Boats and Flip

[Jack Jester]

Motor boats flip extremely quickly. After that you can still drive, just with head down.
You don't drown, but the boat can't flip back itself. The flip problem also arises with increasing speed in calm seas.
Is there a command to flip the boat back?

[Bluetonic47]

boat's are some what wonky now ye , my boat is 4ft under the water so I had to strip off jump in & enter boat like real pro !!

[Sleepwalker]

Originally posted by Jack Jester:

Motor boats flip extremely quickly. After that you can still drive, just with head down.
You don't drown, but the boat can't flip back itself. The flip problem also arises with increasing speed in calm seas.
Is there a command to flip the boat back?

same here

[CheeseKing]

Hey, we are aware of this issue. It's being fixed, thank you for the report.

[Jack Jester]

Originally posted by CheeseKing:

Hey, we are aware of this issue. It's being fixed, thank you for the report.

Have now tested several times and always the same result. The motorboat reacts far too sensitively. Sometimes even without waves. It seems that the motorboat is just too light, such a boat weighs and is much more stable in the water, that's how they are built.
But as I said sometimes it starts to wobble more and more and intensifies extremely until you stop the boat for a while. It's pure luck if you make it to the other shore.

Wolfwagon, i love it but only pushing forward is not enough. Sometimes if you want to push the car out of a garage, it gets stuck because of the open door. Then only one thing helps if there is no other door... Suicide. You can't get out of it and you can't push thge car back.

*wave*

[CheeseKing]

Originally posted by Jack Jester:

Originally posted by CheeseKing:

Hey, we are aware of this issue. It's being fixed, thank you for the report.

Have now tested several times and always the same result. The motorboat reacts far too sensitively. Sometimes even without waves. It seems that the motorboat is just too light, such a boat weighs and is much more stable in the water, that's how they are built.
But as I said sometimes it starts to wobble more and more and intensifies extremely until you stop the boat for a while. It's pure luck if you make it to the other shore.

Wolfwagon, i love it but only pushing forward is not enough. Sometimes if you want to push the car out of a garage, it gets stuck because of the open door. Then only one thing helps if there is no other door... Suicide. You can't get out of it and you can't push thge car back.

*wave*

Yeah we are aware, working on all the issues. Hopefully both flip & push will be ready in the upcoming week.

[moyer4487]

My boat bounces for and aft and side to side sitting still in a calm river. The moment I hit the gas the bouncing. Flipping, and submarine is far worse. All hell breaks loose when I drive boats. I don't even try anymore

[Krixa]

Until this gets fixed....maybe in between before and now.

I have good success at Angles to the waves. Calm water I have no issues in either 1st or 3rd person. We do need 3-4 speeds for Throttle Control.

**I don't boat or fish in real life....but I did some research...and in game. Seems the Devs are fairly close....with some small issues.

Directly Into Waves: Easy to flip or get out of control quickly.
Note: If you watch any boating vids on how to navigate with waves...mostly ocean fishing and such....you will find that NEVER directly into waves and always angle and throttle control to the waves to roll.

Directly With Waves: Decent but also sort of an issue.
Note: Since we don't have throttle control....this can also be an issue in game. It would be nice if the Devs gave us 3-4 throttle speeds....that would make riding with the waves easily possible.

[Jack Jester]

Originally posted by Krixa:

Until this gets fixed....maybe in between before and now.

I have good success at Angles to the waves. Calm water I have no issues in either 1st or 3rd person. We do need 3-4 speeds for Throttle Control.

**I don't boat or fish in real life....but I did some research...and in game. Seems the Devs are fairly close....with some small issues.

Directly Into Waves: Easy to flip or get out of control quickly.
Note: If you watch any boating vids on how to navigate with waves...mostly ocean fishing and such....you will find that NEVER directly into waves and always angle and throttle control to the waves to roll.

