Is this game a little bit to easy?

[PieterPatrick]

As a new player, I like to play this game a little bit realistic.
Enough settings to disable, so far no problem.

But somebody gave the next good tip:
Play with a backpack, a animal will see you a lot faster in the real world than in game.

So now the question to you:
- Is this game a little bit to easy?
- Do you play with a backpack to make it a bit more reastic?

[Uneazy]

the end game of this is farming diamonds and great ones which vary difficulty by map. It's easy to run into groups of low risk low reward animals by just running around any map from water zone to zone, Unless you're playing on a map with big open areas like the africa one you're rarely going to run and gun and get a diamond that hasn't already run 200-300m away facing away from you so it's almost impossible to get a good shot.

Identifying need zones for animals you're hunting and setting up during times they'll come around is pretty much the strategy. I'd say it's a decent balance between realism and actually having something to do instead of AFK or crawling to animals that might be wandering for 30 minutes per kill.

[dbond1]

Yes, it's too easy. But that's part of this game's appeal for me. Higher pace, more shooting, more harvesting. I also play Way of the Hunter which gives me a more authentic hunting experience.

I took a male lion with a bow last night in WOTH and stalked it for probably 45 minutes, and the lion barely moved. I never need to be so careful in Call of the Wild. Just the way it is and I like and play them both.

I say that WOTH is a better hunting sim, but COTW is a better game. If you want more challenge with your hunting check out WOTH.

I don't use a backpack nor do anything else to make it more difficult to answer the OP.

[PieterPatrick]

Originally posted by dbond1:

Yes, it's too easy. But that's part of this game's appeal for me. Higher pace, more shooting, more harvesting. I also play Way of the Hunter which gives me a more authentic hunting experience.

I took a male lion with a bow last night in WOTH and stalked it for probably 45 minutes, and the lion barely moved. I never need to be so careful in Call of the Wild. Just the way it is and I like and play them both.

I say that WOTH is a better hunting sim, but COTW is a better game. If you want more challenge with your hunting check out WOTH.

I don't use a backpack nor do anything else to make it more difficult to answer the OP.

Just tried WOTH...
Hiding in a bush...
The bush doesn't react and doesn't make much sound.
Small things like that can be important to me.
I still going to try WOTH, of course.
But that was a bit disappointing and a lot better in COTW.

And I'm not sure I'm going to like the story of WOTH, but that less important.

[dbond1]

Go with the one with better bush acoustics I guess?

I get what you're saying, but for me I think the bushes in COTW sound like I've got a mess of 20 foot long nylon straps trailing behind me.

The stories are terrible in both, but no, I cannot defend WOTH here.

[PieterPatrick]

Originally posted by dbond1:

Go with the one with better bush acoustics I guess?

I get what you're saying, but for me I think the bushes in COTW sound like I've got a mess of 20 foot long nylon straps trailing behind me.

The stories are terrible in both, but no, I cannot defend WOTH here.

Time will tell, I'll try both, but I want to like WOTH.
The life cycle of the animals and better rendering distance is helping a lot.

Funny how you feel totally different about the bushes in COTW.

And I think it's better not to start about Hunter the Classic.

[dbond1]

To be fair the thing I'm talking about isn't a problem on every reserve, but some, like Hirschfelden and Medved for example, suffer from this.

Where COTW is probably better is simulating the sound signature in different terrain, as there's no visual indication in WOTH that anything changes when moving through vegetation. COTW has the meter, WOTH has none, and no sounds play so yeah, I don't think it's even simulated there.

What I don't like in COTW is how it's actually implemented. Like I said on some maps it sounds like I am trailing straps that are getting caught on everything and the detection boxes seem off, like I can think I'm 10 feet beyond the bush but it's still making bush noises.

I see the realism angle, but yeah, I don't really care about this and prefer the phantom stealth bushes in WOTH on balance. Nothing to annoy me wins in the end.

But when I suggested you try it it was not with bush sounds in mind. It was to give you a more challenging hunting game, or see what you think anyway. It's just easier to hunt in Call of the Wild, which I actually prefer in some ways. It's easier to find game, and easier to get in position to shoot. It's certainly easier to track. And sometimes I prefer this. I swap back and forth. I like both games for different reasons, but if the challenge of the hunt is what you want I think it has to be Way of the Hunter.

[ULTRA]

The animals may be dumb but it's only to balance how pathetic your guy is. Guns that only shoot 300 m (barely), he's literally unable to run faster than ~3 km/h, he doesn't know how to adjust his sights or use a choke, he can't see animals farther than 450 m away, he doesn't know how to use camouflage and he has to kill like 300 animals before figuring out how to use a horn, he HAS to kill in order to sleep long term, he can't hold his breath for longer than 10 seconds or so.

