SCUM
Sweets Jan 23, 2024 @ 10:43am
Pvp ideal
I love this game but I feel like the pvp is really lacking even on the heavy pvp servers often times I find myself wishing to be killed just so I can loose some gear to make space and I rarely see anyone to face even if I camp a pvp heavy zone.


So this is a ideal I had and it involves the event system being reworked. Instead of the events being risk free death matches with no reward let's have them be extraction shooter style events where a handful of players set up their own gear sets and are spawn inside a zone with a set of goals to complete for big rewards. You can loot other players and be looted so pvp stakes are high. These events should either be admin controlled or time events that pop off throughout the day.
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fatesdeath Jan 23, 2024 @ 11:04am 
Originally posted by Sweeks:
I love this game but I feel like the pvp is really lacking even on the heavy pvp servers often times I find myself wishing to be killed just so I can loose some gear to make space and I rarely see anyone to face even if I camp a pvp heavy zone.
you might have bought the wrong game.
scum is PVP OPTIONAL and SECONDARY to survival

Originally posted by Sweeks:
So this is a ideal I had and it involves the event system being reworked. Instead of the events being risk free death matches with no reward let's have them be extraction shooter style events where a handful of players set up their own gear sets and are spawn inside a zone with a set of goals to complete for big rewards. You can loot other players and be looted so pvp stakes are high. These events should either be admin controlled or time events that pop off throughout the day.

god no just go play tarkov or rust if you want fast pace looty shooty player pvp survival
this game isnt pvp first =|

YOU CAN PVP
but that dosnt mean you will be able to have all the action you want
pvp is situational
and SHOULD NEVER be a 100% guarantee

pvp servers are more what your looking for IF your die hard trying on here
but its a losing battle untill
"custom modded servers" that CHANGE the base game
right now ALL private servers ONLY can change settings no real "custom content" to be had so no "custom game modes" can be made

im all for private servers doing what ever they want and allowing them to make custom modes or what ever
but dont ask the base game to be changed to fit what other games do better
if you want an extraction shooter or pvp heavy theres tarkov and rust for that need to shoot things
CrankyOldMan Jan 23, 2024 @ 11:21am 
Go join a bot server and then join their discord.

You get coins for joining the discord then you order your gear delivered to you!

Then you go and get killed and do it all over again non stop!
Sweets Jan 23, 2024 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by fatesdeath:
Originally posted by Sweeks:
I love this game but I feel like the pvp is really lacking even on the heavy pvp servers often times I find myself wishing to be killed just so I can loose some gear to make space and I rarely see anyone to face even if I camp a pvp heavy zone.
you might have bought the wrong game.
scum is PVP OPTIONAL and SECONDARY to survival

Originally posted by Sweeks:
So this is a ideal I had and it involves the event system being reworked. Instead of the events being risk free death matches with no reward let's have them be extraction shooter style events where a handful of players set up their own gear sets and are spawn inside a zone with a set of goals to complete for big rewards. You can loot other players and be looted so pvp stakes are high. These events should either be admin controlled or time events that pop off throughout the day.

god no just go play tarkov or rust if you want fast pace looty shooty player pvp survival
this game isnt pvp first =|

YOU CAN PVP
but that dosnt mean you will be able to have all the action you want
pvp is situational
and SHOULD NEVER be a 100% guarantee

pvp servers are more what your looking for IF your die hard trying on here
but its a losing battle untill
"custom modded servers" that CHANGE the base game
right now ALL private servers ONLY can change settings no real "custom content" to be had so no "custom game modes" can be made

im all for private servers doing what ever they want and allowing them to make custom modes or what ever
but dont ask the base game to be changed to fit what other games do better
if you want an extraction shooter or pvp heavy theres tarkov and rust for that need to shoot things
If pve players can keep making their suggestions then I keep pushing mine

I think its a great ideal and if you do not like it guess what, its totally optional for you as well but the pvp crowd are dropping like flies because its a struggle to find joy for them. It really sucks getting fully geared and waiting hours and hours in hope to find some content only to give up and log. All my sessions have ended with me just permanently logging becuase I have everything I need and nothing at the same time. Boxes full of guns and armor and nothing to use them on especially now with the ai change and on high pop servers these puppets rarely even spawn. You literally walk forever and do nothing.

