So I assume PVP is still dead af

[DJ_Jord]

If FP is still that tedious to get (and every server owner is like "nah we will not put the multiplier up get grinding son") how are you even meant to play the game? I swear dying takes away 50% of these aswell, not sure if thats to players only or not but this makes it impossible to buy a car etc and you most likely won't find a car body anymore and anything else that is bought in traders really

[serilium]

some servers you don`t need fame points to buy from a trader, i admit it`s a small number but they do exist, also for long term players this isn`t an issue, we remember scum before traders were in game and know how to play without needing a trader, that is still an option and bow and arrows are free to make and use.

[DJ_Jord]

Originally posted by serilium:

some servers you don`t need fame points to buy from a trader, i admit it`s a small number but they do exist, also for long term players this isn`t an issue, we remember scum before traders were in game and know how to play without needing a trader, that is still an option and bow and arrows are free to make and use.

its mainly that without one I don't find vehicles as much now, I played back in 0.5 and I used to find them all the time

[PainGravy]

I would argue that pvp is dead because it's just lame af. It just boils down to whoever saw who first wins, and it gets to the point that even when you win it's not fulfilling because you know the other person really didn't have a chance.

[oynlengeymer]

its likely not the game for you. pvp should be imo, mostly avoided unless you get the drop on someone and you have the gear to deal with them.

The risk /reward early on is big. so its a gamble. but each plays different. I finally found a car and been building it over the last week or so of my small free time I have to play. its been nice, kinda like a side quest to find everything I need. Likely someone will steal it before finished tho, thats my only gripe, is that devs have made the cars glow in the dark, so you cant even hide them well anymore.

For pvp, there are battle royal servers, servers with starter packs and low fp respawns etc. some botshops you can buy everything including cars and its spawned right next to you etc.

But officials, which I play, seem to be geared towards survival with the CHANCE of pvp encounters secondary, which I like.

[DJ_Jord]

Originally posted by oynlengeymer:

its likely not the game for you. pvp should be imo, mostly avoided unless you get the drop on someone and you have the gear to deal with them.

The risk /reward early on is big. so its a gamble. but each plays different. I finally found a car and been building it over the last week or so of my small free time I have to play. its been nice, kinda like a side quest to find everything I need. Likely someone will steal it before finished tho, thats my only gripe, is that devs have made the cars glow in the dark, so you cant even hide them well anymore.

For pvp, there are battle royal servers, servers with starter packs and low fp respawns etc. some botshops you can buy everything including cars and its spawned right next to you etc.

But officials, which I play, seem to be geared towards survival with the CHANCE of pvp encounters secondary, which I like.

I assume you did not play scum in 0.5-0.6 where pvp was common af, no one gets on a survival game to play BRs and botshops are literally the ultimate cheese mechanic. We should just be able to use traders without FP like how it originally was as they take so long to get it boils down to having one "base ♥♥♥♥♥" as we called them in our 3 man, do not leave base, only leave base when we need stuff buying as if "base ♥♥♥♥♥" died we'd lose the ability to buy anything

[fatesdeath]

and by reading non of you played when the game released in to Early access (no offenece)
pvp was THE ONLY thing to do sure we had some survival stuff but it was minimal compared to what is in the game now
the game has come leaps and bounds it just need to refine its scope and get to work on the bugs and QOL

"pvp dead af" yea it should die out for the most part.
it should always be a threat but it shouldnt be the thing you feel you HAVE to do
thats what the " survival " part is for, the one constant you NEED to do

if you want to fight people thaaaaat bad i suggest call of duty you will find the fights you crave

[CheeseKing]

Originally posted by DJ_Jord:

If FP is still that tedious to get (and every server owner is like "nah we will not put the multiplier up get grinding son") how are you even meant to play the game? I swear dying takes away 50% of these aswell, not sure if thats to players only or not but this makes it impossible to buy a car etc and you most likely won't find a car body anymore and anything else that is bought in traders really

It will be changed in the future as well, I'm just not sure I would agree that PVP is dead. It very much depends on the server you are playing on, for example EU # 1 is a massacre.

