Fix the weapons jamming.

[Болен Сидеров]

AS VAL jams every single shot and my weapon is at 40-60% HP. Not realistic at all! Weapons don't need to be cleaned after 3 magazines of shooting. Also in real life, weapon cleaning kits don't disappear when you use them. They are reusable.

Thanks

[kule]

But this isn't real life. It is a game where degradation is a key mechanic. You also don't have to bust out a needle and thread multiple times during a hike in real life.

But if you want to make a survival game differently, go ahead! But you will need a competent team and a load of money. Good luck!

[Nake]

I know it's a nuisance right? but on the store page it says "Fully Realistic Bullet Physics" and they don't say anything about realistic weapon performance so I guess we can't demand anything about that

[smokey57]

Originally posted by Nake:

I know it's a nuisance right? but on the store page it says "Fully Realistic Bullet Physics" and they don't say anything about realistic weapon performance so I guess we can't demand anything about that

Yeah, if everything was made to be 100% realistic and true to life, it would take an eternity to make and perfect, it would be impossible to do anyway, and if they actually could, it probably wouldn't be any effing fun at all to play in actual practice. So they do the best they can with the parts they can, and hope that it will be realistic enough.

[Nake]

Originally posted by smokey57:

Yeah, if everything was made to be 100% realistic and true to life, it would take an eternity to make and perfect, it would be impossible to do, and it probably wouldn't be any effing fun at all to play, in actual practice.

Agree 100%

[Red River]

keep it above 70% if you want no jams...

[smokey57]

Originally posted by Red River:

keep it above 70% if you want no jams...

Yeah. I do my best to always keep it above 90%, and still sometimes get jams.

[Red River]

Originally posted by smokey57:

Originally posted by Red River:

keep it above 70% if you want no jams...

Yeah. I do my best to always keep it above 90%, and still sometimes get jams.

some guns are more prone like pump and bolt action ones...

[smokey57]

Originally posted by Red River:

Originally posted by smokey57:

Yeah. I do my best to always keep it above 90%, and still sometimes get jams.

some guns are more prone like pump and bolt action ones...

After years using them now, i'm fully of the opinion that most shotgun jams have nothing to do with the durability level of the weapon, as i generally keep my shotties at 95%+ all the time, and they still fail to jack a shell back in after firing, almost 30% of the time. With 100% ammunition. And that's usually without even getting hit by anything either. There's no indication of jamming, you just get a 'click-aww sh*t' next time you go to fire at something.

[Kizzle]

reloads?

I've seen shotgun barrels blow up Elmer Fudd style irl due to poorly loaded cartridges... cartridges that were loaded while *very* sober in a clean & controlled environment haha

[smokey57]

Originally posted by Kizzle:

reloads?

I've seen shotgun barrels blow up Elmer Fudd style irl due to poorly loaded cartridges... cartridges that were loaded while *very* sober in a clean & controlled environment haha

100% out of the box factory ammo.

[xKiCkx]

Hey there OP, there is nothing wrong with weapon jamming, it's working as intended. Weapons have a chance to jam to matter what percentage they are at, lower the health higher the chance of a jam of a weapon, so in theory, you can get a jam on 100% rifle.

[Red River]

the double barrels and revolvers never jam though;
just make sure ammo isn't too low condition...

[ENOWONMAI]

Originally posted by xKiCkx:

Hey there OP, there is nothing wrong with weapon jamming, it's working as intended. Weapons have a chance to jam to matter what percentage they are at, lower the health higher the chance of a jam of a weapon, so in theory, you can get a jam on 100% rifle.

What is the percentage chance of this happening? Is it based on anything other than a randomly applied mechanic to make things more tedious? Do you remember how everybody hated the Far Cry 2 weapons jamming? Good times.

My point is this is not a realistic behavior for firearms and a totally arbitrary feature that adds nothing to the game. I own several firearms in multiple calibers, both vintage and newer platforms and they will never jam, firearms like bolt action, revolvers, double barrel shotguns will never jam either unless really questionable ammunition is used (like Kizzle mentioned above).

As the OP stated, the AS VAL is an AK platform, it will NEVER jam, as demonstrated by the AK Operators Union Youtube channel, an AK platform rifle can be left in a lake for a week and it will still fire, you can drop sand in it, bury it, drive over it with a truck and it will still fire. Garand Thumb, another Youtuber does freeze tests (Russian AK factories at Izhmash and Molot do the same) and AKs never fail to fire.

Just my 2 cents.

[ENOWONMAI]

Originally posted by Q:

Болен before i got out of my base i clean my weapon i reload all my magazines, i keep count in what magazine i have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ammo so my weapon wont jam in front of a puppet.
I like this why do u wan to take away this pleasure of my

In my opinion crafted firearms should jam at a regular rate, like 50% chance of jamming or more. Regular firearms should only jam if player is using crafted ammunition or if they are in really really bad condition, keeping in mind that AKs do not need to be cleaned at all, unless the barrel is stuffed.

[Skeleton Society]

A game about zombies on a prison island and people are talking about realism...