Directly With Waves: Decent but also sort of an issue.
Note: Since we don't have throttle control....this can also be an issue in game. It would be nice if the Devs gave us 3-4 throttle speeds....that would make riding with the waves easily possible.

I worked 15 years in the German Navy as a boat builder. The motorboat wobbles far too much and sometimes completely uncontrolled. It has nothing to do with the waves. The center of gravity of the boat is too high, in addition, the boot reacts as if it were far too light.
Sometimes it shakes extremely even when the sea is calm, so bad that it even escalated unexpectedly.

[CheeseKing]

Originally posted by Jack Jester:

Originally posted by Krixa:

Until this gets fixed....maybe in between before and now.

I have good success at Angles to the waves. Calm water I have no issues in either 1st or 3rd person. We do need 3-4 speeds for Throttle Control.

**I don't boat or fish in real life....but I did some research...and in game. Seems the Devs are fairly close....with some small issues.

Directly Into Waves: Easy to flip or get out of control quickly.
Note: If you watch any boating vids on how to navigate with waves...mostly ocean fishing and such....you will find that NEVER directly into waves and always angle and throttle control to the waves to roll.

Directly With Waves: Decent but also sort of an issue.
Note: Since we don't have throttle control....this can also be an issue in game. It would be nice if the Devs gave us 3-4 throttle speeds....that would make riding with the waves easily possible.

I worked 15 years in the German Navy as a boat builder. The motorboat wobbles far too much and sometimes completely uncontrolled. It has nothing to do with the waves. The center of gravity of the boat is too high, in addition, the boot reacts as if it were far too light.
Sometimes it shakes extremely even when the sea is calm, so bad that it even escalated unexpectedly.

This is the current physics for the boat, it is work in progress. Thank for the feedback!

[Abowlofkimchi]

Video proof (cr: one of the guys on my server): https://youtu.be/BK7Ctc7WXXM

[Jack Jester]

Originally posted by CheeseKing:

Originally posted by Jack Jester:

I worked 15 years in the German Navy as a boat builder. The motorboat wobbles far too much and sometimes completely uncontrolled. It has nothing to do with the waves. The center of gravity of the boat is too high, in addition, the boot reacts as if it were far too light.
Sometimes it shakes extremely even when the sea is calm, so bad that it even escalated unexpectedly.

This is the current physics for the boat, it is work in progress. Thank for the feedback!

Said the center of gravity is exactly there with a motor boat like a seesaw. If you move this point a little lower and further back, it should work. Someone is sitting in the back, plus the engine that moves the center of gravity of a boat.

And you don't always have to say thank you, even if I think it's nice. It is in my interest that the game develops further. I'm still a seaman at heart and I love ships and boats... and Scum.

*wave*

[serilium]

so now we have an improvised sub in the game.

[Baz]

I think the .7 vehicles physics were pretty darn good. It was fun to drive (although the motorcycles felt a bit too responsive perhaps) I hope they can be at least recreated with the new system once they get it all patched up.

[Skar]

Originally posted by CheeseKing:

Originally posted by Jack Jester:

Have now tested several times and always the same result. The motorboat reacts far too sensitively. Sometimes even without waves. It seems that the motorboat is just too light, such a boat weighs and is much more stable in the water, that's how they are built.
But as I said sometimes it starts to wobble more and more and intensifies extremely until you stop the boat for a while. It's pure luck if you make it to the other shore.

Wolfwagon, i love it but only pushing forward is not enough. Sometimes if you want to push the car out of a garage, it gets stuck because of the open door. Then only one thing helps if there is no other door... Suicide. You can't get out of it and you can't push thge car back.

*wave*

Yeah we are aware, working on all the issues. Hopefully both flip & push will be ready in the upcoming week.

Two years and counting...

[Jolie Rouge]

Originally posted by Skar:

Originally posted by CheeseKing:

Yeah we are aware, working on all the issues. Hopefully both flip & push will be ready in the upcoming week.

Two years and counting...

Slept over some updates? We have flip and push for a while now.