[DJ_Jord]

Originally posted by fatesdeath:

and by reading non of you played when the game released in to Early access (no offenece)
pvp was THE ONLY thing to do sure we had some survival stuff but it was minimal compared to what is in the game now
the game has come leaps and bounds it just need to refine its scope and get to work on the bugs and QOL

"pvp dead af" yea it should die out for the most part.
it should always be a threat but it shouldnt be the thing you feel you HAVE to do
thats what the " survival " part is for, the one constant you NEED to do

if you want to fight people thaaaaat bad i suggest call of duty you will find the fights you crave

can you actually read any message i've put on here or what, I like survival games but one person out of your group will have to be a base ♥♥♥♥♥ because of FP. How is that fun? Saying "go play cod" does ♥♥♥♥ all it just makes less people play the game, there are already tons of pve survival games to play the only pvp ones I can think of are rust/dayz

[DJ_Jord]

Originally posted by CheeseKing:

Originally posted by DJ_Jord:

If FP is still that tedious to get (and every server owner is like "nah we will not put the multiplier up get grinding son") how are you even meant to play the game? I swear dying takes away 50% of these aswell, not sure if thats to players only or not but this makes it impossible to buy a car etc and you most likely won't find a car body anymore and anything else that is bought in traders really

It will be changed in the future as well, I'm just not sure I would agree that PVP is dead. It very much depends on the server you are playing on, for example EU # 1 is a massacre.

I honestly thought you had a dayz killer in your grasp when the game was in 0.6/0.5 but the more updates that cater to pve will not make the game grow, as stated above there are many pve survival games to play and this one is shaping up to be one of the most boring ones. Go to abandoned bunker, cheese brenner, stealth the whole thing, guns literally get melted like its not a real gun, same with clothing durability etc its more tedious than game at this point and if you mean play on official servers i've learned from dayz that hackers can do what tf they want on them as there is no admin so you can lose hours of progress easily

[CheeseKing]

Originally posted by DJ_Jord:

Originally posted by CheeseKing:

It will be changed in the future as well, I'm just not sure I would agree that PVP is dead. It very much depends on the server you are playing on, for example EU # 1 is a massacre.

I honestly thought you had a dayz killer in your grasp when the game was in 0.6/0.5 but the more updates that cater to pve will not make the game grow, as stated above there are many pve survival games to play and this one is shaping up to be one of the most boring ones. Go to abandoned bunker, cheese brenner, stealth the whole thing, guns literally get melted like its not a real gun, same with clothing durability etc its more tedious than game at this point and if you mean play on official servers i've learned from dayz that hackers can do what tf they want on them as there is no admin so you can lose hours of progress easily

Not sure it's as easy as you make it now with 2 abandoned bunkers active for 24 hours, it seems that you want way more PVP than we can achieve on official servers. Luckily there are a lot of private servers that could have set their server up to your preferences. We only go as far as a few hardcore servers that we have.

[Ghost]

Originally posted by DJ_Jord:

Originally posted by fatesdeath:

and by reading non of you played when the game released in to Early access (no offenece)
pvp was THE ONLY thing to do sure we had some survival stuff but it was minimal compared to what is in the game now
the game has come leaps and bounds it just need to refine its scope and get to work on the bugs and QOL

"pvp dead af" yea it should die out for the most part.
it should always be a threat but it shouldnt be the thing you feel you HAVE to do
thats what the " survival " part is for, the one constant you NEED to do

if you want to fight people thaaaaat bad i suggest call of duty you will find the fights you crave

can you actually read any message i've put on here or what, I like survival games but one person out of your group will have to be a base ♥♥♥♥♥ because of FP. How is that fun? Saying "go play cod" does ♥♥♥♥ all it just makes less people play the game, there are already tons of pve survival games to play the only pvp ones I can think of are rust/dayz

Night of the dead
No one survived
the front
just to name a few more pvp based, base builder games.
dead poly
7 days to die
they keep popping into mind so ill stop here

[DJ_Jord]

Originally posted by Ghost:

Originally posted by DJ_Jord:

can you actually read any message i've put on here or what, I like survival games but one person out of your group will have to be a base ♥♥♥♥♥ because of FP. How is that fun? Saying "go play cod" does ♥♥♥♥ all it just makes less people play the game, there are already tons of pve survival games to play the only pvp ones I can think of are rust/dayz

Night of the dead
No one survived
the front
just to name a few more pvp based, base builder games.
dead poly
7 days to die
they keep popping into mind so ill stop here

