How long is plant growth supposed to take in the garden?

[DoktorFar]

Three days ago I build a garden and put in a bunch of different kinds of seeds (garlic, tomato, apple, pear, zucchini, etc) and also used industrial fertilizer bag to put fertilizer on them. I also removed all of the weeds, which was quite a lot. Since then nothing has happened. No new weeds come up, and the seeds I planted have not even germinated to the first stage. There's just nothing. All I can do is "Destroy plant" when looking at the small earth mounds.

While I have been playing multiple times during these days it has been raining, so I think the seeds should have been getting enough water.

Is farming broken or why on earth is it taking so long?

[Deathwhisper]

Hello :),

It may take some days before plants grow. However, did you changed Tods ? (Time of Day Speed) to another value ?

[DoktorFar]

Originally posted by Deathwhisper:

Hello :),

It may take some days before plants grow. However, did you changed Tods ? (Time of Day Speed) to another value ?

Not that I know of, it is a community server; so I may try to ask them about the Tods.

[Jolie Rouge]

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

Originally posted by Deathwhisper:

Hello :),

It may take some days before plants grow. However, did you changed Tods ? (Time of Day Speed) to another value ?

Not that I know of, it is a community server; so I may try to ask them about the Tods.

Use right mouse button on the plants to get information about the plant. Gives details like water, fertilizer and the stage the plant's in.

[DoktorFar]

Originally posted by Deathwhisper:

Hello :),

It may take some days before plants grow. However, did you changed Tods ? (Time of Day Speed) to another value ?

Normal Tods, but I examined the plants and they were all dead. I can't make sense of that? It says around 1,200 mL water for each of them. And as mentioned it has been raining multiple times. Why would they die?

[JonExx]

I'd be surprised if the rain would count to the plants need for water.
Much rather do you have to water them permanently even if it is raining 24/7.

[DoktorFar]

Originally posted by JonExx:

I'd be surprised if the rain would count to the plants need for water.
Much rather do you have to water them permanently even if it is raining 24/7.

oh? well it should. So I guess it's another thing that will eventually make it into the game? Seems like a lot of work to grow these veggies.

[Jolie Rouge]

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

Originally posted by JonExx:

I'd be surprised if the rain would count to the plants need for water.
Much rather do you have to water them permanently even if it is raining 24/7.

oh? well it should. So I guess it's another thing that will eventually make it into the game? Seems like a lot of work to grow these veggies.

Rain does count towards watering plants, as it should be.

[Deathwhisper]

Originally posted by Jolie Rouge:

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

oh? well it should. So I guess it's another thing that will eventually make it into the game? Seems like a lot of work to grow these veggies.

Rain does count towards watering plants, as it should be.

Indeed, rain affect watering plants quiet a bit. If i decide to build planters i often also rely on it.

[PepsiMontana]

With an water well and a generator we should be able to build an pump and timer for auto watering? Maby to overkill? Aja garden work is fun, but it takes some time.

Grow cannabis and other stuff for sell would be awsome. A nice compliment to loot villages for money

[DoktorFar]

Originally posted by Deathwhisper:

Originally posted by Jolie Rouge:

Rain does count towards watering plants, as it should be.

Indeed, rain affect watering plants quiet a bit. If i decide to build planters i often also rely on it.

Doesnt make sense to me that the plants died then. Unless the seeds can die before even starting to grow if there is no water from the beginning and too much time went by before it started raining? Being seeds that shouldnt be possible of course, but could that be a reason?

[Deathwhisper]

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

Originally posted by Deathwhisper:

Indeed, rain affect watering plants quiet a bit. If i decide to build planters i often also rely on it.

Doesnt make sense to me that the plants died then. Unless the seeds can die before even starting to grow if there is no water from the beginning and too much time went by before it started raining? Being seeds that shouldnt be possible of course, but could that be a reason?

There can be severeal influences on crop grow. If you going to build a garden plot in the snow area you wont have much joy of it since it is way to cold for the plants to grow. But also other sources of influence can stop or even destroy them. (Fungus infection etc) So it is always worth to check the garden once in a time to make sure nothing is missing and nothing is influencing the growth.

The first seed will need water in any case. After they have gathered enough you can somewhat safely ignore it, especially when it has rained.

[DoktorFar]

Originally posted by Deathwhisper:

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

Doesnt make sense to me that the plants died then. Unless the seeds can die before even starting to grow if there is no water from the beginning and too much time went by before it started raining? Being seeds that shouldnt be possible of course, but could that be a reason?

