Gloves

[Darth Moe]

At some point in the future will gloves have diffrent features?

I think that the MMA glove in particular could be justified as given a small boost to boxing damage. There are several justifications for this but the major one is that without hand protection you are pretty limited with where you can safely punch an enemy combatant without breaking your hand, how hard you can hit him, and how often. Hand protection eliminates all these things. Technically an MMA glove may provide a small degree of cushioning for the defender, but that cusioning is more than off set by the fact that you can hit him a lot harder than you ever could without the gloves, and you can safely strike devastating target locations that would be impossible to hit without gloves, such as the temple. I wouldn't change the fighting mechanics / animations in any way just add in a slight damage bonus maybe as low as +5% or maybe even less than that.

Tactical Gloves on the other hand might actually improve your grip, and provide a cushion for your hand, both of which could slightly improve recoil.

Driving gloves would probably give the most cold weather protection.

Fingerless gloves give hand protection while not interfering with grip, that could improve the speed of some free running movements or reduce the stamina costs of certain actions.

Anyway just a thought.

[DjohDjeen]

Maybe crafting some gloves with nails and so forth would be cool.

Tho honestly I doubt many people will ever try to attack another player with their fists...

I was hoping actually there would be boxing gloves that do way less damage and allow two players to step into the octogone... Am thinking here of mid game stuff that would be more likely to happen on private servers that run events and allow RP and trading etc...

But you make a good point about the MMA gloves.

[Sith Lord]

yup theres a few ways some of the clothes could give a bonus , some of which probably all ready do . its just we dont see a stat gain , like using the "right" cammo clothes for the right environment , but as you mentioned others that give a skill bonus to boxing ect , with the asortment of boots/shoes there could also be one there for better running or endurance.

but as i mentioned some of this is all ready in place as a hiden value , what would be nice to see is a visable value when you examine an item to see if the boots are going to be "squeaky" and therefore no good for stealth , or if the MMA gloves are going to give a negitive to weapon controll

[Darth Moe]

Originally posted by Joejean (Qc):

Maybe crafting some gloves with nails and so forth would be cool.

Tho honestly I doubt many people will ever try to attack another player with their fists...

I was hoping actually there would be boxing gloves that do way less damage and allow two players to step into the octogone... Am thinking here of mid game stuff that would be more likely to happen on private servers that run events and allow RP and trading etc...

But you make a good point about the MMA gloves.

Outside of in-game events like MMA rings I doubt boxing will come up much in PvP as well but outside of PvP boxing is GREAT for taking down pupets potentially scoring some quick gear. Still a highly valued skill and will become even more so when dead player bodies reanimate into zombies so that you can quickly take you gear back from your former self. It requries an investment but it allows to very adaquitely defend yourself without a melee weapon which leaves your slots open for guns. Honestly beating the living tar out of puppets with my bare fists is one of my favorite things to do in this game, the unarmed fighting mechanics in this game are GREAT!

[Chargeman Ken]

gloves in fighting should REDUCED damage. ESPECIALLY the mma gloves. Bare Knuckle is much harsher other than a knuckle duster

[Mikfail]

I had asked about something similar in the past, although my example was bad lol:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/513710/discussions/0/1761356057426826357/

Some of your examples seem a bit off too. Think about it, you are asking for a Boost to damage for using a cushioned glove. What about a nerf to damage & some kind of boost to endurance or stamina usage instead.

There are brass knuckles ingame. Those should maybe have the damage boost instead, although with nerfs to endurance or stamina usage.

Completely agree with you about tactical gloves with guns,

[Darth Moe]

The issue is not so clear it turns out in this clip Joe Rogan conveys a belief that many in the boxing / MMA / Martial Arts community share about gloved vs ungloved fighting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0uTSZfwggk

The conclusion when you punch somebody in the head bare knuckle you can only hit them with a fraction of your power or else you would break your hand. Bare knuckle boxing will also look much worse because it will result in more cutting, bleeding, and scar tissue. But at the same time less powerful head punches along with fewer of them in theory results in less brain trauma which is the more life threatening and most likely to cause serious life long injury. A very common statistic often cited by pro bare knuckle advocates is that there was not a single recorded boxing fatality in the United States before the advent of boxing gloves, however after doing a bit more research the issue is not so clear cut.

https://www.complex.com/sports/2015/11/bare-knuckle-boxing

One major take away from the article is that it can be argued that the reason there were no recorded boxing deaths before 1897 9s that prior to the introduction of gloves there were a lot fewer boxing matches being fought.

You could reasonably make an argument either way. The justifcation for a damage bonus due to wearing MMA gloves is super easy and simple all you would have to say that before you had the gloves you were not punching with you full potential power and now that you have hand protection you are striking with you maximum power. For purely illustrative purposes let's say that without padded gloves you are only punching at 50% power because anymore than that you risk a chance breaking or injuring your hands. Yeah if you add the cushioning of a MMA glove to a punch that is already only being thrown at 50% power to begin with the MMA glove would cushion the blow by quite a bit and signfigantly reduce the damage. However because you have the MMA glove you have no need to throtle back your punches so now you are striking with 90 to 100% of your maximum power and those punches would deal more damage. Brass knuckles would actually take this even one degree higher because now not only can you safely punch with 90 to 100% of your maximum punching power your fist is actually much harder and heavier than it otherwise would be.