Building on top of Cabin???

[Majestikkal]

How do you build on top of Cabin? I have seen several bases that build really high up on top of their cabins, but Anytime I try to build like they do, I cannot lay down blueprints on the top of the cabin roof. I've tried laying down rugs, base blocks, wood platforms, foundations.... but nothing seems to work..... So how do they do it?

[Dribs]

We've informed the devs how to do it, and hopefully it will be patched come next update. I hope other ways to build unraidable bases on existing structures will also be patched, but I really doubt it. Which is a shame. On every server, people will run for the unraidable spots, and whoever gets them - those will be in their possession until the next wipe, without ever having to fear being raided. This is also a problem because of the 24 hour flag take over mechanic, and the fact that flags never deteriorate. Even if someone stops playing and their whole base deteriorates, no one can build there until next wipe as there will be no ways to get to the flags.

Also, anyone else who knows how to do this, please dont share the information.

[domturbo]

Its possible... if you own a server.
Deactivate the restrictions ...

[Dribs]

Originally posted by domturbo:

Its possible... if you own a server.
Deactivate the restrictions ...

It is also possible on officials, with the restrictions.

[Codewolke]

Originally posted by Majestikkal:

How do you build on top of Cabin? I have seen several bases that build really high up on top of their cabins, but Anytime I try to build like they do, I cannot lay down blueprints on the top of the cabin roof. I've tried laying down rugs, base blocks, wood platforms, foundations.... but nothing seems to work..... So how do they do it?

Have you tried wooden closet (the tiny ones without the chest function) and chairs?

[Siamese]

It's been said by devs that they intend to eventually have all server buildings in no build zones. This was some time back but they said they would keep making passes until they were all no build. So if you have specific spots on the map in mind you should post it so they know what's left to correct.

[Dribs]

Originally posted by Siamese:

It's been said by devs that they intend to eventually have all server buildings in no build zones. This was some time back but they said they would keep making passes until they were all no build. So if you have specific spots on the map in mind you should post it so they know what's left to correct.

I've talked to the devs directly about this issue, and it seems to be a low priority to fix atm, as it apparently requires a lot of work.

So we're left with having multiple locations (about 10-15 or so, some of course better than others) around the map where people can build unraidable bases on pre-built structures (or environment) for the unforseeable future.

Making an unraidable base anywhere by built elements alone, is probably going to be patched soon though. Which means that come any fresh wipe (coming up soon) you better get your most favorable unraidable spot on day one, or forget about that server. And then it might be too late on every other populated server, as these spots will be taken within the first few hours. Which then means that you have to wait for the next wipe (like half a year atleast) to have an unraidable base on your preferred server or play at a massive disadvantage because those teams can raid you, but you cant raid them.

Or they just bloody fix it.

In my opinion, this is the most annoying issue in the whole game currently.

[Siamese]

Originally posted by torq:

Originally posted by Siamese:

It's been said by devs that they intend to eventually have all server buildings in no build zones. This was some time back but they said they would keep making passes until they were all no build. So if you have specific spots on the map in mind you should post it so they know what's left to correct.

I've talked to the devs directly about this issue, and it seems to be a low priority to fix atm, as it apparently requires a lot of work.

So we're left with having multiple locations (about 10-15 or so, some of course better than others) around the map where people can build unraidable bases on pre-built structures (or environment) for the unforseeable future.

Making an unraidable base anywhere by built elements alone, is probably going to be patched soon though. Which means that come any fresh wipe (coming up soon) you better get your most favorable unraidable spot on day one, or forget about that server. And then it might be too late on every other populated server, as these spots will be taken within the first few hours. Which then means that you have to wait for the next wipe (like half a year atleast) to have an unraidable base on your preferred server or play at a massive disadvantage because those teams can raid you, but you cant raid them.

Or they just bloody fix it.

In my opinion, this is the most annoying issue in the whole game currently.

Yeah, i did say eventually they'd do it.
I don't see this as being a real problem. You can still break in you can still loot you just don't get to move in for good.

[Codewolke]

Originally posted by torq:

Originally posted by Siamese:

It's been said by devs that they intend to eventually have all server buildings in no build zones. This was some time back but they said they would keep making passes until they were all no build. So if you have specific spots on the map in mind you should post it so they know what's left to correct.

