"Campaign Part 2"

[se70co]

Boy this game sure can be frustrating, especially when the tutorial "campaign" is basically impossible. This is my 4th attempt at Campaign Part 2. I have to transport 20 dresses to NYC from Baltimore. I can usually make it to 15 or 17 before the NYC Boss puts a train station in Baltimore, at which point no matter how many bolts of cloth I ship from Pittsburgh to Baltimore, there are no dresses made that I can transport to NYC. Or if they are made, they are being taken by the NYC Boss who has a station in Baltimore before I can put them in my trains. One he puts a station in Baltimore, all I ship to NYC are "goods."


I have to admit, I WANT to like this game, besides the $50 or so it costs, I enjoy train and tycoon style games. But there are SO MANY unrealistic, unlikeable, unusabe, unexplained, or underthought-out parts to this game, I might be binning it. You PC gamers think the menus are klunky? HA! Try it on an Xbox - its so unintuitive and ham-handed it would make you cry.

Honestly, who makes a game where you can only set priorities and not force certain goods to be picked up? Who makes a game that penalizes your score for pausing? But then pauses when you are "constructing" something? And why is so much of the game obsessed with making parallel tracks with signals? Its as though the devs focused so much attention on some really minor "realism" aspects and then completely forgot about 90% of reality. How does a GRASSHOPPER pull 8 carloads of cloth over the Alleghany mountains? But hey boy, you better have a signal and a parallel switch track or else. Oh sorry, yea I know you made the line from Pittsburgh with all that cloth, but were not making any dresses for you, just for the NYC guy. I mean come on!!! This game is a LOSER.

[luckz]

Don't forget to use your hundreds of research points. The things that come after the grasshopper are several times as strong, and cargo favours faster routes.

[se70co]

wouldnt matter. a Grasshopper should in no way ever carry 8 carloads of anything up a hill, its physically impossible, those engines could care 2-3 cars tops on a flat straight-away. Research smesearch, none of that fixes my original probelm, the campaign part 2 for xbox is impossible, once the Don from NYC puts a station in Baltimore, DRESS PRODUCTIONS STOPS!!! I need 20 dresses to fulfill the campaign, cant ever get there. I hate myself for wasting so much time and energy and frustration over a crap simulator/tycoon.

Hello, RE Devs, you are NO SID MEIER! No sir, no sir, no sir!

[akuarmoton]

I don't think the actual gameplay differs from xbox and pc, maybe try to eliminate that nyc boss to prevent him from stealing your dresses?

[luckz]

Maybe you start too late and pay too much for a convoluted path to Pittsburgh?
I'll take a screenshot of a route that allows you to avoid the mountains:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/luckz/screenshot/943936969968153456

[Dray Prescot]

After Baltimore grows some it starts demanding, i.e. consuming, dresses (clothing) for itself, then it becomes much harder to get the dresses in order to deliver them. Part of the trick is to deliver them VERY Early, before Baltimore grows much.

I think that Baltimore starts with some dresses and a small production of them from cloth being transported in overland. Those can be transport by your trains, that are normally express (Mail and Passenger) but let the trains be Automatic Mode if there are Dresses available and empathize clothing or dresses to be carried.

The other thing you might do is hurry up on getting the track link to Pittsburg before Baltimore grows much.

Or you can try to buy the factory that makes them (expensive) and upgrade it (even more expensive) to produce more, but you still need a lot of cloth being delivered, i.e. from Pittsburg.

If you carefully at the contour lines there are some narrow passes that a route to Pittsburg can use, to make it cheaper and faster.

[se70co]

Thanks for all the replies. Sorry If I sound frustrated its because I am. I was hoping this would be a fun game, its not. If its Baltimore thats the culprit, buying too many dresses because the cities demand for them grows, then I guess there isnt much point in playing - its a flawed game. They set up the scenario, but dont even realize how their own game impacts the scenario to the point where you have to game the game in order to play it? Not for me, sorry, this game has too many hoops for me to jump through. I am sure this dress issue is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of playability. I see more frustration icebergs ahead. ahoy matey but Im out. disappointingly.

[wcbarney]

I kinda think maybe you aren't sewing enough dresses in Baltimore that you can ship to New York 'cause you are not delivering enough cloth from Pittsburgh to Baltimore, maybe 'cause you aren't delivering enough wool to Pittsburgh from the sheep farm just south of Pittsburgh.

[NinjaPenguin]

I'm experiencing the same issue. I have Wool going to Pittsburgh, I have Cloth going to Baltimore, and as far as I can tell Clothing is being made in Baltimore, but the trains WILL NOT take any of the clothing up to NY.

I set a 'priority' to do Clothing only, and the train just leaves without taking any goods, as a result.

[Dray Prescot]

I have never seen the NYC RR have a station in Baltimore, and I was a Beta player. Did you build your double track line to NYC first (before him)? (Your message implies that you did).

There is an easy way to keep him out. I think that cities, such as Baltimore, are only allowed to have 2 Rail Road Stations total from all companies in the game. So build a 2nd Rail Road station in Baltimore east of the first and use it for delivering cargo from the rural stations to Baltimore, so that the main station can be dedicated to the Express double track to New York Cuty, and the rail line you need from Pittsburg to deliver cloth to Baltimore (one of the tasks for Chapter 2), which also enables production of more, at a higher rate, clothing (dresses) for delivery to New York City. Just remember that Baltimore will start demanding/consuming clothing (dresses) itself as it grows in size.

[NinjaPenguin]

Originally posted by Dray Prescot:

I have never seen the NYC RR have a station in Baltimore, and I was a Beta player. Did you build your double track line to NYC first (before him)? (Your message implies that you did).

There is an easy way to keep him out. I think that cities, such as Baltimore, are only allowed to have 2 Rail Road Stations total from all companies in the game. So build a 2nd Rail Road station in Baltimore east of the first and use it for delivering cargo from the rural stations to Baltimore, so that the main station can be dedicated to the Express double track to New York Cuty, and the rail line you need from Pittsburg to deliver cloth to Baltimore (one of the tasks for Chapter 2), which also enables production of more, at a higher rate, clothing (dresses) for delivery to New York City. Just remember that Baltimore will start demanding/consuming clothing (dresses) itself as it grows in size.

I think this is the problem I had too - that Baltimore itself was consuming the Clothing as it grew in size!