I dunno about these ATM Cards

[Maviard IV]

I dont know how I feel about your ATM card able to be stolen and your money drained from your account, especially since money is specifically tied to respawns. My concern is how this affects new players, and I feel this will turn the player base even more toxic. ATM and Safezone camping will increase because it will be the easiest way to farm money.


You should make the tier1 free card unlootable, but have a cap on the account so you have to upgrade to higher tier cards in order to store more money.


I have to worry about identity fraud, getting mugged, and literally paying money in order to keep surviving in real life. Not sure I want that mechanic in a game I play.

[Quake Freeduster]

They said the ATM cards will have a pin number you select just like in real life. So no serious concern with people guessing your pin unless your being lazy with the pin number. Plus they will only have a limited number of guess at it. AND you can deactivate it at any ATM once you re-spawn and get to an ATM. So people looting your card isn't an issue to be worried about.

[Urbanmojo]

Can you cancel and order a new card from the bank if you have yours stolen, or drop it on the ground by mistake?

[CrankyOldMan]

Originally posted by Urbanmojo:

Can you cancel and order a new card from the bank if you have yours stolen, or drop it on the ground by mistake?

Thats what they said!

[CrankyOldMan]

From what I saw. You can deposit any amount you want at any atm. There are 3 different bank cards that allow you to withdraw different amounts 500, 1000, 5000.
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When at a trader you can use the cash on you same as before or have it deducted from your bank account!---
Basic card will have a 1 digit code and the better card will have 2 digits= 99 codes!
If you get killed with the card on you they have to get to an atm before you do, guess the correct code with limited guesses and withdrawl what they can.
So run your ass to the nearest atm and shut your card down!
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[Urbanmojo]

Perhaps it could be done by the mobile phones you find around too.

I'm guessing it might be a bit tough on players if you get killed at the ATM and then need to spawn in again without any kit or miles from any such ATM

It could also be mine central

[CrankyOldMan]

I guess we will find out soon enough! Anything until then is purely speculative!

[insettoinfetto]

Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:

From what I saw. You can deposit any amount you want at any atm. There are 3 different bank cards that allow you to withdraw different amounts 500, 1000, 5000.
---
When at a trader you can use the cash on you same as before or have it deducted from your bank account!---
Basic card will have a 1 digit code and the better card will have 2 digits= 99 codes!
If you get killed with the card on you they have to get to an atm before you do, guess the correct code with limited guesses and withdrawl what they can.
So run your ass to the nearest atm and shut your card down!
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Started card (free one) have no pin.
You can block/cancel a stolen/dropped card if you reach an ATM or the banker before the thief guess your code.

Using a stolen card have a limited amount of PIN guess, or time between attempts raise. Not sure about this aspect.

[MeanStreak]

0.8

Here's some things I took notes of from dev stream:

New POI will have "unique loot items"
Recommended to use flashlight rather than NVG's in the area

Hazmat suits can only be repaired with duct tape (so no sewing kits)

Geiger counters will be useful also for new items which are depleted uranium and the graphite
"for the graphite thing we're not going to reveal too much right now, but for depleted uranium one of the things you can do with it, or the main thing you can do with it, is to be able to craft special ammunition with it"


BASE BUILDING

Flag limit (nr of flags) determined by squad size other different parameters such as how many BB elements you can place by flag For ex. (as I understood it)
Placing a flag will give you 100 elements to build. With each squad member you'll get additional number of elements added. Private server owners can adjust these numbers.

Solo players will be limited regarding base size as to how big base you can build

Modular basebuilding will still have some old items such as the watch towers and the walls and also the base protection stuff like spikes and barbed wire etc but have removed the old foundations and huts and completely reworked it into a modular one. It's also reworked so that it will need stability. A support system for your build. Upgradable.

