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KeilerHirsch 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:15
BotServer after 0.5 release
Will BotServers finally be banned after the upgrade?

The "game concept" there has nothing to do with the game, that's just cheating.
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alan0n 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:48 
Personally only find it annoying when it gets used as a kind of private micro-transaction system for private server admins. But I guess its easy enough to just not play on servers like that.
Attack Chicken 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:49 
How doe s a BotServer work?
最後修改者:Attack Chicken; 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:49
alan0n 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:50 
引用自 Attack Chicken
How doe s a BotServer work?
Basically you interact with a discord bot and stuff happens in game. Like you say #newbie in discord and it spawns a newbie welcome pack in game for you.

My problem is when you donate 5 bucks via another bot and they spawn you a katana or an ak15 or something. Its can basically be used as pay 2 win.
最後修改者:alan0n; 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 6:54
LJ Legend 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:05 
Are you unable to just simply, NOT play on botservers?
alan0n 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:15 
引用自 LJ Legend
Are you unable to just simply, NOT play on botservers?
Yup, joining it or not is your choice. Hence the reason I have never been overly vocal about my distaste for the setup.
It doesn't effect me, and some people like the system.
最後修改者:alan0n; 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:16
Driblus 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:16 
Problem with bot servers is that they detract people from the actual game, making the servers that are more in line with the games intention less populated.
KeilerHirsch 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:19 
引用自 LJ Legend
Are you unable to just simply, NOT play on botservers?

Bots are external programs, which are not scheduled by the developers. This destroys the whole game. Check Battlemetrics, 18 out of 20 top servers are all with bots.

Nobody plays scum there.

And all other private server operators are of course pissed off, because you spend money on a server, but has 0 chance to get them full because everyone plays on a bot server.

I'm curious how long "normal" servers are still offered, the patience is over.
KeilerHirsch 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:22 
引用自 Driblus
Problem with bot servers is that they detract people from the actual game, making the servers that are more in line with the games intention less populated.

That is exactly the problem.
alan0n 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:24 
引用自 Driblus
Problem with bot servers is that they detract people from the actual game, making the servers that are more in line with the games intention less populated.

Well, lets be honest here.

This games concept is pretty hardcore, the level of micromanagement is just not going to appeal to most casual gamers. These servers give at least some of the players who would probably quit after realizing how difficult (or maybe thats a bad word, tedious might be better) the actual gameplay is a place to enjoy it in a more friendly environment.

So if they are drawing players off other servers, I feel like it wouldn't be that many.

EDIT: Now I feel like Im defending them. Just let it be known that I dislike them also.
最後修改者:alan0n; 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:25
KeilerHirsch 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:30 
Scum is hardcore when you play it right. But that's exactly the appeal of it.

And the "normal" target audience of Scum wants this experience, it's a survival simulation after all. And not a Call of Duty or Pubg clone.
Driblus 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:38 
引用自 alan0n

Well, lets be honest here.

This games concept is pretty hardcore, the level of micromanagement is just not going to appeal to most casual gamers. These servers give at least some of the players who would probably quit after realizing how difficult (or maybe thats a bad word, tedious might be better) the actual gameplay is a place to enjoy it in a more friendly environment.

So if they are drawing players off other servers, I feel like it wouldn't be that many.

EDIT: Now I feel like Im defending them. Just let it be known that I dislike them also.

I dont view it the same way at all. Instead I find the expectations of these people to be too high. In my view, this game is more fun if you have a crafted bow, an improvised shotgun or whatever scrap you have, compared to having a bunch of naked people running around with a fully decked AK and a fully decked M82 on their back, and when raiding they just order screwdrivers and lock picks.

If people come in expecting the game to be a PUBG clone with action all the time, and not be ready to live like a hobo for a while (which in my view is the game also, and fun), I just think they have the wrong expectations of the game. Thats not how the game is ment to be, but the bot servers make it so.

These expectations are perpetuated as well, as people see it as normal if whenever they join a new server they get a welcome pack, and if they need something they just buy it. In my opinion, thats a complete wrong entry point to the game, and in my view - they're never really playing scum at all.

And I do believe if there were no option, more people would populate servers that are more in line with the game intention.