I mean I never saw 7 days to die having a very balanced pvp system as its been worked on for years and I can't imagine how pvp would feel good in that game, the rest I feel the same thanks for the suggestions but they don't really come close to what scums blasting someones face into pieces looks like

[Ghost]

Originally posted by DJ_Jord:

Originally posted by Ghost:

Night of the dead
No one survived
the front
just to name a few more pvp based, base builder games.
dead poly
7 days to die
they keep popping into mind so ill stop here

I mean I never saw 7 days to die having a very balanced pvp system as its been worked on for years and I can't imagine how pvp would feel good in that game, the rest I feel the same thanks for the suggestions but they don't really come close to what scums blasting someones face into pieces looks like

7 days is fair imo but the option is there.
dont get me wrong here scum is on the better end of all those games imo. they all bring something to the table. i love survival games like this, why i keep coming back to scum.
if you want to hate yourself.
last oasis
on that note and made by the same
ark dont do it
whats that 1 mostly unfinished?
deadside
nothing comes close, imo survival means you must defend or murder sometimes. its never fast which conflicts with the pvp gamers. its why the top pvp servers are botshop x10 everything with ability to tp.

[Des]

Originally posted by CheeseKing:

Originally posted by DJ_Jord:

If FP is still that tedious to get (and every server owner is like "nah we will not put the multiplier up get grinding son") how are you even meant to play the game? I swear dying takes away 50% of these aswell, not sure if thats to players only or not but this makes it impossible to buy a car etc and you most likely won't find a car body anymore and anything else that is bought in traders really

It will be changed in the future as well, I'm just not sure I would agree that PVP is dead. It very much depends on the server you are playing on, for example EU # 1 is a massacre.

EU #1 is also filled with cheaters, so good luck not being killed or raided by casper the not so friendly ghost. The same as most of the US servers. But you already know this much, Aside from that the PVP for the most part is a dead end in terms of content. Not really sure how you could make PVP entertaining with guns or maybe I'm just old and lack that dopamine hit. lol Cheers, Cheese boi. Keep on keeping on and please for the love of all... GIVE ME MY RAFT BACK!!!! {/S}

@OP It's kinda supposed to be hard to get FP dude, It's a slow paced survival PVE with PVP game not a run and gun shooter. FFs I'm also a 0.5er and PVP was never that huge on any servers I played on... Unless you count FatesDeath blowing a dude up at a gas station with a mine pvp. I've played on servers with most if not all of the forum regs. The traders are a lie, Makes you think it's a fast paced game, Grab loot sell, buy gun, go die. It's not like that. My advice, Not that you'll care or take it. Buy a fishing pole and go fish. Relax, take it slow and enjoy the game for what it is and not try to make it something it's not.

[DJ_Jord]

Originally posted by Des:

Originally posted by CheeseKing:

It will be changed in the future as well, I'm just not sure I would agree that PVP is dead. It very much depends on the server you are playing on, for example EU # 1 is a massacre.

EU #1 is also filled with cheaters, so good luck not being killed or raided by casper the not so friendly ghost. The same as most of the US servers. But you already know this much, Aside from that the PVP for the most part is a dead end in terms of content. Not really sure how you could make PVP entertaining with guns or maybe I'm just old and lack that dopamine hit. lol Cheers, Cheese boi. Keep on keeping on and please for the love of all... GIVE ME MY RAFT BACK!!!! {/S}

@OP It's kinda supposed to be hard to get FP dude, It's a slow paced survival PVE with PVP game not a run and gun shooter. FFs I'm also a 0.5er and PVP was never that huge on any servers I played on... Unless you count FatesDeath blowing a dude up at a gas station with a mine pvp. I've played on servers with most if not all of the forum regs. The traders are a lie, Makes you think it's a fast paced game, Grab loot sell, buy gun, go die. It's not like that. My advice, Not that you'll care or take it. Buy a fishing pole and go fish. Relax, take it slow and enjoy the game for what it is and not try to make it something it's not.

not trying to be that guy but if I wanted to purely fish i'd be a PVE'r, that just ain't me and in 0.5 FP was pretty much a bragging right of the top squads that killed one and other, now it means who has bummed the game the most and has the most base ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lmao