Dial lock

[ctrCat]

Heya. Where can I find a dial lock?

[Zerg]

Originally posted by Siamese:

Originally posted by Zerg:

Except lockpicking was literally what kept SCUM going. Players aspired to be good lockpickers, and yet they were always hard to find.

This will kill lockpicking for good and with it the game.

Ok this is a bit of a stretch. You can’t actually believe the game was being held up by lock picking.

Yes, yes it was.

This game has been held up by the raiding community that continues to play and support the game. Look at the top servers on battlemetrics: 9 out of 10 of them are PvP servers and all but two are high loot and/or bot shop servers.

The raiding mechanic is almost exclusively based around lockpicking. If you can't lockpick, you can't ever access wardrobes. Often when you're blasting into a base you still need to pick a few doors.

Lockpicking is the mechanic for stealing cars. Imagine now when everyone can protect their car with a combination lock, and players have to sit there and guess the combination. People won't do it, they'll just quit.

There is no skill to the combination lock mini game. It's pure random chance and brute force. Lockpicking was a skilled game and players aspired to be good at it.

[Hardwater]

Originally posted by Zerg:

Lockpicking was a skilled game and players aspired to be good at it.

Lockpicking is tedious and unrealistic, I don't think anyone involved in the development of the game has ever even attempted to pick a lock in real life. In real life the pick doesn't just snap itself after a certain amount of time. It should be based on the amount of pressure applied rather than some arbitrary amount of time.

[ctrCat]

I guess most indignant about digital locks are golden locks breakers with 3-5 attmpts, so my question is wtf this golden locks potecton for, if someone can master it above your predictable level, dear lock developers, adn this is not about some kinde of cheating it's just common enthusiasm and skillz. So we can just say they don't know how to balance lockpicking. And they don't know how to balance c4....1 kb card froe every member of clan 12/12 really? No really we defuze zombies

[MeanStreak]

Originally posted by Zerg:

Originally posted by D Ķ į η ğ ټ BerLineR:

yes, its lootable in military boxes
this feature is the end of scum

For real. This is the end of SCUm no doubt.

Players can put 3 dial locks on a prefab door with advanced shocker. NO ONE is going to sit there and guess 3x random 1/1000 numbers. And you don't even need to remember the code. You can just open the door like normal and remove the lock, change the code without even knowing the previous code.

And nobody said you have to? It's a survival game not a raiding game.

[CrankyOldMan]

Originally posted by AzhalveK:

Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:

Seriously I have advanced engineering and it's not in the menu and I went to the general goods trader and it's not their either but as an admin I can spawn them wtf!

Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:

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They can blast their way through the walls.
This is a play balance now to make raiding harder! It takes hours even days to craft a base but minutes to LP your way through now it evens it out some.

Administrative controls in the first message
Talk about balance in the second post.
You made me die laughing...

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I was talking about not being able to craft with advanced engineering or able to purchase the dial lock. But found that they added the admin spawnitem for the dial lock.
I as of yet have not found a dial lock in game .
I did not say I spawned one I said I can.
I admin two servers and I play on an official!
So go hate some where else!

[Siamese]

Originally posted by Zerg:

Originally posted by Siamese:

Ok this is a bit of a stretch. You can’t actually believe the game was being held up by lock picking.

Yes, yes it was.

This game has been held up by the raiding community that continues to play and support the game. Look at the top servers on battlemetrics: 9 out of 10 of them are PvP servers and all but two are high loot and/or bot shop servers.

The raiding mechanic is almost exclusively based around lockpicking. If you can't lockpick, you can't ever access wardrobes. Often when you're blasting into a base you still need to pick a few doors.

Lockpicking is the mechanic for stealing cars. Imagine now when everyone can protect their car with a combination lock, and players have to sit there and guess the combination. People won't do it, they'll just quit.

There is no skill to the combination lock mini game. It's pure random chance and brute force. Lockpicking was a skilled game and players aspired to be good at it.

Ok but it sounds like you think this is a base raiding game. You do understand that its actually not right? I mean you must realize this is a whole game that has no intention of holding base building/raiding at its core. It's been said over and over and over again over the years.

This group of people you are referring to (raiders and pickers) that are keeping the game going are playing the game based on its more rudimentary systems. Its PVE focused survival game that is under construction, not a completed pvp battle royal game. The PVP elements are just the first ones implemented. They aren't the basis for the game.

