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TheProf May 1, 2024 @ 12:39am
Help traders funds setting
I posted in general, but I realize I should have posted here so I copy and paste. Sorry for double posting, I hope is not against rules.

I'm an old nerd, newbie server adminof a small server where I enjoy with my other old nerd friends. Sorry to bother with a probably stupid question.
I search forums and internet before asking here.
My problem: traders seem like to have limited funds, something like a cap. I know after wipe they started from 0 and they regenerate over time their funds. I also guess that the line ""trader-funds-change-rate-per-hour-multiplier" : "1.0" in economyoverride should define at which speed they regenerate (correct?). That said, since yesterday all traders on my server no longer increase their funds despite no players trade with them. Every trader in a given outpost has the same amount of money, but in different outposts, that amount is different (some has 12,440, some 10,023 and similar).
I have played in servers where traders funds also reached something like 100k. I dont know if there were unlimited fund active.
So:
1) is there a setting somewhere (I did not find it) to set the max funds for traders or they are intended to continuosly grow over time if nobody trades?
2) what could be wrong in my settings to let funds not increase over a given value (different for each outpost)?
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Originally posted by xKiCkx:
Originally posted by TheProf:
Originally posted by xKiCkx:
Even tho answered, update for the question for unlimited funds, this is the setting in the economy.json that affects that:
"traders-unlimited-funds": "1",
Tks to dev too, but the question was not how to set unlimited funds.
The main question was why traders funds appers to be capped and does not increase as they should do.
Setting to unlimited bypas the problem, but it is still there

That depends on the prosperity level of traders. Over time as you trade in outposts with each trader, they will be able to hold more funds, the upper limit for that is 100k.
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TheProf May 1, 2024 @ 12:33am 
Help for Traders funds settings
I'm an old nerd, newbie server adminof a small server where I enjoy with my other old nerd friends. Sorry to bother with a probably stupid question.
I search forums and internet before asking here.
My problem: traders seem like to have limited funds, something like a cap. I know after wipe they started from 0 and they regenerate over time their funds. I also guess that the line ""trader-funds-change-rate-per-hour-multiplier" : "1.0" in economyoverride should define at which speed they regenerate (correct?). That said, since yesterday all traders on my server no longer increase their funds despite no players trade with them. Every trader in a given outpost has the same amount of money, but in different outposts, that amount is different (some has 12,440, some 10,023 and similar).
I have played in servers where traders funds also reached something like 100k. I dont know if there were unlimited fund active.
So:
1) is there a setting somewhere (I did not find it) to set the max funds for traders or they are intended to continuosly grow over time if nobody trades?
2) what could be wrong in my settings to let funds not increase over a given value (different for each outpost)?

Edit: since this morning at 8 a.m. every traders has:
in C2 all 11'142 cash
in B4 12'440 cash
in Z3 12'548 cash
in A0 10'023 cash
Last edited by TheProf; May 1, 2024 @ 6:30am
TheProf May 1, 2024 @ 1:22am 
Since I'm browsing discussion, here another couple of questions:
1) economy-reset-time-hours: I found on GGhost the following ""economy-reset-time-hours" : Although traders slowly and organically regenerate stock and money, if this value is set (in hours, i.e. 2.0 is 2 hours), the economy will instantly reset at the given interval, fully restocking traders' inventory and money." and on ping perfect the following " How many real-life hours it takes for the trader to reset their funds to 0 & any stocked items to their set default values". Funds reset to a given predetermined value (their max funds if any) or to 0?
2) trader-funds-change-rate-per-hour-multiplier: on GGhost I read "this setting defines how fast traders refill their available funds organically. The default is 1.0, meaning a trader with depleted funds will have his balance completely refilled in 1 hour". How it actually works? Does it implicitely asnwer my previous question of a default max amoount of funds a trader has? raising the value for this line will let traders refill their funds slower or faster?
Andi May 1, 2024 @ 1:33am 
Hey ;) Found a little tool wich might help you with setting up your traders, though I'm not sure if it's gonna help with your specific question.
It should make things easier to set up nonetheless. ;)
https://trader.scum-global.com/configure
TheProf May 1, 2024 @ 6:22am 
already checked. it does not explain exactly how commands work and does not give answers to my questions. It could be helpful anyway, thanks
NUMBER1X™ May 1, 2024 @ 11:09am 
set your trader funds to unlimited in server economyoverride.json
should look like this

