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Yellowbuss Dec 23, 2023 @ 3:37pm
Improvised bow...
Since this is the new meta it should not last FOREVER.. Please how is a bow i made out of stick lasting longer than shoes? I should have to replace or fix it pretty regularly, right now I can make one and have it forever.
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ternekern Dec 23, 2023 @ 5:08pm 
Hmm, yes it is probably too durable. But Im not sure it is correct that bows made out of stick are not actually pretty durable at least to some extent. Im not a bowmaker, so I guess my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt, but my impression is that a self made bow made out of a stick will be fairly durable, and I mean much more than even new high quality guns in the sense that guns needs some regularly maintenance and especially important would be to keep the gun clean and to discover issues early and replace smaller parts that have been worn. You do not have that problem with a simpler bow, even a simple DIY bow. if it is build well by someone who knows how to do it and the materials is proper. Speaking of bows I think we lack the ability to make bows out of pieces of PVC plastic of appropriate dimensions. I have read about DIY bows made out of PVC, the material is perfect for a bow, extremely durable, available in vast quantities, I mean trash pieces PVC plastic should be numerous, and cutting it should be readily available with simple cutting tool and without special machinery.

And shoes gets surprisingly quickly worn, even high quaility ones and certainly light shoes or low quality and especially when you trudge around like a madman all day in rough terrain and weather and carrying tons of weight.

I also think that the improvised bow #35 should require more than the default strength 3 to use effectively. I don't really see a point to #20 bow outside of strength 2 or below. I like tradeoffs so I do agree that #35 is a a bit too meta OP, there should be a greater tradeoff so that it wouldn't outclass #20 in nearly every category.
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Deathwhisper Dec 23, 2023 @ 5:23pm 
Hello :),

The influence on shoes is much stronger than that on the self-made bow.
A self-made bow is a processed piece of wood. (You can even do a lot more.) It doesn't have to suffer as much as the shoes and therefore has very little wear.

When it comes to shoes, there are differences. Sturdy shoes, sports shoes, women's shoes, etc., all of which can withstand very different loads. Sports shoes are among the least resilient types of shoes if you plan to move large loads. They are particularly suitable for long journeys with very simple equipment on clear paths (i.e. not off the road).
Sturdy footwear such as hiking boots or military boots are much more durable. The material is durable and can withstand greater loads. However, that is always a matter of the relationship.

An example. With my character I have set a personal goal of never carrying more than 20kg of equipment. Only with major exceptions (this varies most in the armament, for example) does it go to 21 or 22kg of equipment.
Because I follow this weight maxim, my shoes, even boots with heels, are very durable even in rough terrain because I simply put hardly any load on them. Even sports shoes last significantly longer this way.
The maintenance costs are generally less expensive for me and I usually only notice significant wear after several kilometers of travel, where the boots have lost around 22-24% durability. I could reduce this even further if I avoided rough terrain, etc

So it makes a difference how much you carry, how fast, on what terrain. These are all factors that can have a negative impact on the shoes, in addition to regular wear and tear caused by the body's own weight. If you combine calculations here in a “basic calculation model example”, a person weighing 75kg carries equipment weighing 35kg (flat rate). This means that the total weight on the boots is already 110kg and all without movement. Shoes have to withstand a large amount of energies of different types and accordingly during hard physical activity such as survival, for example, shoes do not last very long and you have to take a lot of care for them.
Des Dec 23, 2023 @ 7:33pm 
Depends on the wood. But for the most part a Bow failing is more on the user/maker than the wood itself. Over drawing a bow can break a DIY bow. Shaving too much of slicing too hard can cause an arm to snap easily.

The bow in game is a solid branch not a Proper crafted bow. It's also corked at one end, Not good for bows. But it wouldn't snap easily at all, Esp not with it being that thick, Though you'd have to draw what looks like a 60ish lbs. TLDR Is good enough of a bow to not snap after use.
marktkm Dec 23, 2023 @ 8:26pm 
Just want to throw in here that it may just be a matter of the final balance and polish of the game hasn't been done yet. It's a fair thought, so you may want to post it over in the suggestions sub. They round up the ideas there.
CirceTheSiren Dec 24, 2023 @ 7:00am 
wait i heard something about woman shoes where are the recipes to craft some decent high heels even if they might spawn a hoard on me while using them or maybe just by trying to craft something.
Deathwhisper Dec 24, 2023 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by CirceTheSiren:
wait i heard something about woman shoes where are the recipes to craft some decent high heels even if they might spawn a hoard on me while using them or maybe just by trying to craft something.

they are to be found in the game world or purchased at the Outposts.
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