I don't play with a backpack because then I could hold an entire arsenal on my body

[PieterPatrick]

Originally posted by dbond1:

To be fair the thing I'm talking about isn't a problem on every reserve, but some, like Hirschfelden and Medved for example, suffer from this.

I only played COTW in Africa.
I'm going to play WOTH for a while...
And maybe in the end I'll agree with you; both games need to be played. :-)

[PieterPatrick]

Originally posted by ULTRA:

The animals may be dumb but it's only to balance how pathetic your guy is. Guns that only shoot 300 m (barely), he's literally unable to run faster than ~3 km/h, he doesn't know how to adjust his sights or use a choke, he can't see animals farther than 450 m away, he doesn't know how to use camouflage and he has to kill like 300 animals before figuring out how to use a horn, he HAS to kill in order to sleep long term, he can't hold his breath for longer than 10 seconds or so.

I don't play with a backpack because then I could hold an entire arsenal on my body

The rendering distance of the animals is a imporant thing for me, I agree.

Being able to wear a entire arsenal will never bother me if it will spook animals in a more realistic way.

Most people say that WOTH is a lot better than COTW in realism.
But my first conclusion is: it's not that simple...

[Aerond]

No, it's not realistic. You can bring a tent in your pocket and you don't even bring a bag.

[PieterPatrick]

Originally posted by Aerond:

No, it's not realistic. You can bring a tent in your pocket and you don't even bring a bag.

I only care about how realistic the hunting is.
How much you can carry doesn't matter to me.

[thelamaknows]

The maps are dedicated hunting preserves, so the abundance of game is a bit more justified. I only wish public hunting land was nearly so bountiful in real life. You can spend years hunting moose in New England and never shoot one, but in COTW you can't walk more than 50 feet without spooking one. So yes, in that regard COTW is pretty easy.

Animals also calm down and return to an area rather quickly compared to real life. Again, this is fine because COTW is a game at the end of the day. COTW dispenses with bag limits as well, meaning you can unrealistically gun down an entire heard of deer like it's the Valentine's Day Massacre starring Bambi's mom.

As a real life hunter I get more out of hunting than just the hunt- things you can't get from sitting in a chair in front of a computer monitor. So COTW's easier rewards sort of makes up for the lack of tangible outdoors experience.
In real life I have spent all day wandering the wilds and never even got to take a shot. I accept that as part of RL hunting. Just like having to drive hours each way to even get to a hunting location.
I wouldn't find that compelling for long in a video game. In my opinion COTW strikes a good balance of realism and gamey-ness.

[PieterPatrick]

Originally posted by thelamaknows:

The maps are dedicated hunting preserves, so the abundance of game is a bit more justified. I only wish public hunting land was nearly so bountiful in real life. You can spend years hunting moose in New England and never shoot one, but in COTW you can't walk more than 50 feet without spooking one. So yes, in that regard COTW is pretty easy.

Animals also calm down and return to an area rather quickly compared to real life. Again, this is fine because COTW is a game at the end of the day. COTW dispenses with bag limits as well, meaning you can unrealistically gun down an entire heard of deer like it's the Valentine's Day Massacre starring Bambi's mom.

As a real life hunter I get more out of hunting than just the hunt- things you can't get from sitting in a chair in front of a computer monitor. So COTW's easier rewards sort of makes up for the lack of tangible outdoors experience.
In real life I have spent all day wandering the wilds and never even got to take a shot. I accept that as part of RL hunting. Just like having to drive hours each way to even get to a hunting location.
I wouldn't find that compelling for long in a video game. In my opinion COTW strikes a good balance of realism and gamey-ness.

I totally get what your saying.
And just walking outside in nature is great, but I will never hunt.
It doesn't bother me if it gets a bit to realistic.
Immersion is all that matters to me.
And as long as nothing annoys me, I can pretent I'm hunting.

But now the question:
Do you think it is a good idea to play with a backpack?
You're the best person to answer.

A backpack makes you a bit more visible.
Animals will spook faster, that is more realistic.

[BAG-One]

Originally posted by Uneazy:

the end game of this is farming diamonds and great ones.

This may be the case for you, but not for me.
There is no "end game" for me as I just enjoy going for a hunt. If I bag a diamond or great one that's a bonus, but simply going for a hunt, finding a good sized animal, spending time stalking and hopefully getting off a good shot gets the heart rate up and makes for an enjoyable hour or so occasionally.

[pizza7]

Originally posted by PieterPatrick:

Originally posted by dbond1:

To be fair the thing I'm talking about isn't a problem on every reserve, but some, like Hirschfelden and Medved for example, suffer from this.

I only played COTW in Africa.
I'm going to play WOTH for a while...
And maybe in the end I'll agree with you; both games need to be played. :-)

ohh, you really should try the original maps, these are still the best.