There can be severeal influences on crop grow. If you going to build a garden plot in the snow area you wont have much joy of it since it is way to cold for the plants to grow. But also other sources of influence can stop or even destroy them. (Fungus infection etc) So it is always worth to check the garden once in a time to make sure nothing is missing and nothing is influencing the growth.

The first seed will need water in any case. After they have gathered enough you can somewhat safely ignore it, especially when it has rained.

Ok thanks for the info. yeah I did not water them, I put them in an then was waiting for rain, and it did rain eventually after playing for hours. I guess that caused the seeds to die then?

I touched on this in previous comment but seeds dont die when they haven't begun germination, so maybe this should be changed eventually.

A reason for plant death in the interface would be nice, if only to understand if the mechanics are working as intended.

[Deathwhisper]

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

Originally posted by Deathwhisper:

There can be severeal influences on crop grow. If you going to build a garden plot in the snow area you wont have much joy of it since it is way to cold for the plants to grow. But also other sources of influence can stop or even destroy them. (Fungus infection etc) So it is always worth to check the garden once in a time to make sure nothing is missing and nothing is influencing the growth.

The first seed will need water in any case. After they have gathered enough you can somewhat safely ignore it, especially when it has rained.

Ok thanks for the info. yeah I did not water them, I put them in an then was waiting for rain, and it did rain eventually after playing for hours. I guess that caused the seeds to die then?

I touched on this in previous comment but seeds dont die when they haven't begun germination, so maybe this should be changed eventually.

A reason for plant death in the interface would be nice, if only to understand if the mechanics are working as intended.

Since this is my RL work I can assure you there is no 100% chance ^^.(Also there is rarely a good chance to see the exact cause of plant death, especially if they are not even developed yet.) There are many effects and circumstances that can hinder or eliminate a seed and it also depends on what kind of seed it is, as there are thousands and thousands of different types of seeds for different plants, all of which react very differently.

Fortunately, it's not that precise in the game (so you don't have to study gardening and landscaping), but I haven't really bothered with it yet, let alone for long, since it's my daily work and I'm less inclined to take work home with me .

[DoktorFar]

Originally posted by Deathwhisper:

Originally posted by DoktorFar:

Ok thanks for the info. yeah I did not water them, I put them in an then was waiting for rain, and it did rain eventually after playing for hours. I guess that caused the seeds to die then?

I touched on this in previous comment but seeds dont die when they haven't begun germination, so maybe this should be changed eventually.

A reason for plant death in the interface would be nice, if only to understand if the mechanics are working as intended.

Since this is my RL work I can assure you there is no 100% chance ^^.(Also there is rarely a good chance to see the exact cause of plant death, especially if they are not even developed yet.) There are many effects and circumstances that can hinder or eliminate a seed and it also depends on what kind of seed it is, as there are thousands and thousands of different types of seeds for different plants, all of which react very differently.

Fortunately, it's not that precise in the game (so you don't have to study gardening and landscaping), but I haven't really bothered with it yet, let alone for long, since it's my daily work and I'm less inclined to take work home with me .

I agree about not just having a magical way to see why plant dies. I was more thinking in terms of checking if things in the game are working as they should (bugs or lack of features etc) or if it was just me that didn't do something right.

"there is no 100% chance". It did seem like the "chance" of seeds expiring before germination without water is 100% sure in the game; which you with your RL plant experience must agree with me should be very unexpected? It's a (imo unfortunate) common theme I encounter in this game: the game is incredible at poking my imagination to think out of the box but then always denying 90% of all solutions I come up with that actually would have worked, at least to some degree, in real life. I think it is awesome that you work with that in RL, I hope in time you can bring in some more refinement to the gardening in the game and use your knowledge there :)

I helped my dad in his garden for a long time, he literally turned his entire area around the house into a garden, plants everywhere in long rows that you could walk in between the rows. Tried to plant many different kinds of seeds for fun and I know from that experience that not watering them initially and just letting rain take care of it doesn't mean death, they do sprout if rain comes eventually. Droughts kill the plant after it germinates, so if the ground was already too dry when seed was planted it is unlikely to sprout and wouldn't die, at least not for a long time, weeks probably or more depending on what plant it is. Or if the ground was just wet enough to make the seed sprout and then it wouldn't rain for days and I didn't water it, then it's going to die too.

[JonExx]

Originally posted by Deathwhisper:

Originally posted by Jolie Rouge:

Rain does count towards watering plants, as it should be.

Indeed, rain affect watering plants quiet a bit. If i decide to build planters i often also rely on it.

So, I am surprised.
Positively, at least :)