{
"economy-override": {
"economy-reset-time-hours": "1.0",
"prices-randomization-time-hours": "1.0",
"tradeable-rotation-time-ingame-hours-min": "12.0",
"tradeable-rotation-time-ingame-hours-max": "12.0",
"tradeable-rotation-time-of-day-min": "4.0",
"tradeable-rotation-time-of-day-max": "8.0",
"fully-restock-tradeable-hours": "2.0",
"trader-funds-change-rate-per-hour-multiplier": "1.0",
"prices-subject-to-player-count": "0",
"gold-price-subject-to-global-multiplier": "0",
"economy-logging": "1",
"traders-unlimited-funds": "1",
"traders-unlimited-stock": "1",
"only-after-player-sale-tradeable-availability-enabled": "0",
"tradeable-rotation-enabled": "0",
"enable-fame-point-requirement": "1",
NUMBER1X™ May 1, 2024 @ 11:11am 
if you need help ping me i will be more than happy to help when free
TheProf May 1, 2024 @ 12:00pm 
Originally posted by NUMBER1X™:
if you need help ping me i will be more than happy to help when free
lol, so old an noob that I dont know how to ping!!
thanks, I already disabled rotation prices subject to player count.
I knew how to set unlimited funds and stock, but I would like to know what the other variables exactly affect game. let me say a question of pure curiosity.

very helpful indeed, I will use your configuration if my trials will fail :-)
Last edited by TheProf; May 1, 2024 @ 12:00pm
xKiCkx  [developer] May 2, 2024 @ 5:25am 
Even tho answered, update for the question for unlimited funds, this is the setting in the economy.json that affects that:
"traders-unlimited-funds": "1",
TheProf May 2, 2024 @ 8:44am 
Originally posted by xKiCkx:
Even tho answered, update for the question for unlimited funds, this is the setting in the economy.json that affects that:
"traders-unlimited-funds": "1",
Tks to dev too, but the question was not how to set unlimited funds.
The main question was why traders funds appers to be capped and does not increase as they should do.
Setting to unlimited bypas the problem, but it is still there
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xKiCkx  [developer] May 2, 2024 @ 11:58pm 
Originally posted by TheProf:
Originally posted by xKiCkx:
Even tho answered, update for the question for unlimited funds, this is the setting in the economy.json that affects that:
"traders-unlimited-funds": "1",
Tks to dev too, but the question was not how to set unlimited funds.
The main question was why traders funds appers to be capped and does not increase as they should do.
Setting to unlimited bypas the problem, but it is still there

That depends on the prosperity level of traders. Over time as you trade in outposts with each trader, they will be able to hold more funds, the upper limit for that is 100k.
TheProf May 3, 2024 @ 12:34am 
that's the answer I was looking for. Thank you so much
Originally posted by NUMBER1X™:
if you need help ping me i will be more than happy to help when free
Can you help me find my traders files please, im trying to set the sell price for traders and buy price but i cant locate that traders.json to save my life
Originally posted by xKiCkx:
Originally posted by TheProf:
Tks to dev too, but the question was not how to set unlimited funds.
The main question was why traders funds appers to be capped and does not increase as they should do.
Setting to unlimited bypas the problem, but it is still there

That depends on the prosperity level of traders. Over time as you trade in outposts with each trader, they will be able to hold more funds, the upper limit for that is 100k.
could you please tell me where to locate the traders.json file so i can edit the sell and buy prices
xKiCkx  [developer] Mar 17 @ 3:39am 
File is called Economy.json and you can find in the the "...\AppData\Local\SCUM\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor" or corresponding file for the server.
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