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vicbos Oct 11, 2023 @ 9:10am
Returning player tips?
So after taking a long break, some friends and I decided to return and try out some of the new features. All in all I still like the game but have the following thoughts/questions. Please note that we are playing on the RayKit 1.5 server so maybe some of the issues are related to specific server settings?
1. Death respawns: So still feels like the cost of dying in this game is really painful. Being such a large map, a random respawn location can result in a need to spend a huge amount of time running across the map to rejoin friends. As a result I've just been creating new toons till I find myself in a close grid (while losing all Fame Points) while friends do just respawn with the same toon but now have large negative $ balances.... One friend said he is tempted quit due to having ~-$2K negative balance.... Thoughts on best approaches? I'm new to the new $ respawn mechanic. Is it easy to get enough $ for a sector respawn at least?
2. Loot chances: Not sure the settings on RayKit 1.5 server but feels like we rarely find decent loot. We even hit the airfield military areas and got nothing (and died as a result as well). Is that normal now with the game? I can sense growing frustration with friends where they are tired of spending a lot of effort to loot a high risk area just to get some gloves and ammo.

Anyway, thoughts or recommendations?
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Deathwhisper Oct 11, 2023 @ 9:36am 
Hello :),

Permadeath is a consequence of too many deaths and too high a negative number on the account balance (-2500 on vanilla setting).
Under all circumstances, it is not advisable to respawn suicide to start in a similar sector because the consequences are huge in terms of permadeath alone.

Even if it sometimes seems like a huge journey, it doesn't take that long to reach the goal. Mark a midpoint between your positions so that you can meet there, so not only are you halfway there, but it usually works very well without having to accept too much loss. Caution and survival should always be kept in mind. If you plan well in advance and have a good route, the quicker everything will work out in the end. :)

Loot:

There isn't much loot if you use the vanilla settings. This is actually intentional because, like respawning and life on the island, the theme is survival. However, what you can find and what you can use anyway to have a certain arsenal is there in abundance. Stock up on bows, melee weapons, a basic shelter or other things at your leisure. After initial arming, police stations and villages as well as cities offer the opportunity to stock up on the essentials, be it clothing or other supplies.
Once you've set yourself up enough, you can think bigger and, for example, choose the bunkers as a target in order to get hold of a few useful things if necessary.
If you have manifested yourself well, even the abandoned bunkers are an attraction that you can try, although they are one of the biggest rides on the island at the moment.

Take your time establishing yourself on the island and build a solid foundation, from then on it will be a lot easier.
vicbos Oct 11, 2023 @ 9:41am 
Thanks. Regarding the respawn, if my understanding is correct, then my approach is actually the smarter one i.e. if just starting off (and not too much to lose), just create a new character/toon on the server when you die (and do so till you spawn close to the location you want) vs. respawning the same character and risk perma death anyway?
vicbos Oct 11, 2023 @ 9:44am 
How do the $ work --- as long as I have the $ in my inventory/account then I can use the $ to spawn per the option/location picked?
Deathwhisper Oct 11, 2023 @ 10:10am 
Originally posted by vicbos:
Thanks. Regarding the respawn, if my understanding is correct, then my approach is actually the smarter one i.e. if just starting off (and not too much to lose), just create a new character/toon on the server when you die (and do so till you spawn close to the location you want) vs. respawning the same character and risk perma death anyway?

It need quiet some time before Permadeath takes place. So Just meeting with each other is the most simple way anyway since you can just start playing already and on the way to your mates aquire already some basic gear making progress at all easyer.



Originally posted by vicbos:
How do the $ work --- as long as I have the $ in my inventory/account then I can use the $ to spawn per the option/location picked?

You need to have the cash on your Bank account, if you die and select random respawn it will cost 250* cash, Sector Respawn is already way more expensive with 1000* Cash while Spawn at your Bed is by default 1G (Means 1 unit of Gold).

* Do note, Values shown here are Default settings and can vary on Private Servers.

If you reach a certai nnegative amount of cash on your account permadeath will take place and you have to recreate the character. On Default it is -2500 as mentioned above.
NF Oct 11, 2023 @ 12:51pm 
0 or minus account balance you can only random respawn. I don't know what Ray's sector spawn price is, but I would just splat and take another random drop.
It seems they've made the new bunkers the new go-to.
If you're starting fresh dont bother with the armories yet. Get a bag full of meds, and alternators and your laughing.
Careful in Ray's bunkers, he's got them set touchy.

Good luck 👍
saiyuk976 Oct 11, 2023 @ 2:32pm 
As respawning now takes money from your bank account (I assume it was fame last you played) you need to get money into your bank account before you hit permadeath (-2500)

Fame is now tied to traders, you need higher fame for buying better items.
5 fame i think for access to food, 30 for clothing, hundreds for guns.
You get 1 fame for being in game every 20 mins. There are additional ways to gain fame, crafting bullets, bow head shot kills at about 150+ meters, my personal favorite is crafting gold locks for 2 fame (15 padlocks and toolbox needs adv engineering)

Getting cash into your account, you're supposed to be able to use the ATM to deposit cold hard cash from your inventory, but never worked for me any time I tried it. At trader, you can deposit inventory cash to your bank account, but the bank steals a bit (2% i think).

When using trader buy/sell there is a check box for choosing to use bank account or cash.
Buy with cash, sell to bank account, save that 2% for yourself.

What to sell, well, the list is long, anything you can find if low loot settings. Some things are more profitable than others.
NVGs, Ghillie Suits (pink in particular), Explosives, BMG rounds, Dao Sword/Katana, Motor Vehicles, Guns, BCU locks, to name a few, also medical gear can turn a reasonable profit and is light weight.

On normal servers the new Abandoned Bunkers final loot room is where all the loot is currently.
PepsiMontana Oct 11, 2023 @ 5:44pm 
What about if dies you may comeback from doktor in safezones for free or just pay a helicopter taxi to drop you at your gears?
Cezar Oct 12, 2023 @ 5:13am 
The revival in the sector in general should be removed a long time ago; it spoils the game.
serilium Oct 12, 2023 @ 5:59am 
sector spawns don`t spoil the game for most players, they have a useful function, i sometimes wonder why some people play the game when you consider what they complain about.
Cezar Oct 12, 2023 @ 6:16am 
Cheats are also a “useful function” for some. Which, by the way, kills the atmosphere of survival just as much as the revival in the sector. :)
Last edited by Cezar; Oct 12, 2023 @ 6:17am
Deathwhisper Oct 12, 2023 @ 6:20am 
Originally posted by Cezar:
Cheats are also a “useful function” for some. Which, by the way, kills the atmosphere of survival just as much as the revival in the sector. :)

Cheats are against the Rules while Sector spawn is a ability given from the game.(It can even be disabled in ServerSettings if you do not like it.) This is by no means a good comparison.
Cezar Oct 12, 2023 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Deathwhisper:
Originally posted by Cezar:
Cheats are also a “useful function” for some. Which, by the way, kills the atmosphere of survival just as much as the revival in the sector. :)

Cheats are against the Rules while Sector spawn is a ability given from the game.(It can even be disabled in ServerSettings if you do not like it.) This is by no means a good comparison.

Please, when you talk about the game you don't need to link to private servers. There is a standard - these are the settings of the official server. And we need to discuss the game based on these settings. (you can't turn anything off there)
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Date Posted: Oct 11, 2023 @ 9:10am
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