Muscle Mass increase is waaay toooo slow!

[schaad]

How is it possible to reach 5,5,5,5 in attributes if my muscle mass goes up for only 0.1 kg every 6-12 hrs of virtual time? tell me? Devs have you tried this yourselves? I'm starting with 40kg of muscle mass let's say I want to reach 60kg should it really take FOREVER? And then maybe I die and all my gains are reset. Do it yourself. Spend months in real life to gain 20kg of muscle mass in game and then be killed by someone. Are you serious? 0.1kg with total reset after death. I must admit you are brilliant minds don't ya.

[^DreeMax^]

I think you will never be able to reach 5,5,5,5 in stats :) You cant be good at everything, this will be too unbalanced. And currently its actually impossible to have maxed out stats in any way.

[Faustus]

Originally posted by ^FuN^ DreeMax:

I think you will never be able to reach 5,5,5,5 in stats :) You cant be good at everything, this will be too unbalanced. And currently its actually impossible to have maxed out stats in any way.

Wich is a very good thing cuz it would open the Doors for AFK-Skilling with Scripts and Full but empty Servers.

[schaad]

Originally posted by Faustus:

Originally posted by ^FuN^ DreeMax:

I think you will never be able to reach 5,5,5,5 in stats :) You cant be good at everything, this will be too unbalanced. And currently its actually impossible to have maxed out stats in any way.

Wich is a very good thing cuz it would open the Doors for AFK-Skilling with Scripts and Full but empty Servers.

The devs said it was possible, not me. And It seems impossible to max out even just ONE attribute, in this case STR. That's the point.
And when I say max out I mean in a decent time in order to make me ready to fight and then lose my gains and then maybe start again with bodybuilding once I die. Or else you save my actual stats and make me revive in my old body.

[^DreeMax^]

Originally posted by schaad:

Originally posted by Faustus:

Wich is a very good thing cuz it would open the Doors for AFK-Skilling with Scripts and Full but empty Servers.

The devs said it was possible, not me. And It seems impossible to max out even just ONE attribute, in this case STR. That's the point.
And when I say max out I mean in a decent time in order to make me ready to fight and then lose my gains and then maybe start again with bodybuilding once I die. Or else you save my actual stats and make me revive in my old body.

Im pretty sure developers never said you can have maxed out character :) Or I misunderstood you in this one?

[D1nosaur]

I've talked with the lead metabolism programmer and he said that you can theoretically attain all max stats. Currently you cannot level up intelligence so in character creation you need to set it to 5, and everything else how you want. Then comes the looooong journey of getting everything to 5. There are a lot of factors to levelling up your attributes like you always need to have a calorie balance between 0-200 and if you want to level for example strength you need to have more than 100% protein and just punch stuff until you level up. Basically once you have every nutrient at 100+ and a calorie balance of 0-200 you can level up almost anything, but it will take a very long time.

[schaad]

Originally posted by D1nosaur:

I've talked with the lead metabolism programmer and he said that you can theoretically attain all max stats. Currently you cannot level up intelligence so in character creation you need to set it to 5, and everything else how you want. Then comes the looooong journey of getting everything to 5. There are a lot of factors to levelling up your attributes like you always need to have a calorie balance between 0-200 and if you want to level for example strength you need to have more than 100% protein and just punch stuff until you level up. Basically once you have every nutrient at 100+ and a calorie balance of 0-200 you can level up almost anything, but it will take a very long time.

The metabolism leader programmer hasn't tried the thing himself I suppose. The amount of time that it takes is so large (I constantly have all nutrients and calorie balance and constantly train myself) that if you leave it this way I think you have a metabolism expert hired for no purpose because players simply will ignore metabolism...or else you save the progress after death as I said earlier. Try to figure out this by playing yourselves you're making the whole metabolism and attribute levelling a pointless thing.

[schaad]

Let me explain with numbers. What I really did.

I made a char with 3.9 STR - 40kg more or less of muscle mass.

I made second one with 4.5 STR - 60kg of muscle mass, 0.6 STR more than the 1st.

I want to gain 20 kg (0.6 STR) It seems legit it's not that upgrade.

I constantly train have all nutrients calorie balance everything to get the 0.1kg upgrade possible in a number of virtual hours.
I played like 6 to 10 real hours I had 0.4 kg more of muscle mass.

Let's say I manage to get 1 kg of muscle mass per real day. It's gonna take 20 days.

you CANNOT in no way make me spend that amount of time to get 0.6 STR more and then have to do that again if I die, which is the most common thing that happens in a playful hostile environment. That's it.

[Ron]

Originally posted by schaad:

you CANNOT in no way make me spend that amount of time to get 0.6 STR more and then have to do that again if I die, which is the most common thing that happens in a playful hostile environment. That's it.

Not only did D1nosaur give you the answer
(it's all possible, just takes long)

you (unknowingly) found the solution;

DON'T DIE!

After all, the whole point of the game is to survive (as in, live!)

Doesn't that make the game more exciting?

If you get killed, you weren't careful and sneaky enough (or had extremely bad luck)

That said, I completely understand your concern and frustration but this game is still developing and could very well be one of the best open world survival games ever. We just need to ride out the storm called "development" first.

That's it!

[Faustus]

Originally posted by schaad:

Let me explain with numbers. What I really did.

I made a char with 3.9 STR - 40kg more or less of muscle mass.

I made second one with 4.5 STR - 60kg of muscle mass, 0.6 STR more than the 1st.

I want to gain 20 kg (0.6 STR) It seems legit it's not that upgrade.

I constantly train have all nutrients calorie balance everything to get the 0.1kg upgrade possible in a number of virtual hours.
I played like 6 to 10 real hours I had 0.4 kg more of muscle mass.

