Bad Optimization

[᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼ ᲼᲼᲼]

Hey, I was wondering if the game will run better in mid and low end PCs.

Today I started playing and with all turned off and to the lowest I couldn't even hit 60 constant FPS (in 1080p)

My PC specs are:

Ryzen 5 1600
RX 570 8GB (OC to 1750MHz instead of 1168MHz)
8x2 GB 3000MHZ

And the game is installed on a new 1tb HDD


I know I don't have the best hardware but I can run games like metro exodus at maxed graphics fine and this game can't even hit 60fps with everything in low.

[Ron]

Optimization is an ongoing process. The game is still alpha and they continually work on performance.

They have just updated UE4, added experimental DX12 and also reworked the big city. That all needs to be tweaked now for best possible performance.

[Ron]

Originally posted by Joacosho:

this game can't even hit 60fps with everything in low.

Lowering the render resolution is the single biggest FPS gain in scum.
Set it to 70-80 and you'll gain frames.

Also, installing scum on a SSD is highly recommended.

[SVSQUVSH]

The game is at version 0.4. I play scum since the release, and it made some really big perfromance optimisations. Back then, I couldnt get 30-40 Average FPS in a forrest and at other areas. Now I have average of 55-60FPS. Which is of course not the best, but that for scum is at 0.4 its pretty good. The devs are working on any kind of optimisations all the time. We allready got DX12 in the last update, which will get more work in the future, so some people will have a benefit from it. Also they updated to UE 4.25 in the last update, which also brings a lot of optimisations. Since UE 4.25 I have much less stutters, my minimum FPS is at 35 FPS now, before it was 25-30FPS. My CPU is working better now. The Fog is even eating some performance, so when its removed, I guess it will even run better. So that said, its a never stopping process until the game gets out, and we will see a ton of stuff in the future. More then we saw in the past :D

[SVSQUVSH]

And btw, if you want to have more FPS, you can buy a better CPU. Scum is very CPU bound atm, so I can imagine you have a bottleneck with that one. But you can wait until they worked more on DX12, people with a high end GPU and low-mid end CPU will have a benefit then.

[Riftwind]

I recently got this and noticed the really bad fps - i7 7700k / Geforce GTX 1050 Ti here - didnt expect it to work at all tbh.

The render resolution as mentioned above has given me a decent 20 frames boost, also turning off some of the shadow rendering helps. I think given the early access, thats ok, but i stopped playing Ark awhile ago because i couldnt get that to run decently.

Conan exiles however runs well, and im sure that uses a similiar engine to these games, so im sure it can be optimized developer end.

That said, even though its buggy im enjoying it immensly and ive only played it for 3 days !

[HunterKiller]

Originally posted by Destiny's Vision!:

Even better still install on a NVME M.2 (*500gb) or bigger... ;)

I just did and even better than that for the whole system and I get good fps but, the game still has skipping/freezing in areas and low fps all throughout the map. I will have 80+ fps in one area then, 27-45 in another. So no, it's not just because someone needs to go out and spend another $500 for a upgrade when the game minimum and recommended specs are already posted as to what you can play the game on. This is for the developers to make sure the game runs optimal for the specs they declare the game will run on.

Since everything is built in China, many of us aren't able to just go out and purchase a new system at the ready anymore. It's all a pre-purchase online thing now. People have been waiting from weeks to months to get the system they've already paid for in advance. I was fortunate enough to have a few K lying around and done so at a local store. Not really the system I wanted but, it was better than the few they have in stock. The one I wanted was on display and there wasn't anything I could say or, do, to get them to sell it to me. it was the only one they had left. So, when you tell people to upgrade, it's not always available for everyone, on the spur of the moment to be able to do. As for purchasing a new video card or, RAM and the like around here, they're only available at repair shops and what they have in store on their shelves is low-end junk, however, they will offer to order them for you and have it delivered in two to three days but, that comes with a 15-25% makeup. Not worth it to me.

Even though the system I have now makes the game look as if, I'm running around in a movie instead of a game, the optimization is still lacking in areas.

[᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼ ᲼᲼᲼]

Originally posted by Rambo13:

And btw, if you want to have more FPS, you can buy a better CPU. Scum is very CPU bound atm, so I can imagine you have a bottleneck with that one. But you can wait until they worked more on DX12, people with a high end GPU and low-mid end CPU will have a benefit then.

bruh saying "buy a beter CPU" is like saying "Buy a better PC"

and my cpu usage doesn't hit more than 40% while playing this so nah

[Fingers]

Dog, your eye only recognizes up to 40fps. Everything after that is just arbitrary bragging rights.

