Base building question

[Saintinel]

Hi!

New to the game and I just recently started leveling engineering as I was tired of asking my friend for help all the time. I found a nice little place with a couple barns where I settled down and built 15 chests in order to get to basic for the foundation. I just got that and now it's not letting me build anywhere near this place, I have to go to a random field kinda close but kinda far away where it finally lets me build.

My question is, how come I can't build there? Me and my 2 friends are the only ones on that server so I know it's not claimed and it's a very similar land to where my friend built at. Only difference is that he has 1 house and 1 barn and I have 2 barns. Anyone know why? Or what i'm doing wrong?

I also tried claiming it as I thought that was the problem and it wont let me put the flag down either. I would really hate to have to retire 15 chests and have to haul all the stuff over somewhere else because of a potential bug?

Thank you for your time and have a good day!

~Saintinel

[Deathwhisper]

Hello :)

Do not worry :D this is not a Bug. In some Areas you are not be able to build. For example in the City Samobor or Zagorje. You can occupie Houses by putting locks on it and Fortify the windows, but no Flags can be placed. In the most villages/Towns you will not be able to build a complete base.

However, there are Places, where it is possible to do. Farms in the Wild or in a distance to a Named Village or Town. If you operate a Private Server you also can disable this option and allow building everywhere.

[Saintinel]

Originally posted by Deathwhisper:

Hello :)

Do not worry :D this is not a Bug. In some Areas you are not be able to build. For example in the City Samobor or Zagorje. You can occupie Houses by putting locks on it and Fortify the windows, but no Flags can be placed. In the most villages/Towns you will not be able to build a complete base.

However, there are Places, where it is possible to do. Farms in the Wild or in a distance to a Named Village or Town. If you operate a Private Server you also can disable this option and allow building everywhere.

But the place I setup at is literally 2 barns in the middle of a field far from everything, I literally pick this spot because of that lol. It's really unfortunate if devs found it necessary to make this place unavailable to build. Imo if you can't build base you shouldn't be allowed to build anything else including chests as it is misleading for new players. I now find myself with 15 chests full of logs and mats,armour, weapons and such and i'm gonna have to haul all of this somewhere else which will likely take a couple hours in itself not counting rebuilding said chests to fit the stuff i'm bringing over. I understand in towns and such but this is literally in the middle of nowhere in B1 :(

Anyways, thanks for your answer, I guess I'll get to hauling stuff tomorrow if I find time to play.

[Deathwhisper]

If you have wooden chests, you can move them per drag and drop with opened Inventory screen. Also you can put wooden chests into a Vehicle. This should help you transporting larger amounts of them.

Uhm, maybe you can give me the exact coordinates ? You just need to press ctrl +c and paste them with ctrl + v, i will look then after them and see if i can give you some good alternates if you want to :D

[Dribs]

In the vanilla settings of the game, most places with prefab buildings, like the ones you mention - have been placed under building restrictions. I guess one of the reasons why this is done is to prevent people from building there, to allow other people to loot those places. However, and I hope this is the main reason - is that being able to build flags and bases in areas with pre fab buildings can lead to certain abuses, like having unaccessable loot for example.

This might seem dumb and insignificant to you now at the stage you are with the game, but as long as it can be abused, it has to be dealt with regardless of how people feel about it even if they are not aware of the potential abuses. At least I think thats the right way to go. But in this case, I think they should be consistent about it. Dont allow building anywhere around prefabs, or allow everywhere and unfortunately allow for abuse.

None of this prevents you from actually locking up buildings anywhere though. But if you allow for a flag to be built, someone can literally wall the whole place in, for no one to access it for example. And I assume this is something that will annoy the general player.

[Saintinel]

Originally posted by Deathwhisper:

If you have wooden chests, you can move them per drag and drop with opened Inventory screen. Also you can put wooden chests into a Vehicle. This should help you transporting larger amounts of them.

Uhm, maybe you can give me the exact coordinates ? You just need to press ctrl +c and paste them with ctrl + v, i will look then after them and see if i can give you some good alternates if you want to :D

I will admit I did not know about the chestsbeing able to be moved so I'll try that.

