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I just think this isn't the right way and I would be happy to be able to deactivate it and I still think it's unrealistic tbh.
But those convois would be sick and I would say if they use convois to refill it, then it would be acceptable if they install electric locks with EC-Card slot.
Second, yes the traders were JUST PUT THERE. Its not like they're reformed prisoners or something.
Third...yes i pump and pay at the pump in my part of the RL world. The gas won't pump until i pay and its all electronic and i never set foot inside the gas station. So from my perspective this is totally normal.
Forth the game isn't done yet. So convoys of soldiers going to fill gas stations isn't by any means out of the question by the time we hit Vs. 1.
Paying for gas is balancing factor in the game that was long over due. I helps create more risk around the powerful mobility that the vehicles offer.
The implementation of paying with creditcards on an remote and abandoned Island on gassatations out of an era from 50 years ago is so loughingly idiotic, it is just way beyond any reasons.
Its in fact so stupid to me, I just spawn my cars.
And when the tank needs refilling i just spawn canisters and throw them into the bushes afterwards. Or spawn a new vehicle.
And the consumption of the vehicles is really off the charts.
You supply a Island with water facilities on the Island, there is literally no real remote Island that gets remote supllied via pipes with water, even Islands like malorca, madagascar or any other one pruduces their water locally because it would be ridicoulusly expensive to build a pipe from the nearest port on land all the way through the ocean to the Island, especially just for water and btw the whole Island isn't supplied with water, you have old manuall water pumps everywhere and every toilett or sink doesn't work xD
I don't know where you live but petrol vending machines how they're called are extremely rare and mostly used for transport companies and there for diesel. not for normal gas like it's used in the bikes and the new cars but anyways maybe you life in japan where such things are allready common but in any other country they're so rare that I couldn't find anything about them, but sure of course this Island has the peak of gas station technology vending systems, its renown for being the industry standard in technology.
I allready said THAT I DON'T CRITIZE THE GAME FOR NOT BEING DONE, I CRITIZE IT FOR HAVING STUPID UNREALISTIC MECHANICS BEFORE USEFULL ONES and if you have an explenation for this mechanic you should firstly add the explanation or make a whole Update which is around the money and car system not randomly wipe everything and implement a unbalanced, unrealistic system which gets removed after a few months.
I understand that this is a balancing measure, what should it be if not that? But it's stupid, you can hoard vehicles like before, you just need to buy one canister and then you can just refill one car, drive it to the base, refill the can with the remaining fuel and get another one plus the only thing this mechanic does is be a pain in the ass for SP and in multiplayer force a two class system where squads own everything.
Edit: Plus this feature makes absolutely zero sense because you can still find 100 % full gas cans all around the world if you search for them.
It doesn't matter how common electronic gas pumps are around the world RIGHT NOW...because the game doesn't take place RIGHT NOW....but in the FUTURE.
I don't know what you are talking about with pipes to the island. I never said that. A ship could dock at a pier and pump gasoline into a system that distributes it around the island. There is a refinery connected by rail to a ship yard. They could offload crude oil and refine it on the island for all we know.
As for water on islands....most islands just pump it out of the ground actually. The island itself acts as a natural filter for the sea water making it drinkable. This is true for most small islands in the world. So yeah i never said anything related to shipping water to an island.
The balance is in the risk of having a bank card on you while you drive around. If you're killed someone can potentially steal all your money. It is this increased risk that is where the balance lies and not in the area of car hording as you mentioned.
Secondly, the devs themself say it's the NEAR FUTURE, which means a few years so a look at the world today is a good indicator especialy if the Island is so backward like this.
The refilling problem I also mentioned 4 cooments ago is stupid, it would be way to complicated to refill gas on a remote Island with zombies everywhere and I don't think that TEC 01 which lost every local facility on the Island wants to go there again just for refilling something which the prisoners could use to escape.
Again you yourself mentoined car hoarding as one of the problems this change wanted to address, now, "I never mentoined it." interesting. But to your point with the card. What is the difference between having to carry around cash to a card in this matter? If I die my money is gone and if everything a card with a PIN code makes the money theft more difficult because the small cards are useless even to steal and the big one is relativly secure and you already have to carry around the money if you want to go to a trader or anything like that and, as far as I know the money hoarding is not a big issue since that stuff respawns like crazy and even the gas station system will not change a thing for big squads which is the only argument for this system.
