I am starving................

[humbukkerz]

...................yeah this is wearing a bit thin and so is my character! lol

Seriously though there are some areas on the map where there is literally nothing to eat! I'm playing single player btw. Went to a 'seaside' town in B4 on the map and all I could find was one carrot! lol No fruit, no corn, no choc bars no animals............one carrot! Come on guys I know it's a survival game but this is literally rediculous! I'm 17 hours in and my character is starving nearly all the time.

The most ironic thing is I hardly ever drink and yet my hydration never seems to drop below 100%?

If I'm missing something please let me know but it seems to me it was a mistake to remove eating puppet meat if there's hardly anything else to eat. Animals are unbelievably rare!

Apart from that I'm doing really well, raided several military bases etc and got some great gear. Really enjoying the game but the food/energy situation is driving me mad!!

[Doc Holliday]

+1 for toning down just HOW much you need to eat and pee in the game. Man it drives me mad.

[flitzpiepe0815]

Originally posted by HardRock:

+1 for toning down just HOW much you need to eat and pee in the game. Man it drives me mad.

I usually eat around three times an ingame day and pee around 3-5 times. Wouldn't consider that to be unnormal.

[humbukkerz]

I wouldn't mind eating all the time if I could find something to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eat! It seemed to be working better in the first few hours and just got progressively worse.

The only time I actually managed to get the energy meter to start increasing was when I ate a ♥♥♥♥ tonne of corn! lol........but it didn't last long

[NorseWwolf]

go in the forest , you can find mushrooms, wild vegetables, around farm often you find, a plant of grap, watermelon and so on , food is not usually difficult to find , when you know how to search/

[humbukkerz]

Originally posted by krissdubai:

go in the forest , you can find mushrooms, wild vegetables, around farm often you find, a plant of grap, watermelon and so on , food is not usually difficult to find , when you know how to search/

Yeah I kinda know how to search to be fair but things like mushrooms don't keep the I am Starving meter down for very long. The area I'm currently in literally has none of that or any farms! I just think the food situation is far too unbalanced unless my character has an issue I'm not aware of. Maybe I'll try a restart.

[flitzpiepe0815]

Originally posted by anfalas:

I wouldn't mind eating all the time if I could find something to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eat! It seemed to be working better in the first few hours and just got progressively worse.

The only time I actually managed to get the energy meter to start increasing was when I ate a ♥♥♥♥ tonne of corn! lol........but it didn't last long

Depends on where you're looking for food. As long as you're not around the coastal areas, there's plenty of fungi in the woods alone. There are literally tons of food around towns / farms, you've got the fish factory, many birds flying around and you can even hunt some bigger animal from time to time.
While some bunkers have nice amounts of canned food I personally wouldn't bother to look for food in buildings. The ratio of "calories per building" is ridiculously low.

Also, keep in mind that jogging and running burn tons of calories, especially when you are carrying a heavy inventory around.
You would probably want to rest for some time or walk slowly in order to give some of the calories the chance not to be burned right away.

The whole system (while being only partly implemented) works actually quite good compared to real life.

You wouldn't go for a 2km jog with a 30kg backpack after eating a bunch of seeds or a pound of steak neither, would you?

I think the problem is, that people are used have waaaaay more simple metabolism mechanics from, like, any other game so it might take some time to understand and work it out.
Took me some time too but now I think the system is great and will become even better when the rework is introduced. Though, it will probably trouble players when they will have to actively watch all their vitamins and such as this is something that you normally don't do in real life.

[Ron]

It's interesting how the different settings in character creation effect the metabolism. It really does seem life like. I know it's not perfect yet and many things are still to be implemented or fixed but so far, so good

My guy is always quite hungry and thirsty. I need to always be thinking ahead about hunting and water sources. It definitely adds immersion to the game.

Many times I've been just on the edge of starvation when all of a sudden an animal appears. Ahhh, saved again.