[Saintinel]

Originally posted by torq:

In the vanilla settings of the game, most places with prefab buildings, like the ones you mention - have been placed under building restrictions. I guess one of the reasons why this is done is to prevent people from building there, to allow other people to loot those places. However, and I hope this is the main reason - is that being able to build flags and bases in areas with pre fab buildings can lead to certain abuses, like having unaccessable loot for example.

This might seem dumb and insignificant to you now at the stage you are with the game, but as long as it can be abused, it has to be dealt with regardless of how people feel about it even if they are not aware of the potential abuses. At least I think thats the right way to go. But in this case, I think they should be consistent about it. Dont allow building anywhere around prefabs, or allow everywhere and unfortunately allow for abuse.

None of this prevents you from actually locking up buildings anywhere though. But if you allow for a flag to be built, someone can literally wall the whole place in, for no one to access it for example. And I assume this is something that will annoy the general player.

I understand what you're trying to say but I've played plenty of survival games and can assure you this area is of no significant use. It literally had 3-4 haybales and 2-3 wooden containers. Given the size of the map, and the fact they aren't special buildings (I.e police stations, pharmacy etc.) And also given the fact my friend built somewhere that has alot more to offer, this area being locked down makes no sense whatsoever.

That being said, I've accepted the fact I'm gonna have to relocate and will move on.

[MeanStreak]

Another possibility is that someone else placed a flag nearby (doesn't have to be a base, just a flag for various reasons).
As already mentioned, some smaller villages or farms you are actually able to build at - however if it's close to a road then it's possible the base build restrictions are preventing you from building there. There are pictures somewhere on the interwebz showing all restricted/non-restricted areas for base building - I do however not know if there is an updated version of it.

Since players don't know your ingame nick name or which server you play on - would you mind letting me know which sector and keypad you tried placing a flag at? I'm just curious which area this is.

And for those who doesn't know about keypad - this has been a thing since the beginning - If you imagine your numpad as an overlay on a sector it will divide the sector into:
789
456
123

So top corner of for example D4 would be "D4 KP7" and the bottom left corner would obviously be "D4 KP3"

And then per keypad-area you can overlay it again. Makes it easier to pinpoint a location. (D4 KP7 kp3)

[Saintinel]

Originally posted by MeanStreak:

Another possibility is that someone else placed a flag nearby (doesn't have to be a base, just a flag for various reasons).
As already mentioned, some smaller villages or farms you are actually able to build at - however if it's close to a road then it's possible the base build restrictions are preventing you from building there. There are pictures somewhere on the interwebz showing all restricted/non-restricted areas for base building - I do however not know if there is an updated version of it.

Since players don't know your ingame nick name or which server you play on - would you mind letting me know which sector and keypad you tried placing a flag at? I'm just curious which area this is.

And for those who doesn't know about keypad - this has been a thing since the beginning - If you imagine your numpad as an overlay on a sector it will divide the sector into:
789
456
123

So top corner of for example D4 would be "D4 KP7" and the bottom left corner would obviously be "D4 KP3"

And then per keypad-area you can overlay it again. Makes it easier to pinpoint a location. (D4 KP7 kp3)

It's a server with just me and two friends so I know no one placed a flag, and if i drive to the road I can build literally beside it but as mentioned above I will look for another zone. But next time i'm on i'll try to reply to this with the location so you can see :)

[Dribs]

Originally posted by Saintinel:

I understand what you're trying to say but I've played plenty of survival games and can assure you this area is of no significant use.

Yes, but if you read my post I was also talking about abuses. And I think I know better how it can be abused in this game with my thousands of hours in it, compared to your prior knowledge with other survival games. Just trust me on this one. The "area" might not look significant to you, but allowing people to build there can lead to a certain form of abuse. Not all places can be of course, and I dont know which specific part of the map you are talking about, but this can be done in several buildings around the map, as you say "in the middle of nowhere".