When I say extraction I mean in terms of spawning players in a area to face each other as right now its hard to find roaming squads on such a big empty map. Again this is totally optional game content and not at all necessary for you to keep having your ideal of fun.
Sweets Jan 23, 2024 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:
Go join a bot server and then join their discord.

You get coins for joining the discord then you order your gear delivered to you!

Then you go and get killed and do it all over again non stop!
Played them and they are slog fest to with lackluster player pvp. You rarely see anyone ever it might as well be a pve game
CrankyOldMan Jan 23, 2024 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by Sweeks:
Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:
Go join a bot server and then join their discord.

You get coins for joining the discord then you order your gear delivered to you!

Then you go and get killed and do it all over again non stop!

Played them and they are slog fest to with lackluster player pvp. You rarely see anyone ever it might as well be a pve game
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LOl yeah ok!

Last edited by CrankyOldMan; Jan 23, 2024 @ 11:50am
Skywalker Jan 23, 2024 @ 11:57am 
Originally posted by Sweeks:
I find myself wishing to be killed just so I can loose some gear to make space

Right click on the gear - select: drop - you loose this gear - now you have more space - done.
Des Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Sweeks:
Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:
Go join a bot server and then join their discord.

You get coins for joining the discord then you order your gear delivered to you!

Then you go and get killed and do it all over again non stop!
Played them and they are slog fest to with lackluster player pvp. You rarely see anyone ever it might as well be a pve game
It um... Oh god, How to say this... It is a {Barf} It is a PVE game. Notice the OPTIONAL PVP. It's not the main part of the game, Never was, Never was going to be. PVP was the first thing added because it gave the least amount of work for the most amount of content until they could add the rest of the content.

From the STEAM STORE

"SCUM aims to evolve the multiplayer open world survival game with unprecedented levels of character customization, control and progression, where knowledge and skills are the ultimate weapons for long-term survival. Combining the methodical planning and management of hardcore survival with {"optional PvP"} ‘network events’ available to everyone at anytime, SCUM strikes a unique balance between complex simulation and intense action in the next generation of survival game."
Sweets Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:16pm 
Originally posted by Skywalker:
Originally posted by Sweeks:
I find myself wishing to be killed just so I can loose some gear to make space

Right click on the gear - select: drop - you loose this gear - now you have more space - done.
Ohh yeah no sht sherlock did Watson tell you that or you came up with it yourself
Sweets Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by Des:
Originally posted by Sweeks:
Played them and they are slog fest to with lackluster player pvp. You rarely see anyone ever it might as well be a pve game
It um... Oh god, How to say this... It is a {Barf} It is a PVE game. Notice the OPTIONAL PVP. It's not the main part of the game, Never was, Never was going to be. PVP was the first thing added because it gave the least amount of work for the most amount of content until they could add the rest of the content.

From the STEAM STORE

"SCUM aims to evolve the multiplayer open world survival game with unprecedented levels of character customization, control and progression, where knowledge and skills are the ultimate weapons for long-term survival. Combining the methodical planning and management of hardcore survival with {"optional PvP"} ‘network events’ available to everyone at anytime, SCUM strikes a unique balance between complex simulation and intense action in the next generation of survival game."
Actually it does not state both are optional even the "gag" the survival elements can be ignore based on the Wikipedia description of the game.

I be fine if the pve was good but its not and the survival is in deph...till you look closer and realize its still needs more work. You know one you said rust be better for me and rust has bad pve. You know how it cover it up? Having a good damn pvp side! You don't need have a huge complex pve system if you have a good pvp system to push players to tackle! However a game like conan exiles which marks itself as a good pvp game sucks as a pvp game but makes it up for having a great pve aspect and tons of pve to dig through.

Scum has none of that going and is already straining itself to keep its current pve content functioning. I am not saying reinvent the wheel and change the game but offer more pvp content for us that wish to take part in it is that so wrong?
Last edited by Sweets; Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:22pm
CrankyOldMan Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:22pm 
Originally posted by Sweeks:
Originally posted by Skywalker:

Right click on the gear - select: drop - you loose this gear - now you have more space - done.
Ohh yeah no sht sherlock did Watson tell you that or you came up with it yourself

You killed 1 player!
You have less than 300 hours of game play!
Your words do not back up your profile and now you post this!

