dominates all conversation and actually has personality.
Aemony May 19, 2017 @ 5:57pm 
You mean you missed the whole point of 2B and her "emotions are prohibited" mantra?

People like her for a couple of reasons:
- Her butt (like, seriously, have you looked at the artwork for this game?)
- Her tormented existence
- Her personality that she does whatever she can to kill as much as possible
- Her very reason for existing
- etc etc etc

The S series of models (like 9S) is helluva smart and is therefor more expressive than most other androids. And A2 have abandoned the YoRHa project after she realized the lies that it stood for. Both of them can be more expressive than 2B, and that's why they are.
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MechaSalvo May 19, 2017 @ 5:58pm 
SPOILERS

9S is not more protagonist than the 2 heroines imo. By the very end he still had to save by 2B through 2A, he was the victim and a man in distress. All protagonists contributed to game in different ways imo.

9S's story was more cinematic the the rest of the protagonists sure, but the fact that 2B's character was still developing even after death , was very cool imo.The more 9S talk to 2B she was more and more emotional towards 9S. The final revelation about 2B being 2E made everything to make sense to me. You can see that 2B was in pain when she talked to 9S in route A/B. And it made her emotions to 9S to feel more real.

And yes sidequest help even more. Its different kind of story telling that can only be told in a video game. And that's why I like this game so much.
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CloakerJones May 19, 2017 @ 6:01pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:
You mean you missed the whole point of 2B and her "emotions are prohibited" mantra?

People like her for a couple of reasons:
- Her butt (like, seriously, have you looked at the artwork for this game?)
- Her tormented existence
- Her personality that she does whatever she can to kill as much as possible
- Her very reason for existing
- etc etc etc

The S series of models (like 9S) is helluva smart and is therefor more expressive than most other androids. And A2 have abandoned the YoRHa project after she realized the lies that it stood for. Both of them can be more expressive than 2B, and that's why they are.


I'm fully aware of it. i even stated it in what i wrote... but for me... it just doesn't do it. maybe if they showed her tormented side more often then i would reconsider but since it's only shown in a few key points its hard for me to care.
Aemony May 19, 2017 @ 6:01pm 
Originally posted by Polaris:
You can see that 2B was in pain when she talked to 9S in route A/B.

Replaying route A is great for all the foreshadowing that's going on. Directly after the prologue mission you can see 2B clench her fist in anger when she learns that 9S uploaded her memory while his own was reset once more.

Friggin hell, 2B's whole story makes me sad just thinking about.
Hued May 19, 2017 @ 6:03pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:
Originally posted by Polaris:
You can see that 2B was in pain when she talked to 9S in route A/B.

Replaying route A is great for all the foreshadowing that's going on. Directly after the prologue mission you can see 2B clench her fist in anger when she learns that 9S uploaded her memory while his own was reset once more.

Friggin hell, 2B's whole story makes me sad just thinking about.
Yep, add in the initial lines she mentions at the start of the game and it compounds her frustration with the 9S loop even more so.
Aemony May 19, 2017 @ 6:04pm 
Originally posted by Hell-jumperJones:
I'm fully aware of it. i even stated it in what i wrote... but for me... it just doesn't do it. maybe if they showed her tormented side more often then i would reconsider but since it's only shown in a few key points its hard for me to care.

But how much is enough? The whole game is riddled with 2B showing partially concealed torment all over the place.
CloakerJones May 19, 2017 @ 6:04pm 
keep the reasons coming. I'm not at all against liking 2B. I just need a reason that isnt butt.
CloakerJones May 19, 2017 @ 6:07pm 
mmmmm, maybe i let my mind get clouded by how much she didn't talk. It just rubbed me the wrong way not hearing her speak more than 6 times a chapter. ( i'm exagerating )
CloakerJones May 19, 2017 @ 6:10pm 
Actually if you guys could explain the whole 2E thing to me i would appreciate it. I know it was explained in that book A2 picked up in the library but like the second after she picked it up she got attacked so i completely forgot about it. What exactly was that about.
Aemony May 19, 2017 @ 6:19pm 
Originally posted by Hell-jumperJones:
Actually if you guys could explain the whole 2E thing to me i would appreciate it. I know it was explained in that book A2 picked up in the library but like the second after she picked it up she got attacked so i completely forgot about it. What exactly was that about.

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A2 was used as a model to create the E model. The E model were an Executioner class of YoRHa androids designed to execute other YoRHa androids that learned the truth of the YoRHa project. They were also used to protect the Council of Humanity on the moon.

The E models were given different designations as a cover so that their targets (usually one of the S models) wouldn't know what to expect and would treat them as regular YoRHa androids. In 2E's particular case she got the 2B designation as her cover.

Her mission? Kill the flying ♥♥♥♥ out of 9S whenever he got too close to learning the truth of the YoRHa project.

Her torment? The poor gal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ loves 9S, and have been forced to kill him over and over and over and over and over again since that's her job. Worst part is that she remembers most of the times while 9S doesn't remember a thing. They're both trapped in a never ending circle of death and resurrection.

That's also why one of 2B's swords are actually 9S in sword form (don't ask me how that works) where that instance of 9S is happy as he can be close to her without causing her suffering.
af May 19, 2017 @ 6:22pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:
Originally posted by Hell-jumperJones:
I'm fully aware of it. i even stated it in what i wrote... but for me... it just doesn't do it. maybe if they showed her tormented side more often then i would reconsider but since it's only shown in a few key points its hard for me to care.

But how much is enough? The whole game is riddled with 2B showing partially concealed torment all over the place.

Despite the theme, the ban on emotions, all of it, I also still felt 2B was a typical, edgy character of sorts. But unlike other characters I've seen, she had a sense of innocence to her that made her somewhat interesting. So I stuck around.

It all changed after the bunker's destruction. When her eyes lit up red which indicated her final moments, that was painful to watch. Although she doesn't seem as dynamic as 9S who spiralled into madness, she is still a character I like nonetheless. Because despite being thrown around as a pawn and becoming victim to everything, she still fought until the end. The true sign of a warrior.
Aemony May 19, 2017 @ 6:26pm 
I loved A2 the most personally, but that's because her banter with the pod got me every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ time.
CloakerJones May 19, 2017 @ 6:28pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:
Originally posted by Hell-jumperJones:
Actually if you guys could explain the whole 2E thing to me i would appreciate it. I know it was explained in that book A2 picked up in the library but like the second after she picked it up she got attacked so i completely forgot about it. What exactly was that about.

.............................................



A2 was used as a model to create the E model. The E model were an Executioner class of YoRHa androids designed to execute other YoRHa androids that learned the truth of the YoRHa project. They were also used to protect the Council of Humanity on the moon.

The E models were given different designations as a cover so that their targets (usually one of the S models) wouldn't know what to expect and would treat them as regular YoRHa androids. In 2E's particular case she got the 2B designation as her cover.

Her mission? Kill the flying ♥♥♥♥ out of 9S whenever he got too close to learning the truth of the YoRHa project.

Her torment? The poor gal ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ loves 9S, and have been forced to kill him over and over and over and over and over again since that's her job. Worst part is that she remembers most of the times while 9S doesn't remember a thing. They're both trapped in a never ending circle of death and resurrection.

That's also why one of 2B's swords are actually 9S in sword form (don't ask me how that works) where that instance of 9S is happy as he can be close to her without causing her suffering.


So does this mean that 2B had killed 9S other times that weren't shown in game? because that is the vibe you're giving me. and also, if that is the case, now i actually feel bad for her.


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