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Duchess Pebblina Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:15pm
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Abrasions are not realistic.
First my characters would bleed to death while walking barefoot on a boat raft and sand now they are getting hand abrasions and injuries after crafting and uncrafting bundles of short sticks and there are injuries from crawling on the ground. This is not realistic at all.
Being exaggerated for gameplay reasons would not make sense either.

Can the developers please understand that there is a clear line between "hardcore" difficulty and realism? Just because a game has punishing mechanics for the smallest things does not mean it is realism, that is just increasing the difficulty.

The problem is not the rate at which abrasions happen it is the fact that they exist in the way they do. So if the issue gets addressed, lowering the abrasion rate does not fix the actual problem.
I never in my life heard about someone getting hand injuries from crawling on the ground, let alone happening in the woods or in an urban environment hat was not literally pile of scarp metal..
Hand abrasions should not happen when crafting with sticks; or crawling on the ground at all with the exceptions of nail traps and sharp debris. Same goes for the feet.

Just think about this . If humans got injuries such as these so easily then they would not have been able to survive their earlier lives. Humans are primates that thrived for thousands of generation while being completely naked which picking and crafting tools with their environment. Also to this day half a billion people on earth don't even wear shoes and 15 million or so still function as traditional hunter gather societies that do just fine.
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OmegaMan Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:25pm 
omg cutting a pile cloth into rags with a pair of Scissors got me C2 abrasions
MrFluffyBottoms (Banned) Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:34pm 
I got c2 abrasions from picking up bricks and putting them in a metal chest....used a phoenix tear and the c2 came back?!?! DEVS FIX THIS. who's bloody idea was this anyways? FIRE THEM!
CrankyOldMan Feb 14, 2023 @ 3:35pm 
I have winter gloves on from a cold spawn in and I crawl on the ground for like 2-3 minutes and get an abrasion
smokey57 Feb 14, 2023 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:
I have winter gloves on from a cold spawn in and I crawl on the ground for like 2-3 minutes and get an abrasion
I was going to play some today, but all of these revelations about the utterly stupid hand injury mechanics have convinced me not too. Might get terminal injuries from the steering wheel, just sightseeing around the island. Will wait for the hot-mess-fix.
Last edited by smokey57; Feb 14, 2023 @ 4:15pm
Cloud9Cris Feb 14, 2023 @ 5:25pm 
I was excited for this update so I started a new world and then my character started dying from C2 hand abrasions. If you try to cut up rags to heal you get more bleeding making it worse. Whoever came up with hand abrasions just made the game tedious and starting fresh sucks now. Crafting was also relaxing and chill but now its just annoying. I'm not playing until they fix it.
Bunitj Feb 14, 2023 @ 5:25pm 
I am wearing fingerless gloves that are 93% repaired and basically instantly got abrasions on the hands from a wheelbarrow. If gloves don't protects against abrasions what is the point of gloves and also of the mechanic?


*Edit - I just made bandages and then had to use my bandages on my hands because I hurt my self so badly making bandages.

**Edit - I just got a C2 abrasion from eating a Zucchini... Yeah I think this might need to be patched out until fixed, I might log off until then, this is just rough.
Last edited by Bunitj; Feb 14, 2023 @ 6:00pm
CrankyOldMan Feb 14, 2023 @ 6:14pm 
Originally posted by smokey57:
Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:
I have winter gloves on from a cold spawn in and I crawl on the ground for like 2-3 minutes and get an abrasion
I was going to play some today, but all of these revelations about the utterly stupid hand injury mechanics have convinced me not too. Might get terminal injuries from the steering wheel, just sightseeing around the island. Will wait for the hot-mess-fix.
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Good thing they haven't implemented sex in the game yet ie using your hands or players would always have hand abrasions.
Devs chill it like more than half on the hand abrasions zeez!
smokey57 Feb 14, 2023 @ 6:32pm 
Originally posted by Bunitj:
**Edit - I just got a C2 abrasion from eating a Zucchini...
Good thing you didn't stick it in your... /me tosses purple wang as far away into the woods as possible
macfire19 Feb 14, 2023 @ 7:04pm 
I just got C2 hand abrasions while wearing driving gloves cause I rowed a boat for literally 30 seconds...and cutting a shirt into rags made it almost reach C3. So I used 4 rags and it's half healed -.- so I had to cut more rags, which turned it into C3 of course.

And then searching anything for loot when in the recovery phase tells you to be careful with your injuries, despite the recovery phase specifically saying "Strenuous activities won't cause recovering conditions to revert to previous phases."
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macfire19 Feb 14, 2023 @ 7:22pm 
What's funnier, is drinking water from a river with your hands doesn't get your hands/gloves wet. But crafting anything or using any hand-drawn vehicles instantly causes severe bleeding that will lead to death if not treated within 5 minutes? I know the idea was "make it more realistic" but this is not how you do it lol
MENDO Feb 14, 2023 @ 7:22pm 
Remove it from the game fast as possible! Worst feature ever.
Shade)(Astra Feb 14, 2023 @ 7:56pm 
PLEASE stop adding unnecessarily complicated and unrealistic BS like this. My character is bleeding to death after pushing a wheelbarrow about 100 meters while wearing gloves. WHY?? SCUM is complicated enough without having to worry about crap like bleeding out from hand abrasions.
macfire19 Feb 14, 2023 @ 8:09pm 
OMG you can't even gather rocks without getting C1 abrasions when wearing gloves. And if you ignore it and gather 5 rock piles, you take 2 damage before you're done.
Last edited by macfire19; Feb 14, 2023 @ 8:09pm
macfire19 Feb 14, 2023 @ 8:12pm 
Obviously, whoever's job it was to test it had it dialed up to make sure things can trigger, but forgot to dial it back down to *normal* amounts, and they pushed an update where people bleed to death from literally any action except opening doors (at least, I assume doors are fine)
The_Gump Feb 14, 2023 @ 9:03pm 
Abrasions are currently exaggerated so they can quickly see that the new mechanic works at all levels of damage (C1, C2 etc etc)

Expect it to do toned down with a hotfix once they know its works properly.

WE are the testers in a Early Access game.
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