Near future could be 50 years from now...and again...mechs so not a couple years as you say...not even close. Its silly to even debate that.
Refilling gas pumps would be no more complicated than refilling your car. You just slaughter puppets and go about your day. You actually think tech 1 would not have this ability?
My comment about pipes was in response to how you transport gas around the island...i replied like water in a city...through pipes. Gasoline and water can travel the same way so there's no reason you couldn't distribute gasoline from a central location to all the stations underground its 100% feasible and logical.
Adding reasons to carry a card makes sense. risking a few dollars isn't remotely close to the same thing as risking your whole bank balance. Before this you'd have to be out of your mind to even consider leaving a safe zone with a bank card....now you have a reason to do it...that is what balance looks like.
Sorry if you don't like having to buy gas with a card but you havn't made any real logical arguments here against it. Its perfectly logical and reasonable not only in the context of game lore but in the context of the real world. People pay for gas using cards ...its a thing and it will only be more of a thing into the future which is where the game takes place....in the future.....not next year or in 2019 but in a future distant enough to have BCUs and giant robots that talk.
Near future isn't 50 + years, that's rediculous to say, near future is max 10-15 years, not a half decade lmao. It plays in a alternative timeline, where the top 10 % rule the world and they would have the money to brute force mechs and NOTHING refers to the game playing in 2070 like you say, NOTHING! Not the cars, not the weapons, not the overall technology or the infrastructure, besides the mechs which aren't build on this Island, it's all the opposite, near undifined future is a story telling device so you could think it's happening some day in a few years to add some spice and not a clear thing which proves unrealistic things on it's own and it's not that late.
TEC 01 would have the capibility, I already said that BUT WHY SHOULD THEY, HELLO IS ANYONE THERE, I ALREADY SAID IT 3 TIMES, the refilling of gas stations is an unessesary risk and they already lost all their local hidouts, that's what I said 1000 times at this moment, as well as, I think that would be cool, but it isn't in the game for ♥♥♥♥ sake, so this isn't a proving point.
You're response wasn't about that because if it was you responded to my comments without once reading through it, since I explicitly stated supplying a whole Island with water and gas and this comment was like 2 lines long, so you had to read this and your response would make literally zero sense because why would you even bother explaining it if it was referring to supplying one city, this would be so obvious that pipes are used for this, that you wouldn't need to write that.
Your card argument doesn't answer or debatts anything I wrote in that regard, I said, whats the difference between having to use money or the card which is like I said safer because the cards that really hurt are secured via a PIN code and get locked if you try to often, which isn't really more risky, especially because your bank account is connected so you could use a gold card in a safe zone for adding stuff and starter cards for getting fuels since their limit is 200 bucks and that wouldn't hurt really. And what you also didn't answer was the point that you already have to leave your base with money if you want to trade, which could be really expensive.
<-- But this all is 100 % irrelevant given to the fact that this is a discussion about the fact that I have to insert a card at a 50 year old gas station, from todays perspective, in order to use it, while nobody cares about or owns this station and they're even today a rarity. I like the card system on it's own, just not the gas station in that regard.
The only argument that you bring is "I tHiNk ThiS PlAyS In 50 + YeArS" without any prove, many agreed with me, that at least the technology on the Island isn't at least nearly up to date and near future is defenitely not half a decade and this is your whole point against my original statement. BTW robots that talk, they say like 3 sentences which are programmed into them, its not like they're walking ChatGPTs lmao and there are already some robots out there, believe it or not and in a fictional near future, in a game with wealthy componies as the government in a game, it's plausible that there are mechs in 5 years especially with that pace we have today and even if it plays in 2000 years this Island IS BACKWARDS, the technology is old and out dated even today.
And you mentioned hoarding indirect in one of your comments with the statement that the card insertion is a feature to make mentaining and using of cars more challenging which is clearly referring the hoarding of cars and the depleating appreciation of mobility, but sure you didn't mention that at all.
Dev already chimed in with all the reason you'll ever need to hear.
Accept and move on, You'll live.
I think it would be better to add a key needed to use the car and a claim system, so one player can only have a certain amount of cars and bikes, because the balancing of prices and fuel is way to complicated and the technology of this Island is just to old for that to make sense in my opinion.