I've talked to the devs directly about this issue, and it seems to be a low priority to fix atm, as it apparently requires a lot of work.

So we're left with having multiple locations (about 10-15 or so, some of course better than others) around the map where people can build unraidable bases on pre-built structures (or environment) for the unforseeable future.

Making an unraidable base anywhere by built elements alone, is probably going to be patched soon though. Which means that come any fresh wipe (coming up soon) you better get your most favorable unraidable spot on day one, or forget about that server. And then it might be too late on every other populated server, as these spots will be taken within the first few hours. Which then means that you have to wait for the next wipe (like half a year atleast) to have an unraidable base on your preferred server or play at a massive disadvantage because those teams can raid you, but you cant raid them.

Or they just bloody fix it.

In my opinion, this is the most annoying issue in the whole game currently.

a month ago i would heavily agree with you but since we have this new flag system now its not that of a big deal anymore. theoretically cou can place your flag in front of your door right now and your loot will be as safe as any other base.


Maybe i should remind you, that there is ALOT more then 15 places where such a base is possible. Every static watchtower can be used too. so there is at least 40 locations.

How many places do you know, where loot (chests etc) can be stored unreachable? I just know one.

[Siamese]

Originally posted by Pressi:

Originally posted by torq:

I've talked to the devs directly about this issue, and it seems to be a low priority to fix atm, as it apparently requires a lot of work.

So we're left with having multiple locations (about 10-15 or so, some of course better than others) around the map where people can build unraidable bases on pre-built structures (or environment) for the unforseeable future.

Making an unraidable base anywhere by built elements alone, is probably going to be patched soon though. Which means that come any fresh wipe (coming up soon) you better get your most favorable unraidable spot on day one, or forget about that server. And then it might be too late on every other populated server, as these spots will be taken within the first few hours. Which then means that you have to wait for the next wipe (like half a year atleast) to have an unraidable base on your preferred server or play at a massive disadvantage because those teams can raid you, but you cant raid them.

Or they just bloody fix it.

In my opinion, this is the most annoying issue in the whole game currently.

a month ago i would heavily agree with you but since we have this new flag system now its not that of a big deal anymore. theoretically cou can place your flag in front of your door right now and your loot will be as safe as any other base.


Maybe i should remind you, that there is ALOT more then 15 places where such a base is possible. Every static watchtower can be used too. so there is at least 40 locations.

How many places do you know, where loot (chests etc) can be stored unreachable? I just know one.

There's more than one for sure but i don't think that matters. If some 1% of the pop on a server can hide their chests on the roof of a building i don't think that constitutes a serious problem at all, in fact it's laughable in scope when compared to so many other issues in the game.

Should people be able to build on roof tops? no certainly not.

[Dribs]

Originally posted by Siamese:

Yeah, i did say eventually they'd do it.
I don't see this as being a real problem. You can still break in you can still loot you just don't get to move in for good.

No, you cannot loot, because the loot is also unreachable. Because why build an unraidable base if you dont put the loot where no one else can go?

[Dribs]

Originally posted by Pressi:

a month ago i would heavily agree with you but since we have this new flag system now its not that of a big deal anymore. theoretically cou can place your flag in front of your door right now and your loot will be as safe as any other base.


Maybe i should remind you, that there is ALOT more then 15 places where such a base is possible. Every static watchtower can be used too. so there is at least 40 locations.

How many places do you know, where loot (chests etc) can be stored unreachable? I just know one.

If you're talking about "unraidable" in terms of not being able to take over bases via the flag, then every single base could be deemed "unraidable".

However, what I'm talking about are bases you can build on pre-built structures (and in some places in the "environment") where you can put unlimited amount of loot that can never be reached by anyone but yourself and your team. And even if you stop playing, no one can ever take that location from you until the next wipe even if your base deteriorates - because if you put your flag in that location too (why wouldnt you?) it can never be reached. Flags dont deteriorate like structures.

I know people put different value to different issues, but the fact that these bases can be built and only in certain, limited places around the map - makes the game incredibly unbalanced. Other issues however, are the same for everyone.

Also, if you join a server a few months after a wipe, all these locations will be taken, and there's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you can do about it. But the teams that own them, can certainly do you over if you dont have one of these locations (especially if they patch the "floating bases").