RESPAWNS-GOLD- FAMEPOINTS-PERMADEATH

Fame points = Connected with the traders. Traders will not be willing to trade with a "nobody". You will need fame points at the traders to buy stuff, but you will also gain fame points by selling stuffs

How to gain fame points have also been changed. There are added ways of gaining fame points: being online, travelling and how you are travelling, distance, by looting. Different loot items will give more fame points the higher tier the item is
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GOLD (00:20 stream)

Gold will cost 1000 credits per unit and in order to buy gold you have to buy a gold credit card at the bank, which costs $5000 and has a 2-digit pin protection which you will have to use every time you interact with the banker or an ATM.

You can ONLY purchase gold via the gold credit card. "you don't want to lose it because another player can steal your card, and if he's lucky to guess your pin he can take all your money."

If you don't have money for the gold card you can buy the way less expensive 'classic' card which uses only a 1-digit pin code.
This card can be purchased through the Bank or the ATM.

You start your 0.8 character with a 'starter card' in your inventory (Don't lose it!)
It has NO protection so you will want to upgrade this card to at least the "classic card" as soon as possible.

Anyone stealing your pin protected cards will have a limited number of guesses (how many times is not yet determined )

IF you manage to get to an ATM or the Bank trader fast enough you will be able to cancel your card(s) and nobody can access it.
You can then renew it.

1 free renewal for the classic card before you have to pay and
5 renewals for the gold. After the 5 renewals have been made you will have to get a new one.

You can give your account number to other players and transfer funds through the banking system to other players.
You can steal other players credit cards and withdraw moneys or transfer to your own account if you can guess the pincode

RESPAWNS

Fame points for spawning is removed and you can now only use credits or gold.
Credits for random or sector spawn
Gold (only!) for shelter spawn. Default cost is 1 GU (Gold Unit) per spawn.


PERMADEATH
After 10 deaths you will be in -2500 credits (unless you have money in your account).
If you don't have any money and you don't deposit it, you will get permadeath after 10x. So 10 deaths will get you to -2500 credits and you will have to create a new character.

[MeanStreak]

Please feel free to correct me if I may have misunderstood anything. I did however type as I listened to the devs ;)

[CrankyOldMan]

Originally posted by MeanStreak:

Please feel free to correct me if I may have misunderstood anything. I did however type as I listened to the devs ;)

*****
Dude this is by far probably the best post I have ever seen! Credit to you and I mean a lot of credit to you for all that info!
Atm I see no need to change or adjust anything it is very close to what I remember from watching the stream and my own ♥♥♥♥♥♥ notes!

[MeanStreak]

Originally posted by CrankyOldMan:

Originally posted by MeanStreak:

Please feel free to correct me if I may have misunderstood anything. I did however type as I listened to the devs ;)

*****
Dude this is by far probably the best post I have ever seen! Credit to you and I mean a lot of credit to you for all that info!
Atm I see no need to change or adjust anything it is very close to what I remember from watching the stream and my own ♥♥♥♥♥♥ notes!

Thank you!

[_Roidrage]

My question is... how do you renew your Gold Card if it's been stolen or destroyed in an explosion?

I bought one for 5000$ - blew myself up by mistake. All gear was gone.

Went back to the trader and there was no option to renew, just to buy a new one.

[dreaser]

Originally posted by _Roidrage:

My question is... how do you renew your Gold Card if it's been stolen or destroyed in an explosion?

I bought one for 5000$ - blew myself up by mistake. All gear was gone.

Went back to the trader and there was no option to renew, just to buy a new one.

Gold card has 5 free renewals before you need to purchase a new one

At the bank
Click on MY CARDS (you do it within the My Cards section)
Select the Gold Card and there should be a renew option. (Worked for me, Maybe you need to cancel the old first)

[Siamese]

Just don't carry it. Buy a basic card every time you hit the trader, deposit the funds, then destroy the card. You can still repsawn fine you just can't make deposits or withdraws and at this point there is no reason to

[insettoinfetto]

Originally posted by Siamese:

Just don't carry it. Buy a basic card every time you hit the trader, deposit the funds, then destroy the card. You can still repsawn fine you just can't make deposits or withdraws and at this point there is no reason to

Or send the money to a ALT, that don't have a card. 100% safe.