Scum rocks

[humbukkerz]

Originally posted by flitzpiepe0815:

Originally posted by anfalas:

I wouldn't mind eating all the time if I could find something to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ eat! It seemed to be working better in the first few hours and just got progressively worse.

The only time I actually managed to get the energy meter to start increasing was when I ate a ♥♥♥♥ tonne of corn! lol........but it didn't last long

Depends on where you're looking for food. As long as you're not around the coastal areas, there's plenty of fungi in the woods alone. There are literally tons of food around towns / farms, you've got the fish factory, many birds flying around and you can even hunt some bigger animal from time to time.
While some bunkers have nice amounts of canned food I personally wouldn't bother to look for food in buildings. The ratio of "calories per building" is ridiculously low.

Also, keep in mind that jogging and running burn tons of calories, especially when you are carrying a heavy inventory around.
You would probably want to rest for some time or walk slowly in order to give some of the calories the chance not to be burned right away.

The whole system (while being only partly implemented) works actually quite good compared to real life.

You wouldn't go for a 2km jog with a 30kg backpack after eating a bunch of seeds or a pound of steak neither, would you?

I think the problem is, that people are used have waaaaay more simple metabolism mechanics from, like, any other game so it might take some time to understand and work it out.
Took me some time too but now I think the system is great and will become even better when the rework is introduced. Though, it will probably trouble players when they will have to actively watch all their vitamins and such as this is something that you normally don't do in real life.

Thanks for your post. I am on a coastal trip so that probably hasn't helped. I think I might have found the issue though. My calorie usage stat is 10,617!! lol That would probably explain it. Any idea why it might be that high?

[GERMINAT0R]

you have to search the bushes for olives and you have to take down birds or other animals with bow or spear for meat....

[flitzpiepe0815]

Originally posted by anfalas:

Thanks for your post. I am on a coastal trip so that probably hasn't helped. I think I might have found the issue though. My calorie usage stat is 10,617!! lol That would probably explain it. Any idea why it might be that high?

Cause you're constantly jogging while wearing gear that weighs a ton?

Also, when you're around the coastal areas olives might be a good snack. Collect 20 of them, find yourself a nice picknick spot and eat 'em.

Also, craft a spear and go bird hunting. A single crow will likely feed you for half a day.

[humbukkerz]

Originally posted by flitzpiepe0815:

Originally posted by anfalas:

Thanks for your post. I am on a coastal trip so that probably hasn't helped. I think I might have found the issue though. My calorie usage stat is 10,617!! lol That would probably explain it. Any idea why it might be that high?

Cause you're constantly jogging while wearing gear that weighs a ton?

Also, when you're around the coastal areas olives might be a good snack. Collect 20 of them, find yourself a nice picknick spot and eat 'em.

Also, craft a spear and go bird hunting. A single crow will likely feed you for half a day.

Yeah I'm constantly jogging with gear that weighs a ton for sure, I assumed that's what everyone was doing! lol
Even when I rest I can't seem to get the calorie usage to come down much and it's rising all the time.

Think I'm gonna have to restart before my characters stomach explodes! Thanks for all the replies though guys I appreciate it.

[flitzpiepe0815]

Originally posted by anfalas:

Yeah I'm constantly jogging with gear that weighs a ton for sure, I assumed that's what everyone was doing! lol

At least not unless you've managed to maintain a useful diet. ;)

Originally posted by anfalas:

Even when I rest I can't seem to get the calorie usage to come down much and it's rising all the time.

Actually some of these values sum up and you're still burning calories only by existing. I would stick to the "calory balance" value since it's the most important one.
When you planning to go for a longer hike I would suggest to "ramp up" several thousands of "positive" calories (~4k to 5k).
If you have a base you can spend some time crafting or sorting your stuff or something. As you won't have to walk large distances in your base, walking speed won't hurt much and helps you gaining those backup calories.

Originally posted by anfalas:

Think I'm gonna have to restart before my characters stomach explodes! Thanks for all the replies though guys I appreciate it.