There is nothing that annoys me more in this game than seeing these bases in every single one of these locations. Maybe except rubber banding cars. Thats also pretty annoying - but like I said - its the same for everyone.

And PS: To answer your question, I know of about 10-15 places where you can do this. And there are most likely a few more. And yeah, I'm not talking about just making the flag unaccessable, I'm talking about storing all your loot so that no one can ever get to it. No kind of raiding trick up anyones sleeve will get anyone access to that loot - trust me, I know.

[Codewolke]

Originally posted by torq:

Originally posted by Pressi:

a month ago i would heavily agree with you but since we have this new flag system now its not that of a big deal anymore. theoretically cou can place your flag in front of your door right now and your loot will be as safe as any other base.


Maybe i should remind you, that there is ALOT more then 15 places where such a base is possible. Every static watchtower can be used too. so there is at least 40 locations.

How many places do you know, where loot (chests etc) can be stored unreachable? I just know one.

If you're talking about "unraidable" in terms of not being able to take over bases via the flag, then every single base could be deemed "unraidable".

However, what I'm talking about are bases you can build on pre-built structures (and in some places in the "environment") where you can put unlimited amount of loot that can never be reached by anyone but yourself and your team. And even if you stop playing, no one can ever take that location from you until the next wipe even if your base deteriorates - because if you put your flag in that location too (why wouldnt you?) it can never be reached. Flags dont deteriorate like structures.

I know people put different value to different issues, but the fact that these bases can be built and only in certain, limited places around the map - makes the game incredibly unbalanced. Other issues however, are the same for everyone.

Also, if you join a server a few months after a wipe, all these locations will be taken, and there's just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you can do about it. But the teams that own them, can certainly do you over if you dont have one of these locations (especially if they patch the "floating bases").

There is nothing that annoys me more in this game than seeing these bases in every single one of these locations. Maybe except rubber banding cars. Thats also pretty annoying - but like I said - its the same for everyone.

And PS: To answer your question, I know of about 10-15 places where you can do this. And there are most likely a few more. And yeah, I'm not talking about just making the flag unaccessable, I'm talking about storing all your loot so that no one can ever get to it. No kind of raiding trick up anyones sleeve will get anyone access to that loot - trust me, I know.

Dont get me wrong buddy, im totally on your side. 3 months ago i was the guy complaining about unraidable bases on the discussion tab, providing location data to devs which locations can be used for those etc. but nothing happened. but tbh i think they are working on it. i think the flag-system we have right now is their short-time-solution/answer to this big ass problem.
can we talk about specific locations where chests(!) can be placed unreachable? maybe u guys know more then the one i have in mind.

[Siamese]

Originally posted by torq:

Originally posted by Siamese:

Yeah, i did say eventually they'd do it.
I don't see this as being a real problem. You can still break in you can still loot you just don't get to move in for good.

No, you cannot loot, because the loot is also unreachable. Because why build an unraidable base if you dont put the loot where no one else can go?

This is a tiny minority of bases you could raid though is the point.

[Dribs]

Originally posted by Pressi:

Dont get me wrong buddy, im totally on your side. 3 months ago i was the guy complaining about unraidable bases on the discussion tab, providing location data to devs which locations can be used for those etc. but nothing happened. but tbh i think they are working on it. i think the flag-system we have right now is their short-time-solution/answer to this big ass problem.
can we talk about specific locations where chests(!) can be placed unreachable? maybe u guys know more then the one i have in mind.

The chests are unreachable because you cannot physically get to them without building a structure, and without control of the flag you cannot build any structures, and since you cannot physically get to the flag.... yeah.

And I dont know why you keep bringing the flag up. The flag is pretty much meaningless these days. And no, the flag mechanics is not a solution to this problem, not even remotely. In these bases you cant get to them anyway, so new flag mechanics, old flag mechanics - it doesnt matter.

Also, the new flag mechanics was intended to let people keep their bases (or give them a chance to) even if they get robbed, to keep them from leaving the server or the game entirely. However, in my experience, people leave the server or the game entirely because they lose all their loot, never mind their base - so we're just as far with or without it.

If you were giving the devs data on these "unraidable" bases three months ago, I guess you already know these locations no? Because I'm not going to share them here. I dont want people to build on them.

[Dribs]

Originally posted by Siamese:

This is a tiny minority of bases you could raid though is the point.

... and in my opinion, not a good one.