So no, pickers have little if anything to do with holding the game together. In fact i would go as far as to say this significant nerf to picking will likely cause the population to grow over time rather than shrink.

[^DreeMax^]

Please be respectful and stay on topic.

[Red River]

Originally posted by Grinch843:

I'am thinking they are a lootable item only.

they disabled loot so good luck with that. maybe you can buy from traders. seem to be only way to get anything after this patch...

[Grinch843]

Originally posted by Siamese:

Ok but it sounds like you think this is a base raiding game. You do understand that its actually not right? I mean you must realize this is a whole game that has no intention of holding base building/raiding at its core. It's been said over and over and over again over the years.

This group of people you are referring to (raiders and pickers) that are keeping the game going are playing the game based on its more rudimentary systems. Its PVE focused survival game that is under construction, not a completed pvp battle royal game. The PVP elements are just the first ones implemented. They aren't the basis for the game.

So no, pickers have little if anything to do with holding the game together. In fact i would go as far as to say this significant nerf to picking will likely cause the population to grow over time rather than shrink.

THIS ^^^^

[CrankyOldMan]

Originally posted by Red River:

Originally posted by Grinch843:

I'am thinking they are a lootable item only.

they disabled loot so good luck with that. maybe you can buy from traders. seem to be only way to get anything after this patch...

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i checked the traders don't have them.

[Jimwaa]

Totally agree the lock is bull****. If you set up in a prefab building, say one with a bathroom and three doors to get to it, that's 9 dial locks plus advanced lock pro to get to it. Can't blow your way in. Absolutely ridiculous. Needs to be removed. And that's before you start on the whack fatigue system. Our whole squad been lying down looking at the stars and singing camp fire songs for the past half hour. It's a game - you killed the fun.

[MeanStreak]

Originally posted by Jimwaa:

Totally agree the lock is bull****. If you set up in a prefab building, say one with a bathroom and three doors to get to it, that's 9 dial locks plus advanced lock pro to get to it. Can't blow your way in. Absolutely ridiculous. Needs to be removed. And that's before you start on the whack fatigue system. Our whole squad been lying down looking at the stars and singing camp fire songs for the past half hour. It's a game - you killed the fun.

It's a game yes, not a raiding game though.

[space-spelunker]

Originally posted by Jimwaa:

Our whole squad been lying down looking at the stars and singing camp fire songs for the past half hour.

LMAO. Dying…

[fatesdeath]

Originally posted by Zerg:

Originally posted by D Ķ į η ğ ټ BerLineR:

yes, its lootable in military boxes
this feature is the end of scum

For real. This is the end of SCUm no doubt.

Players can put 3 dial locks on a prefab door with advanced shocker. NO ONE is going to sit there and guess 3x random 1/1000 numbers. And you don't even need to remember the code. You can just open the door like normal and remove the lock, change the code without even knowing the previous code.

its okay we know your SUPER mad that you cant just run through someones base they spent HOURS on for you to walk through it
because you spent time on a crappy mechanic =)

time for you to stop playing scum i guess, or do you have the scum addiciton too?

[CrankyOldMan]

Originally posted by Jimwaa:

Totally agree the lock is bull****. If you set up in a prefab building, say one with a bathroom and three doors to get to it, that's 9 dial locks plus advanced lock pro to get to it. Can't blow your way in. Absolutely ridiculous. Needs to be removed. And that's before you start on the whack fatigue system. Our whole squad been lying down looking at the stars and singing camp fire songs for the past half hour. It's a game - you killed the fun.

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The game was not balanced, it was way too much time to put together locks, chests and then a way to long to secure them, than it was to find some screwdrivers and bobby pins and go through the locks like a hot knife through butter-not to mention the players that use macros to lock pick.
Your game play style needs to change. No more run and gun!
Yes the fatigue needs to be tweaking they come in hard on everything and then dial it back from the feed back, they already said as much from the hand abrasions.
I looted the entire boot camp and I then needed 5 minutes of being still and my fatigue went away.
If you walk you are ok, if you jog, run, melee fight you are exerting yourself and therefore getting tired so it makes sense to have some fatigue in the game requiring downtime-it just needs balancing like everything else they add in.