[DoctorX]

Originally posted by Fingers:

Dog, your eye only recognizes up to 40fps. Everything after that is just arbitrary bragging rights.

Pan your view quickly at 40fps vs 60fps. Your eye can absolutely see the difference.

It's like back in the day when cinematographers swore your eye couldn't register more than 24fps, yet they implemented the 7-second panning rule while filming.

[BustyMommy]

Originally posted by Fingers:

Dog, your eye only recognizes up to 40fps. Everything after that is just arbitrary bragging rights.

40 and 60 fps are really easy to notice a difference between. The human eye cannot capture anything above 60hz so if you have any more than 60fps you literally aren't going to be able to notice a difference visually, over 60fps in game probably still can have a effect on ability since that could attribute to your ability to react opposed to what you are capable of seeing.

The game is poorly optimized, most people don't need to buy a better PC.

Playing SCUM - can't enter the big city, freezes for 3 seconds to half a minute, every few seconds. When I'm around the only other probably 2 or 3 cities that have a lot of buildings and item spawns it gives me the same slowdown just not as bad, in between cities is smooth as a breeze with no freezing or fps drop no matter my camera angle. Playing on 1920 at max graphics, changing graphics settings doesn't affect this bug.

I have a Ryzen 5 3600x and a RTX 2060 and 16GB of 3200 RAM, CPU usage 24% GPU 75% and RAM 80% and over usually. There's no reason my machine should have any freezing at any graphics settings on the game so it isn't peeps machines.
The game has a memory leak issue I believe and there is a bug with the item qeue, the system that makes a list for your PC saying hey here's what you need to generate and where. It just eats a ♥♥♥♥ load of RAM to play right now.

[Stringer]

Doesn't seem like you're getting much help from most people here, but I have a PC that is slightly lower spec than yours (i5@3.4GHz & GTX770) and SCUM runs fine on low, with small stutters in the city. The only thing that is different for me is I'm using an old SSD.

Originally posted by OGD:

Lowering the render resolution is the single biggest FPS gain in scum.
Set it to 70-80 and you'll gain frames.

Also, installing scum on a SSD is highly recommended.

In my opinion, OGD gives you the best answer for possible fixes. Only other variable is how clean you run your PC, meaning how many background programs you're running as well as how long it's been since you ran diagnostics (defrag, disk cleanup, etc). Hope you get it figured out.

[Siamese]

Originally posted by Fingers:

Dog, your eye only recognizes up to 40fps. Everything after that is just arbitrary bragging rights.

Not so fast...Here is one of many videos demonstrating the benefits of higher frame rates. There is no question there are benefits beyond "bragging rights" after 40 fps.

https://youtu.be/OX31kZbAXsA

[Rücklicht]

Originally posted by Destiny's Vision!:

Originally posted by OGD:

Lowering the render resolution is the single biggest FPS gain in scum.
Set it to 70-80 and you'll gain frames.

Also, installing scum on a SSD is highly recommended.

Even better still install on a NVME M.2 (*500gb) or bigger... ;)

Gives him maybe a second shorter loading time. Nvmes are money wasters for gaming.

[GuduGaztel]

I do not understand my configuration is the worst of all see
AMD Radeon R9 200 / HD 7900 Series
Seagate ST3000DM00 3T Sata III
Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz.
16 GB DDR3 ram
And everything goes well until I can put some things in the ultra
This was the best update of all on optimization
The only problem I have is that I can no longer rotate items in the backpack (SinglePlayer) but I think this has already been reported
Congratulations to the Devs you are awesome!

[SeemsLikeChris]

Originally posted by Rambo13:

And btw, if you want to have more FPS, you can buy a better CPU. Scum is very CPU bound atm, so I can imagine you have a bottleneck with that one. But you can wait until they worked more on DX12, people with a high end GPU and low-mid end CPU will have a benefit then.

Not true my CPU is at 30% my GPU is at 35% but the game run pretty poorly, on occasion I get 110 FPS which is good. Most of the time I get between 60-90 FPS. But sometimes it drops down to 5 FPS when loading the assets when I approach a town. Also worth noting is my game is installed on an M2 SSD drive.