Posting things like this with the attitude presented can get you banned!

I be fine if the pve was good but its not and the survival is in deph...till you loom closer and realize its still needs more work!

Also the game is in EARLY ACCESS it is not finished it is far from being finished

It is not designed to be A PVP GAME FIRST

You don't need have a huge complex pve system if you have a good pvp system to push players to tackle!

It is being designed to be a pve game, vitamins, minerals, cooking, fishing, farming!

Not a pvp game!
Last edited by CrankyOldMan; Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:27pm
Des Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:
Originally posted by Sweeks:
Ohh yeah no sht sherlock did Watson tell you that or you came up with it yourself

You killed 1 player!
You have less than 300 hours of game play!
Your words do not back up your profile and now you post this!

Posting things like this with the attitude presented can get you banned!
Let em Cook Cranky. Not his fault he can't read well, I blame the schools. Silliness aside, Sweeks is being a sassy cat. No harm intended, I'm sure.

@Sweeks, Yeah, See you used the Wiki. Look on the steam store front and read down a bit. If you can be bothered. XD
Sweets Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:28pm 
Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:
Originally posted by Sweeks:
Ohh yeah no sht sherlock did Watson tell you that or you came up with it yourself

You killed 1 player!
You have less than 300 hours of game play!
Your words do not back up your profile and now you post this!

Posting things like this with the attitude presented can get you banned!

I be fine if the pve was good but its not and the survival is in deph...till you loom closer and realize its still needs more work!

Also the game is in EARLY ACCESS it is not finished it is far from being finished
Yeah which means I can offer my own suggestions and I am a pvp player and thats wrong I killed more than 1 player but you can still count it all on one hand I assure you. The pvp aspect is lacking and its something I would like to suggest receiving some love and if thats wrong to ask for then I clearly put 300 hours in the wrong place
Sweets Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by Des:
Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:

You killed 1 player!
You have less than 300 hours of game play!
Your words do not back up your profile and now you post this!

Posting things like this with the attitude presented can get you banned!
Let em Cook Cranky. Not his fault he can't read well, I blame the schools. Silliness aside, Sweeks is being a sassy cat. No harm intended, I'm sure.

@Sweeks, Yeah, See you used the Wiki. Look on the steam store front and read down a bit. If you can be bothered. XD
"Both fan favorites and new prisoners will clash in a ruthless war of survival while battling for the support of viewers, producers, and corporate sponsors for fame, gifts, and a chance of life after death."

Uhh what about that one captain or we still cooking here? What part of that says its not a pvp game

Were the prisoners!
Last edited by Sweets; Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:32pm
Des Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by Sweeks:
Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:

You killed 1 player!
You have less than 300 hours of game play!
Your words do not back up your profile and now you post this!

Posting things like this with the attitude presented can get you banned!

I be fine if the pve was good but its not and the survival is in deph...till you loom closer and realize its still needs more work!

Also the game is in EARLY ACCESS it is not finished it is far from being finished
Yeah which means I can offer my own suggestions and I am a pvp player and thats wrong I killed more than 1 player but you can still count it all on one hand I assure you. The pvp aspect is lacking and its something I would like to suggest receiving some love and if thats wrong to ask for then I clearly put 300 hours in the wrong place
It's not wrong to ask. Us regulars just like poking fun at you rampant pvpers. We get like 10-20 of these kinda post a week.

If you have any good ideas make a post in the suggestions tab, The devs love free labor from us. lol
Sweets Jan 23, 2024 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by Des:
Originally posted by Sweeks:
Yeah which means I can offer my own suggestions and I am a pvp player and thats wrong I killed more than 1 player but you can still count it all on one hand I assure you. The pvp aspect is lacking and its something I would like to suggest receiving some love and if thats wrong to ask for then I clearly put 300 hours in the wrong place
It's not wrong to ask. Us regulars just like poking fun at you rampant pvpers. We get like 10-20 of these kinda post a week.

If you have any good ideas make a post in the suggestions tab, The devs love free labor from us. lol
Well fine I will but I love pve to and rather not be seen as a pvper I like options
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