Very welcome. I'm sure there are much more players who have spent lots of time figuring out diet plans that are willing to help.

You will probably not have to make a new character but getting back to normal values might take some time (water / sodium, anyone?).

[humbukkerz]

Originally posted by flitzpiepe0815:

Originally posted by anfalas:

Yeah I'm constantly jogging with gear that weighs a ton for sure, I assumed that's what everyone was doing! lol

At least not unless you've managed to maintain a useful diet. ;)

Originally posted by anfalas:

Even when I rest I can't seem to get the calorie usage to come down much and it's rising all the time.

Actually some of these values sum up and you're still burning calories only by existing. I would stick to the "calory balance" value since it's the most important one.
When you planning to go for a longer hike I would suggest to "ramp up" several thousands of "positive" calories (~4k to 5k).
If you have a base you can spend some time crafting or sorting your stuff or something. As you won't have to walk large distances in your base, walking speed won't hurt much and helps you gaining those backup calories.

Originally posted by anfalas:

Think I'm gonna have to restart before my characters stomach explodes! Thanks for all the replies though guys I appreciate it.

Very welcome. I'm sure there are much more players who have spent lots of time figuring out diet plans that are willing to help.

You will probably not have to make a new character but getting back to normal values might take some time (water / sodium, anyone?).

My sodium is on red 217%. From my limited biology knowledge that's salt isn't it? Too little?
Plus my fibre level is green 717%! Think my dietary levels are well and truly ♥♥♥♥♥♥!! lol
I don't have a base and haven't done that much crafting so I guess that's probably where a lot has gone wrong.

[flitzpiepe0815]

Originally posted by anfalas:

My sodium is on red 217%. From my limited biology knowledge that's salt isn't it? Too little?
Plus my fibre level is green 717%! Think my dietary levels are well and truly ♥♥♥♥♥♥!! lol
I don't have a base and haven't done that much crafting so I guess that's probably where a lot has gone wrong.

I wouldn't worry too much about these values since the whole system is being reworked. Though, it won't hurt to train yourself to maintain certain levels already.
There are actually some values that seem to be impossible to reduce at the moment (like fibre) while others simply don't work too correct (like sodium).
For example, in real life you would try to have a healthy balance between sodium and potassium as it regulates the amount of water that is stored in your body.

For now, I would try to train to keep your sodium around 100% and lower. Unfortunately you will most likely have to drink lots of water to be able to reduce your sodium be peeing. But, this will now increase your water levels since potassium doesn't seem to work at the moment. You would now have to reduce your water levels by eating only dry foods (like cornflakes and sunflower seeds) while trying to avoid getting higher sodium levels.

Long story short: don't bother with all of these values too much for now but probably train what food to eat for what purpose.

Maybe you wanna have a look: https://scum.gamepedia.com/Category:Foods_by_nutrition (probably slightly outdated / incomplete).

Edit: don't worry about a base. Hunting mushrooms is also a good situation to walk slowly. Or just tab out of the game and do something else while waiting for those calories to stack.

[Chronic213]

Originally posted by anfalas:

My sodium is on red 217%. From my limited biology knowledge that's salt isn't it? Too little?
Plus my fibre level is green 717%! Think my dietary levels are well and truly ♥♥♥♥♥♥!! lol
I don't have a base and haven't done that much crafting so I guess that's probably where a lot has gone wrong.

Sodium levels are a little wonky right now. My current character just had a "sodium deficiency" at roughly 350% sodium levels, and I've had it as high at about 12K% on another character. You can basically ignore sodium for the time being.

Potatoes are excellent sources of calories. So is anything carb-based (bag of flour, uncle pongs rice, pasta). Also, those yellow mushrooms that look kinda like dead leaves are full of Vit D.

If you go to the Community Guides section in Steam, you can find the "Scumtrition" guide that has a PILE of good info on food values.

But Flitz is right.... coastal areas seem to have less food in my experience.