lighter use?

[Lyn]

i never really got to understand what do we need a lighter for? same for the matches or the flint and steel... i mean they don't have a unique animation when you start a fire... they are just having different amount of uses and at the end of the day i never felt the need for grabbing one when the fire drill just takes 2 sticks to craft one and does the same with also same space as 1 feather..

[Dies Fourth]

lighters take less space
If your in the city and want to light off fireworks you find and theres no sticks around you can use the lghter
overall lighters are more convienant and alot faster

[Lyn]

Originally posted by Dies Fourth:

lighters take less space
If your in the city and want to light off fireworks you find and theres no sticks around you can use the lghter
overall lighters are more convienant and alot faster

Faster? No they all act the same.. maybe you get more uses and that's something but even inside the city there are sticks that you can cut but sure if you have s full inventory full of fireworks a lighter is more convenient which is something that none gets in any case

[CrankyOldMan]

You will soon understand the need for that lighter when they get some stuff fixed and you need to stand next to a fire to get rid of your hypothermia.
When you need to cook your fish not eat it raw.
Some things in the game now have little use but will in the future.

[Dies Fourth]

Originally posted by Lyn:

Originally posted by Dies Fourth:

lighters take less space
If your in the city and want to light off fireworks you find and theres no sticks around you can use the lghter
overall lighters are more convienant and alot faster

Faster? No they all act the same.. maybe you get more uses and that's something but even inside the city there are sticks that you can cut but sure if you have s full inventory full of fireworks a lighter is more convenient which is something that none gets in any case

if your mind was already made up why even ask ?

if 2 people are standing next to each other looking at 2 different bonfires and some1 says " go " 1 person lights it with the lighter, the other looks 4 a bush to cut down

do i really need to go on ?

If you need a fire NOW or cant make alot of noise a lighter is indeed faster

If you need to start that fire in the snow cuz you that close to death from freezing a lighter is faster

ya know what, ♥♥♥♥ it, your right, your always gonna be right, lighters suck

i am SO over trying to help new players in this game

[Lyn]

Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:

You will soon understand the need for that lighter when they get some stuff fixed and you need to stand next to a fire to get rid of your hypothermia.
When you need to cook your fish not eat it raw.
Some things in the game now have little use but will in the future.

ow about that i am waiting for it since the first post on their twitter but no luck with that yet.. but even that being the case i still find the fire drill op... maybe removing the fire drill from the game would make players appreciate the lighter a bit more as well as matches or flint and steel.. or maybe making fire drill unable to start a fire with bad weather conditions.. maybe increase the time it needs to start a fire with the fire drill? currently its equal to the time a lighter starts a fire which is very weird

[Beda]

Well lighter as you noticed has higher usage than fire drill and uses less space to carry it. Later on when you will set off pipe bombs and start cooking you will see the advantages of the lighter.

[Lyn]

Originally posted by Beda:

Well lighter as you noticed has higher usage than fire drill and uses less space to carry it. Later on when you will set off pipe bombs and start cooking you will see the advantages of the lighter.

i still find it more efficient to use my 1 extra slot to carry something that i cannot find literally every 2 meters... i still believe you guys gave the fire drill a very cheap cost including a very fast use compared to lighter or matches or even flint and steel... i mean literally the only difference between all the fire starting sources is the capacity of uses each one has.... even with the cooking rework it wont take me more than 1 40-50 sec to pull out my knife and chop down some grass and use these 2 sticks to make a fire drill and use it to start a fire

my points being.. for SCUM which is a survival game that its goal is to achieve realistic psychics... if i currently took away your vision on the inventory and i asked you... what item am i starting a fire with at the moment? am i using a fire drill? a lighter? matches? or flint and steel? you wouldn't have the slightest idea on what's going on.. i would 100% prefer to only have matches in the game that i can see my character do a spark animation or maybe a flint and steel to watch him slide down the flint into the steel to bring out some sparks to light a fire than whatever that is currently and if for any reason each one had a unique animation? for me it would be like a dream come true about SCUM and i really hope one day this game achieves this

[Dies Fourth]

Originally posted by Lyn:

Originally posted by Beda:

Well lighter as you noticed has higher usage than fire drill and uses less space to carry it. Later on when you will set off pipe bombs and start cooking you will see the advantages of the lighter.

