SCUM
Improvised Grinding Stones
although i bought scum short after the start of the early access i just started to really play it a few weeks ago and i really like the game!
i read somewhere that you could build inprovised grinding stones but that feature was patched out because people would use it so raid bases of other players. is that correct?
if yes, that is very unfortunate, because i really would like to be able to maintain my katana more without searching grinding stones for hours.

wouldn´t it be a solution to make improvised grinding stones stationary as a part of your own base? something like a rotation millstone or something similar.
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Ron Jun 30, 2021 @ 1:44am 
Originally posted by Schinderhannes:
wouldn´t it be a solution to make improvised grinding stones stationary as a part of your own base? something like a rotation millstone or something similar.


You can craft a workbench now for your base. This will allow you to maintain (sharpen) your katana, craft ammunition etcetera...
Last edited by Ron; Jun 30, 2021 @ 1:45am
Driblus Jun 30, 2021 @ 2:00am 
Originally posted by Schinderhannes:
although i bought scum short after the start of the early access i just started to really play it a few weeks ago and i really like the game!
i read somewhere that you could build inprovised grinding stones but that feature was patched out because people would use it so raid bases of other players. is that correct?
if yes, that is very unfortunate, because i really would like to be able to maintain my katana more without searching grinding stones for hours.

wouldn´t it be a solution to make improvised grinding stones stationary as a part of your own base? something like a rotation millstone or something similar.

The whole idea, the majority of this games game loop is about "searching for [insert item] for hours", and what happens while doing that.
xKiCkx  [developer] Jun 30, 2021 @ 2:38am 
That is correct, it was removed from the game as it was misused in most situations, you can already craft a workbench in the game that will enable you to repair your melee weapons.
And then you have to repair the workbench with a toolbox.
Red River (Banned) Jun 30, 2021 @ 4:52am 
Originally posted by The Great Assyr:
And then you have to repair the workbench with a toolbox.
not only that it's much slower to repair with workbench vs grinding stone and you can only do a fraction at a time.
repairing something 0 - 100% will consume the workbench just like a regular grinding stone!
xKiCkx  [developer] Jun 30, 2021 @ 5:28am 
Originally posted by Red River:
Originally posted by The Great Assyr:
And then you have to repair the workbench with a toolbox.
not only that it's much slower to repair with workbench vs grinding stone and you can only do a fraction at a time.
repairing something 0 - 100% will consume the workbench just like a regular grinding stone!

Yes, but there is a difference that workbench can be repaired and regular grinding stone can't.
Also workbench is used to craft a lot of other useful things... ;-)
Personally I'm ok with the actual system, yet I will cheer the eventual return of improvised grinding stones. :-)
Deathwhisper Jun 30, 2021 @ 5:47am 
Or there could be some grinding machines hard placed in different locations to have a Option when on travel ?
NCrawler Jun 30, 2021 @ 6:04am 
Originally posted by Deathwhisper:
Or there could be some grinding machines hard placed in different locations to have a Option when on travel ?

There already are. Plenty of machine shops scattered around the island.
Deathwhisper Jun 30, 2021 @ 6:06am 
Yes, but not a grinding machine like my father had in his workshop in the backjard. So it can not be missused but you still have here and there a chance without any toolbox to repair your equiptment or for example you need a car batterie to power it. Just a suggestion on the go.
CrankyOldMan Jun 30, 2021 @ 7:28am 
Originally posted by O30C NCrawler:
Originally posted by Deathwhisper:
Or there could be some grinding machines hard placed in different locations to have a Option when on travel ?

There already are. Plenty of machine shops scattered around the island.
Yup almost every city and small town have a workshop where you can sharpen axes swords shovels knives anything with an edge you just need to have a tool box of which you can make an improvised even...Keep in mind that workbenches at your base will degrade over time all on their own very fast and any ammo created at them is 50% quality unless they patched that already been awhile since I crafted ammo at one to check!
Deathwhisper Jun 30, 2021 @ 8:11am 
xD Guys i do know that. I just suggested a idea for an Alternative. Personaly i have not a single problem to maintain my weapons. But thank you for sharing it anyway, maybe some others did not knew it and are now happy to know. :D
Linea Jun 30, 2021 @ 8:51am 
Originally posted by xKiCkx:
Originally posted by Red River:
not only that it's much slower to repair with workbench vs grinding stone and you can only do a fraction at a time.
repairing something 0 - 100% will consume the workbench just like a regular grinding stone!

Yes, but there is a difference that workbench can be repaired and regular grinding stone can't.

I guess a part of the problem is the weird imbalance.
A survival game where a stone is one of the rarest items you are desperatly searching for while you have a truckload of perfect condition guns and ammo in your base.

Maybe the workbench could be expanded later so it will contain slots for tools that you can fill with the corresponding tool. Might even be visible which tools the workbench contains, it needs the right tools for different actions to be avaliable.
When using the workbench it will only consume condition of the necessary tools.
Tools will last quiet some time but for most actions you need multiple, the bench itself will only detoriate slightly when used and with time like normal furniture.

The gameplay balance could be corrected with more enemies and dangers in the world or rarer loot as well as armor values on walls and structures so you cannot tear them down with a scrap axe and need rarer large tools. Ultimativley allowing to keep the tools and workbench a little more realistic.
I mean i still use tools from my grandpa that are more than 100 years old. If they havent died to rust they are still fine even when they where used a lot. And the sturdy workbench in the cellar is even older and it doesnt look like i will see the end of it.
Last edited by Linea; Jun 30, 2021 @ 8:53am
Buttholomäus Jun 30, 2021 @ 11:31am 
thanks for the anwers, didn´t even know you could use an improvised workbench to repair items. good to know! is is better to repair items at the workbenches you find in cities or doesn´t it matter?
thx! great game, much to discover!
Red River (Banned) Jun 30, 2021 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Schinderhannes:
thanks for the anwers, didn´t even know you could use an improvised workbench to repair items. good to know! is is better to repair items at the workbenches you find in cities or doesn´t it matter?
thx! great game, much to discover!
public ones are way better because you only need a toolbox to do that...
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