[Saintinel]

Originally posted by torq:

Originally posted by Saintinel:

I understand what you're trying to say but I've played plenty of survival games and can assure you this area is of no significant use.

Yes, but if you read my post I was also talking about abuses. And I think I know better how it can be abused in this game with my thousands of hours in it, compared to your prior knowledge with other survival games. Just trust me on this one. The "area" might not look significant to you, but allowing people to build there can lead to a certain form of abuse. Not all places can be of course, and I dont know which specific part of the map you are talking about, but this can be done in several buildings around the map, as you say "in the middle of nowhere".

Yes, clearly you know better, thank you for your kind reply.

[MeanStreak]

Originally posted by torq:

Originally posted by Saintinel:

I understand what you're trying to say but I've played plenty of survival games and can assure you this area is of no significant use.

Yes, but if you read my post I was also talking about abuses. And I think I know better how it can be abused in this game with my thousands of hours in it, compared to your prior knowledge with other survival games. Just trust me on this one. The "area" might not look significant to you, but allowing people to build there can lead to a certain form of abuse. Not all places can be of course, and I don't know which specific part of the map you are talking about, but this can be done in several buildings around the map, as you say "in the middle of nowhere".

Although there are many farms etc available to build at,
there are also many unimportant places that have base build restrictions for no apparent good reason at all.
Road blocks is imo not a good reason as many times you can just drive around it. I have many thousands of hours in this game split on different accounts, and on top of that I have a couple more thousand as a server admin.

"Abuse" as you call it....
It's funny how they would prevent a small farm from having any base building elements, but for a very long time would allow people to build bases in many of the various tunnels around the map where it is VERY OP to have a base.
And no I don't agree they should have either this or that regarding pre-existing buildings.

Anyway - the restrictions seems very random.

[Saintinel]

Originally posted by MeanStreak:

Another possibility is that someone else placed a flag nearby (doesn't have to be a base, just a flag for various reasons).
As already mentioned, some smaller villages or farms you are actually able to build at - however if it's close to a road then it's possible the base build restrictions are preventing you from building there. There are pictures somewhere on the interwebz showing all restricted/non-restricted areas for base building - I do however not know if there is an updated version of it.

Since players don't know your ingame nick name or which server you play on - would you mind letting me know which sector and keypad you tried placing a flag at? I'm just curious which area this is.

And for those who doesn't know about keypad - this has been a thing since the beginning - If you imagine your numpad as an overlay on a sector it will divide the sector into:
789
456
123

So top corner of for example D4 would be "D4 KP7" and the bottom left corner would obviously be "D4 KP3"

And then per keypad-area you can overlay it again. Makes it easier to pinpoint a location. (D4 KP7 kp3)

https://imgur.com/a/bEEIf4Y

Here's a screenshot I took a few days ago standing exactly where I was trying to build, the blue dots show where it lets me build so clearly it has nothing to do with proximity :/ At this point i'm just curious to know if i'm bugged or if it's intended, i've already been trying to look for other areas. I just really liked how cozy that place was

[MeanStreak]

This location ? (#teleport -470003.500 -230287.328 18873.311)
https://imgur.com/OaUicrF
https://imgur.com/wVHuYYE

If it is, then yes it has base build restrictions on.

[Saintinel]

Originally posted by MeanStreak:

This location ? (#teleport -470003.500 -230287.328 18873.311)
https://imgur.com/OaUicrF
https://imgur.com/wVHuYYE

If it is, then yes it has base build restrictions on.

That's the one

Unfortunate and I still don't see why it's on, but thanks for checking :) Wish I would of known about it sooner. As I said, I liked how cozy it was xD

[Dribs]

Originally posted by MeanStreak:

"Abuse" as you call it....

I'm not talking about roadblocks. I'm talking about using the map to make unraidable bases. Which can be done with various buildings around the map. I dont know if it covers specifically the place the OP is talking about, but it could very well be. I'm fine with any other base, tunnel bases, roadblocks, I'm even fine with people surrounding whole POI's with bases if they want to - but I'm not fine with unraidable bases.