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Where are the Improvised Grinding Stones?
Seems that the grinding stones were removed from the crafting menu? Me an my team were looking to craft some and they are missing....no mention about that in the patch notes, so...are they gone?
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djinni999 Mar 2, 2021 @ 10:50am 
why don't you try this: pick up two stones and have a water bottle on you. click on all these items in your inventory screen, so you have a red frame around them. then, right-click and look for a 'craft grinding stone' option. It might work.
✪ WhiteShip ™ Mar 2, 2021 @ 10:56am 
why don't you try that mate? And why would they remove something from the crafting menu but still make it possible to craft like that? Is that under the "Secret" level, beyond Advanced?

Seriously now.,.. are those removed for good? Or is that a mistake?
Salva Rodriguez Mar 2, 2021 @ 11:54am 
yes I just saw that it's very disappointing !!!
teajay Mar 2, 2021 @ 11:57am 
If you're gonna remove the item from the game then you at least should include it in the patch notes instead of sneaking it in and hoping no one would notice.
RaresPoc Mar 2, 2021 @ 12:02pm 
I hope this is a bug and the Improvised grinding stone come back
Blaster Mar 2, 2021 @ 12:22pm 
RIP improvised grinding stone.... Hello dull throwaway tools
✪ WhiteShip ™ Mar 2, 2021 @ 12:52pm 
I guess it's back to the stone age :) that really sucks. Hope it's just a bug or something...
Last edited by ✪ WhiteShip ™; Mar 2, 2021 @ 12:53pm
ParaBellum Mar 2, 2021 @ 2:49pm 
Hello,

I remember that in ne of the Q&As Tomislav said they are considering to make it harder for them axe raiders... it wouldn't be possible to sharpen the axes just with a improvised sharpening stone... instead you would have to do it in your base or something.

Not sure this has something to do with it.... but if so I don't think this should be the way to make it happen. Due to immense deterioration of blades, which are used for making things like arrows, cutting stuff and butchering... Grindstones are an absolute necessity and since it is not easy to find normal grindstones... improvised grindstones are really the only other sharpening tool...

Don't use them rare Katanas boys.... you will lose them eventually... :(

Cheers.
Originally posted by ParaBellum:
Hello,

I remember that in ne of the Q&As Tomislav said they are considering to make it harder for them axe raiders... it wouldn't be possible to sharpen the axes just with a improvised sharpening stone... instead you would have to do it in your base or something.

Not sure this has something to do with it.... but if so I don't think this should be the way to make it happen. Due to immense deterioration of blades, which are used for making things like arrows, cutting stuff and butchering... Grindstones are an absolute necessity and since it is not easy to find normal grindstones... improvised grindstones are really the only other sharpening tool...

Don't use them rare Katanas boys.... you will lose them eventually... :(

Cheers.

I was using the bayonet which wear down pretty quickly and always made me aware of that, always had to carry either a bottle of water or small grinding stones with me cause you need a lot to fight many zombies. Now all that is pointless. I am not gonna use any bayonet because it simply isn't worth the trouble. Especially on a low loot server where we are playing. It's back to sticks and stones. And it's weird cause anyone can sharpen a blade with some rocks and water. So we are gonna put the axes and any blades we have away and use stone knives and axes.

Oh, we also stacked up on those, but we had a server wipe two days ago so.... we are hoping/waiting for an official answer on that.

Thank you!
smokey57 Mar 2, 2021 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by ParaBellum:
Hello,

I remember that in ne of the Q&As Tomislav said they are considering to make it harder for them axe raiders... it wouldn't be possible to sharpen the axes just with a improvised sharpening stone... instead you would have to do it in your base or something.

Not sure this has something to do with it.... but if so I don't think this should be the way to make it happen.

No. That would be as stupid as stopping raiders from shooting their way into a base by making bullets nearly impossible to find. Ugh.
MeanStreak Mar 2, 2021 @ 4:42pm 
Originally posted by smokey57:
Originally posted by ParaBellum:
Hello,

I remember that in ne of the Q&As Tomislav said they are considering to make it harder for them axe raiders... it wouldn't be possible to sharpen the axes just with a improvised sharpening stone... instead you would have to do it in your base or something.

Not sure this has something to do with it.... but if so I don't think this should be the way to make it happen.

No. That would be as stupid as stopping raiders from shooting their way into a base by making bullets nearly impossible to find. Ugh.

Not like it's going to stop players, With these ♥♥♥♥♥♥ walls if they think it will stop players using any melee weapons to hack their way through a wall they better think again. Don't underestimate the fact that players WILL craft an entire metal box if not two, filled with axes and possibly also other melee to hack and slash their way through basic and medium walls.
Removing the improvised grinding stones is totally the wrong way of approaching this imo. They should have just made it so that melee weapons don't do any damage to walls at all OR significantly up the HP on the basic walls. Period.

The problem is not the grinding stones or "don't make a big base"(as one dev said).

The problem is also a lot to do with the upgrading system. A lot of players don't even stand a chance of upgrading their base walls to advanced before they get raided. No matter how small or big base they have. Also, with the C4 being implemented AND the ease of just using melee to hack through walls this is why people build lots of walls. To try and make it so that it will take more time and effort for any raiders(and hopefully they will get there in time to stop it) - unfortunately that is also all it does: just another wall to get through. Which they will.
They get raided instantly WHILE trying to loot for all the millions of scrap and wire..and nails, bolts they need for upgrading their walls.
Now some smart ass is going to say "just bury your stuff". Sure you can do that. But this game has base building as a part of the game so you should be able to have a base and you shouldn't HAVE to bury your stuff.
Last edited by MeanStreak; Mar 2, 2021 @ 4:45pm
Xuldrin Mar 2, 2021 @ 9:59pm 
I would suggest as an alternative to the removal of the stones to raise the wall HP. One thing that would prevent them from attacking your wall is to put barbed wire around your structure. But I'm not sure how removing this and not telling anyone solves the problem.
Bunny Mar 3, 2021 @ 12:14am 
Sorry for the lack of info, it must have slipped our mind. Improvised grinding stones were removed to make it a bit more difficult to attack base walls with melee weapons. It's a temporal balancing fix and it's quite likely that it will be changed in the future, once we come up with a better system.
Star Wiking Mar 3, 2021 @ 12:21am 
Just prohibit the repair of wood and stone items. Only iron things can be repaired. (Google translator)
Last edited by Star Wiking; Mar 3, 2021 @ 12:22am
✪ WhiteShip ™ Mar 3, 2021 @ 12:23am 
Originally posted by Bunny:
Sorry for the lack of info, it must have slipped our mind. Improvised grinding stones were removed to make it a bit more difficult to attack base walls with melee weapons. It's a temporal balancing fix and it's quite likely that it will be changed in the future, once we come up with a better system.

Well, I understand that but removing them for good makes everything else irelevant. All blades are useless: I am not gonna fix any knive,axe or bayonet because it simply isn’t worth it. We are on a low loot server and that is a problem. I can imagine that on a 10x loot server there are grinding stones everywhere, but we have it 0.5 loot and high puppet damage. Remove the grinding stones and we are left with no defence :) And by the sound of it, it’s not gonna be fixed very soon. Keep in mind that there are PVE servers as well where we don’t attack eachothers walls so please take that into consideration as well. Thank you!!
Last edited by ✪ WhiteShip ™; Mar 3, 2021 @ 12:30am
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