At the same time, I dont find people profiting (off of content they havent made themselves) from having bot servers good at all. I find that quite speculative to be honest. This however will probably be solved with the EULA they are working on. And hopefully that might curb the problem a bit the way I see it atleast.
最後修改者:Driblus; 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:43
alan0n 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:52 
引用自 Driblus

I dont view it the same way at all. Instead I find the expectations of these people to be too high. In my view, this game is more fun if you have a crafted bow, an improvised shotgun or whatever scrap you have, compared to having a bunch of naked people running around with a fully decked AK and a fully decked M82 on their back, and when raiding they just order screwdrivers and lock picks.

I agree, hence most of my playtime is on low-loot high infected private servers.

引用自 Driblus
At the same time, I dont find people profiting (off of content they havent made themselves) from having bot servers good at all. I find that quite speculative to be honest. This however will probably be solved with the EULA they are working on. And hopefully that might curb the problem a bit the way I see it atleast.

This is also my problem with the it, the rest I feel is more minor.

If these folks played on another server and then just rage-quit, you probably would have never seen them anyway.
There might be a few that would push through and find they enjoyed it, but most people that are on those servers wouldnt have continued to play if there wasnt a system to spoon feed them gear. Thus they probably wouldnt have added to the official population in any meaningful way anyway.

Thats why I dont mind them being there as an option for casuals.
CrankyOldMan 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:53 
引用自 Driblus
引用自 alan0n

Well, lets be honest here.

This games concept is pretty hardcore, the level of micromanagement is just not going to appeal to most casual gamers. These servers give at least some of the players who would probably quit after realizing how difficult (or maybe thats a bad word, tedious might be better) the actual gameplay is a place to enjoy it in a more friendly environment.

So if they are drawing players off other servers, I feel like it wouldn't be that many.

EDIT: Now I feel like Im defending them. Just let it be known that I dislike them also.

I dont view it the same way at all. Instead I find the expectations of these people to be too high. In my view, this game is more fun if you have a crafted bow, an improvised shotgun or whatever scrap you have, compared to having a bunch of naked people running around with a fully decked AK and a fully decked M82 on their back, and when raiding they just order screwdrivers and lock picks.

If people come in expecting the game to be a PUBG clone with action all the time, and not be ready to live like a hobo for a while (which in my view is the game also, and fun), I just think they have the wrong expectations of the game. Thats not how the game is ment to be, but the bot servers make it so.

And I do believe if there were no option, more people would populate servers that are more in line with the game intention.

At the same time, I dont find people profiting (off of content they havent made themselves) from having bot servers good at all. I find that quite speculative to be honest. This however will probably be solved with the EULA they are working on. And hopefully that might curb the problem a bit the way I see it atleast.
I couldn't agree more I love this game as a survivor game and If people want to pubg they can just do events...The only issue I have is part of the metabolism which I hope gets fixed. A normal person only requires 2k calories per day-a highly active person would require different nutrients yes but to have to eat all day long is annoying!! I do however love that you have to learn what-how much-when to eat to stay healthy. I am mapping out the entire map of where food is found (plants) and where I find cantharellus cibarius!
Faustus 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:56 
Devs have confirmed that they are working on a EULA for SCUM which would exclude pay 2 win from the game. This does not necessarily mean that bots will be banned, but server owners selling ingame items either directly or with some kind of premium service should not be a thing in any online game. Unless the server owner is also the publisher/developer, but that's another story.

NO ETA!
最後修改者:Faustus; 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 7:58
Sugam 2021 年 3 月 26 日 上午 8:00 
引用自 KeilerHirsch
Scum is hardcore when you play it right. But that's exactly the appeal of it.

And the "normal" target audience of Scum wants this experience, it's a survival simulation after all. And not a Call of Duty or Pubg clone.

That hardcore experience is what brings people in, like myself. The problem I see more and more these days is a casual or normal player will play these types of games to be 'hardcore' but not understand themselves well enough to fit into that so in a lot of games they start demanding the game to be more casual and easy in small increments of changes from the devs. Many good games have been destroyed from this.

The bots are a symptom to this. I hate bots personally, servers/admins try to scalp money from players while some streamers join up with admins to create a fake hardcore gaming experience to advertise for viewers/money.

Ark does the bot thing too. A few servers have banned some aspects of the game unless you pay for them. Its disgusting. People have their own rules on their private servers and though do not like bots it should be OK if they really want them but I also think that 'donations' should be outright disallowed on scum servers for many reasons. Scum should have been on this early but then I do not even know if the studio is OK with players with 3rd party programs injected into Scum making money off their product.
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