Let's say I manage to get 1 kg of muscle mass per real day. It's gonna take 20 days.

you CANNOT in no way make me spend that amount of time to get 0.6 STR more and then have to do that again if I die, which is the most common thing that happens in a playful hostile environment. That's it.

Well. 1KG in 20 Day's sounds realistic to me.
I would rather spend the time to train your Real Body instead, but you can't say it is broken because it is realistic. That's the whole point of it.

[schaad]

Originally posted by OG🌲420:

Originally posted by schaad:

you CANNOT in no way make me spend that amount of time to get 0.6 STR more and then have to do that again if I die, which is the most common thing that happens in a playful hostile environment. That's it.

Not only did D1nosaur give you the answer
(it's all possible, just takes long)

you (unknowingly) found the solution;

DON'T DIE!

After all, the whole point of the game is to survive (as in, live!)

Doesn't that make the game more exciting?

If you get killed, you weren't careful and sneaky enough (or had extremely bad luck)

That said, I completely understand your concern and frustration but this game is still developing and could very well be one of the best open world survival games ever. We just need to ride out the storm called "development" first.

That's it!

I hear so much philosophy out there thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Now let's talk about facts. If you want to gain STR is because you want to use that gain to be more copetitive against environment and...yes ...players, but you don't play this game or else you might know that the majority of players is pvp oriented and the majority of private servers are pvp oriented i.e. killing other people and being killed by mechs is fun and if you want to stick to reality well I suggest to deny the possibility to revive. All of us will have just one chance then you can't join the server anymore if you get killed even accidentally by falling. If you want reality. If you want a better gaming experience you need to know the metagame and what people are actually doing in this game. "DON'T DIE" ...oh such a genius. Then tell me why your skills are saved through time and not reset as well for example. Do this and you will really see less people dying maybe. The reality is that you can't take away the time spent for a progress from a player or else you're going to lose the player's interest in using that mechanich of the game i.e. the whole metabolism and upgrading system will result in an absolute pointlessness and fade into oblivion like it was never meant to even exist. "DON'T DIE" gnegnegnegnegne -.-

[Scooty]

Do not forget it will at some point cost more fame to come back with more stuff like all your skills and what not. Not only have they done a real good job at keeping the game playable while under construction, but if that balance did occur it would most likely with the Metabolism/Cooking stuff.
Consider at some point body building could be a thing. There is just so much that is not in yet. What your talking about is probably intended to be an end game feature.

[Ron]

Originally posted by schaad:

Originally posted by OG🌲420:

Not only did D1nosaur give you the answer
(it's all possible, just takes long)

you (unknowingly) found the solution;

DON'T DIE!

After all, the whole point of the game is to survive (as in, live!)

Doesn't that make the game more exciting?

If you get killed, you weren't careful and sneaky enough (or had extremely bad luck)

That said, I completely understand your concern and frustration but this game is still developing and could very well be one of the best open world survival games ever. We just need to ride out the storm called "development" first.

That's it!

but you don't play this game or else you might know that the majority of players is pvp oriented and the majority of private servers are pvp oriented

Oh, I play it; As a survivor. On the weekends in a full official server
(I don't trust private servers)
No PvP for me. I sneak around and avoid all that. Just a survivor. My goal is survival, yours is PvP.
It's all good. I get it.

My point is, your question was answered from a developer. Now what? All the yammering isn't going to change the answer....

[schaad]

Originally posted by OG🌲420:

Originally posted by schaad:

but you don't play this game or else you might know that the majority of players is pvp oriented and the majority of private servers are pvp oriented

Oh, I play it; As a survivor. On the weekends in a full official server
(I don't trust private servers)
No PvP for me. I sneak around and avoid all that. Just a survivor. My goal is survival, yours is PvP.
It's all good. I get it.

My point is, your question was answered from a developer. Now what? All the yammering isn't going to change the answer....

I've been into survival, loneliness and avoiding firearms for the majority of the time spent in this game, otherwise how could I bee so interested in such a role playing aspect (I wanna become a scum personal trainer!) But after hundreds of hours played like a ptsd version of Ed Stafford, I started to meet people I joined a clan and made friends and discovered that the majority of players like pvp also because it is simply a good way to team up and be together enjoying the game. I also play during the week, not only in the weekends. And the fact that a dev answered me doesn't make me feel less frustrated and doesn't solve any problem that I'm legitimately bringing to the surface. I'm just trying to keep this game alive. We are not talking about features that are still to be added in the game because it is on EA. We are talking about a game mechanich that does not represent even an option for the player and so it MUST be changed in order to even exist can you understand this basic concept? No one puts useless features in a game are you conscious of this? There is no use for any of the upgrading mechanichs if you play alone for a few hours in the weekend. What would you use your gains for? Still being alone for a few hours in the weekend. You're soon gonna lose interest in the game I bet. I'm sorry but I play a lot I play with other people and love this game and I'm trying to give good advices based upon FACTS.

[schaad]

Originally posted by schaad:

I feel like the devs took a wrong direction. Let's add objects. All the updates are new objects. Fix the existing features if you want to "survive".

I'm also talking about optimization, the gunplay is awful...there are many things to do instead of making objects rain.

[Ron]

Originally posted by schaad:

Originally posted by schaad:

I feel like the devs took a wrong direction. Let's add objects. All the updates are new objects. Fix the existing features if you want to "survive".

I'm also talking about optimization, the gunplay is awful...there are many things to do instead of making objects rain.

Well, I'm sure this title is going to be quite awesome on release.

And since the Devs are actively working with the community for bug reporting/feedback/suggestions, I'm sure there will be something for every player type on release. It's going to take time though.

We certainly don't want them to rush and release a buggy piece of crap like the open world survival title that just released
(I won't mention the name, think sweden-80's-robots)