Counters to Artillery?

[The Hat]

Seeings as strong defenses are the counter to an infantry attack, artillery is needed, it has a roll, but what counters artillery?

I usually say a strong tank push counters artillery, if you can get one coordinated and if you even have tanks. How do you guys counter artillery, when its well defended and shelling your defenses from afar. What strategies do you have, just mass push and hope you can push them out of range?

It'd be nice to have a hard counter, paratroopers, snipers, air raids, anything that can reach the enemy artillery and knock it out of the fight. I know all of these have other issues the minute I type them, no need to remind me, I am grasping at ideas.

[Yodarkore]

Publicado originalmente por Atomine:

Well The arty range needs to be increased 150m isn't enough. Atleast 250m or even more way more. The arty shells are hard to make as it is, with the sulfur rarity.

As for range increase i dont think it fits in the theme of the game, maps are not that big, and you have to be clever on where to put that gun. And its truly a team gun as you cant really use it solo beside on static targets and doing some maths when checking azimuth, you WILL need a teamate to use it efficiently.

So far with my squaddies, even if we like the howitzer we now prefer mortars as those are more accurate and allow a lot of tactical flexibility (mobility).

Hopefully (or sadly, depends on the side :p ) most people doesnt know how to use both howitzer & mortars leading in a waste of shells. Shell rains cant be spammed, when we do mobile mortar squad, its more or the less 1-2h farming for 10 min usage (when undisrupted by either the ennemy or noobs trying to tk you to get the mortar for themself, already happened to me twice, needless to mention i killed those "friendly" bast ards back... :/ )

[Captainn]

Publicado originalmente por Yodarkore:

Publicado originalmente por Atomine:

Well The arty range needs to be increased 150m isn't enough. Atleast 250m or even more way more. The arty shells are hard to make as it is, with the sulfur rarity.

So far with my squaddies, even if we like the howitzer we now prefer mortars as those are more accurate and allow a lot of tactical flexibility (mobility).

That's exactly why I'd like to see Howitzers range increased a bit. Maybe even another 50m would be fine because, as you said, the maps are small. But as it stands they are useless when you can just use a highly mobile Mortor instead.

[Ringo Mandingo]

Publicado originalmente por kampfer91:

Publicado originalmente por Yodarkore:

Just kill the forwad observer with a well deserved frag or bayonett ^^

The forward observer is forced to take risks as binos have +-85m viewrange so (and i do the role sometimes for my squaddies) he's forced to take risks especially on some open maps.

Not that easy to find this person . Unless you also have a binoc .

Usually forward observer stays behind the frontline .

He's not really a forward observer then is he?

[Tribal44]

wait for they run out of shells is usually a good tactic

[Tribal44]

and if they fire at night, it should be ok soon

[The Hat]

Publicado originalmente por ๖Captain ๖n0etics:

Publicado originalmente por Yodarkore:

So far with my squaddies, even if we like the howitzer we now prefer mortars as those are more accurate and allow a lot of tactical flexibility (mobility).

That's exactly why I'd like to see Howitzers range increased a bit. Maybe even another 50m would be fine because, as you said, the maps are small. But as it stands they are useless when you can just use a highly mobile Mortor instead.

Heck no arty is already king. The counters people have mentioned kindly in this thread would become more ineffective the further back it goes.

[Captainn]

Publicado originalmente por The Hat:

Publicado originalmente por ๖Captain ๖n0etics:

That's exactly why I'd like to see Howitzers range increased a bit. Maybe even another 50m would be fine because, as you said, the maps are small. But as it stands they are useless when you can just use a highly mobile Mortor instead.

Heck no arty is already king. The counters people have mentioned kindly in this thread would become more ineffective the further back it goes.

In my experience it's been mortors that dominate the field, not howitzers.

[The Hat]

Publicado originalmente por ๖Captain ๖n0etics:

Publicado originalmente por The Hat:

Heck no arty is already king. The counters people have mentioned kindly in this thread would become more ineffective the further back it goes.

In my experience it's been mortors that dominate the field, not howitzers.

I guess we have different playstyles because I spend most of my time building up towns as a CE. So I see a lot more arty. Once they have arty focused with enough shells, its generally game over for that town. Just honestly what i've seen, constant bombardment once it starts is not uncommon until they work their way to the TH.

[Captainn]

Publicado originalmente por The Hat:

Publicado originalmente por ๖Captain ๖n0etics:

In my experience it's been mortors that dominate the field, not howitzers.

I guess we have different playstyles because I spend most of my time building up towns as a CE. So I see a lot more arty. Once they have arty focused with enough shells, its generally game over for that town. Just honestly what i've seen, constant bombardment once it starts is not uncommon until they work their way to the TH.

I've seen the same situations, but mortors are much more commonly used amongst experienced players over howitzers. One is mobile, one is not, and they both do the same thing.

[Tribal44]

howitze is better, just require more precise calculation if it was used properly, no one would settle in his zone

[Tribal44]

you can t talk about equipment pro and cons until it s used in a optimal way

[Tribal44]

and we r far from it

[Tribal44]

a 10 man clan can line up 4 howitzer, and feed it .. 150m.. that's something

[Captainn]

Publicado originalmente por Tribal44:

howitze is better, just require more precise calculation if it was used properly, no one would settle in his zone

Publicado originalmente por Tribal44:

you can t talk about equipment pro and cons until it s used in a optimal way

Publicado originalmente por Tribal44:

and we r far from it

Publicado originalmente por Tribal44:

a 10 man clan can line up 4 howitzer, and feed it .. 150m.. that's something

you know, you can edit your posts so that there aren't 4 notifications for each sentence you write...

[lercas]

Not sure why people use Howitzers to take out defenses and structures when the Field Artillery is is meant to take out defenses and structures while Howitzers are for infantry.

Wonder why it takes like 12 shells from a Howitzer to take out a TH and why it only takes like 2 to 4 shells with a Field Artillery?