i still find it more efficient to use my 1 extra slot to carry something that i cannot find literally every 2 meters... i still believe you guys gave the fire drill a very cheap cost including a very fast use compared to lighter or matches or even flint and steel... i mean literally the only difference between all the fire starting sources is the capacity of uses each one has.... even with the cooking rework it wont take me more than 1 40-50 sec to pull out my knife and chop down some grass and use these 2 sticks to make a fire drill and use it to start a fire

my points being.. for SCUM which is a survival game that its goal is to achieve realistic psychics... if i currently took away your vision on the inventory and i asked you... what item am i starting a fire with at the moment? am i using a fire drill? a lighter? matches? or flint and steel? you wouldn't have the slightest idea on what's going on.. i would 100% prefer to only have matches in the game that i can see my character do a spark animation or maybe a flint and steel to watch him slide down the flint into the steel to bring out some sparks to light a fire than whatever that is currently and if for any reason each one had a unique animation? for me it would be like a dream come true about SCUM and i really hope one day this game achieves this

lemme guess, your in a SP game with all the time in the world right ?

not boosted puppets behind every BUSH that will hear every sound you make.

No other players listening for the sound to kill you.

your only playing YOUR game not every game under every circumstance. So naturally whats best for you MUST be best for everyone right .....

realistic anything isnt the ONLY goal of the game, theres always a bigger picture even if you think yours must be the only one

[Lyn]

Originally posted by Dies Fourth:

Originally posted by Lyn:

i still find it more efficient to use my 1 extra slot to carry something that i cannot find literally every 2 meters... i still believe you guys gave the fire drill a very cheap cost including a very fast use compared to lighter or matches or even flint and steel... i mean literally the only difference between all the fire starting sources is the capacity of uses each one has.... even with the cooking rework it wont take me more than 1 40-50 sec to pull out my knife and chop down some grass and use these 2 sticks to make a fire drill and use it to start a fire

my points being.. for SCUM which is a survival game that its goal is to achieve realistic psychics... if i currently took away your vision on the inventory and i asked you... what item am i starting a fire with at the moment? am i using a fire drill? a lighter? matches? or flint and steel? you wouldn't have the slightest idea on what's going on.. i would 100% prefer to only have matches in the game that i can see my character do a spark animation or maybe a flint and steel to watch him slide down the flint into the steel to bring out some sparks to light a fire than whatever that is currently and if for any reason each one had a unique animation? for me it would be like a dream come true about SCUM and i really hope one day this game achieves this

lemme guess, your in a SP game with all the time in the world right ?

not boosted puppets behind every BUSH that will hear every sound you make.

No other players listening for the sound to kill you.

your only playing YOUR game not every game under every circumstance. So naturally whats best for you MUST be best for everyone right .....

realistic anything isnt the ONLY goal of the game, theres always a bigger picture even if you think yours must be the only one

if you think i am the kind of player that just logged into SCUM day 1 and just run single player try to start a fire and see this situation and be disapointed? you're highly mistaken.. yes some stuff are good from fantasy side but not everything... how would you like your food to be consumed without any animation mate? would you like your character to just consume everything like you put a coin in a vending machine? how would you like to see your character instead of opening and closing doors to get into the car to just be teleport into the driver sit? see my point of view now maybe? Sure they don't have to do it but when they skip such things it feels less appealing to the player
As for my experience i will have you know i am here since a few months after SCUM first came out... and stuff like that and stuff like bolts and nails 5 years later into the game still not stacking up is something that makes players feel disappointed

[CrankyOldMan]

Originally posted by Dies Fourth:

Originally posted by Lyn:

Faster? No they all act the same.. maybe you get more uses and that's something but even inside the city there are sticks that you can cut but sure if you have s full inventory full of fireworks a lighter is more convenient which is something that none gets in any case

if your mind was already made up why even ask ?

if 2 people are standing next to each other looking at 2 different bonfires and some1 says " go " 1 person lights it with the lighter, the other looks 4 a bush to cut down

do i really need to go on ?

If you need a fire NOW or cant make alot of noise a lighter is indeed faster

If you need to start that fire in the snow cuz you that close to death from freezing a lighter is faster

ya know what, ♥♥♥♥ it, your right, your always gonna be right, lighters suck

i am SO over trying to help new players in this game

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