I'm Confused - I can't fill up my warehouse

[mbutton15]

I have a city that I can't get cattle to quickly enough. I noticed that some trains were not full and I'm aware of the demand at time of load affecting how much goes on a train. So, fair enough, I thought - I'll set up a warehouse linked to the city.

I've now done that and still have trains less than half full. I have 5 trains and the line is literally just the city one end and the farm the other end. It's not even a particularly long line. The city is Albuquerque and the farm is just north of it.

I have adjusted the warehouse to 50, but still don't get full trains. Surely if the warehouse will accept 50 (and the city does keep grabbing what's there) then why can't I get full trains ? What have I not understood ?

SOLVED - The farm couldn't produce enough goods. Upgraded production level and all is happy.

[TrueBlue_Oz]

I think it would be nice to have a large or terminal type station where you can add and expand your storage like you can build a shed on the station as well...

Like maybe 99, then upgrade to 199, then 299 since it would be a city terminal and have the normal warehouses inbetween for smaller stations like farms etc..

[Dray Prescot]

You might have to build a Warehouse that is not in range of any City. I did that in the Mexican Scenario.

[chaney]

If you set the trains to carry Min 8, they should all run full.

If the problem is a bottleneck at the source, then it may take weeks for them to load.

If the source is still low level, that production bottleneck is the problem. You can wait for it to grow or buy it and expand it yourself.

[Dray Prescot]

I realized ( a little before I saw this message) that I have not been considering how to use Warehouses to store resources before they are even demanded near my Cities in Heese, so that they will be locally available as soon as they are demanded. This should allow me to build up stockpiles and keep the resource sites running while I am waiting for the resources to be demanded by the growing Cities. It should make a big difference in getting to the 240k goal a lot faster. It may even help with the 10 Cities at 120k task as well.

[chaney]

Just remember that you don't get paid for moving goods to your Warehouse, only when the City actually consumes them. That's probably not a huge drag, but on a large scale it can tie up a lot of expense (Warehouse, track, engine, maintenance) that won't be bringing in added income. Just a caveat.

[mbutton15]

Originally posted by chaney:

If the source is still low level, that production bottleneck is the problem. You can wait for it to grow or buy it and expand it yourself.

Ah, I think that will be the problem !!
I have $1/4 billion in the bank so expanding it won't break the bank !!

[Dray Prescot]

But if you OWN the Industry, when does the Industry makes it's profits?

What if you own the Industry and a different Company (than yours) delivers the produced goods to a Warehouse near one of "his" Cities (or vice versa)?

[rff1]

You own something, you get its profits. Money for deliveries goes to whoever does the delivering. Simple.

[rff1]

mbutton15 - A quarter-billion in cash is idle money. Spend a lot on upgrades, new factories and resources, new lines, and more trains. Soon afterwards you'll have $300M or so ...

[chaney]

I'm not certain when an industry gets paid for the goods it produced.

I suspect:

If someone else takes them away to a City or their Warehouse, I suspect they are considered sold either on pickup or delivery, as they would then be owned by the City or competitor's Warehouse.

I doubt you get paid anything net if you pick up goods produced at YOUR rural industry and deliver them to your Warehouse. If a City subsequently uses them, you get paid then, and if your industry consumes them, I'd guess you get "paid" then in the form of a higher profit - i.e. you don't need that industry to pay for the infeed goods.

Anyone test this stuff? Investing in industry is such low direct profit compared with expanding rail networks that I never got that deep into the details, but it would be good to know :)

There is a curious line in the list totaling your company value that I suspect reflects the "value" of goods produced but still sitting unused. I never got a clear picture on that one - or the value of "lines" as differentiated from the track, trains, and Stations that I would think make them up. It's all goods, man?

[mbutton15]

Originally posted by rff1:

mbutton15 - A quarter-billion in cash is idle money. Spend a lot on upgrades, new factories and resources, new lines, and more trains. Soon afterwards you'll have $300M or so ...

I know it's idle money, but I have 200 trains running around already. I buy any auction that comes up now. I've even stopped hiring staff as they just increase revenue !! I have stations in every city, 2 in most. I have some big cities - one peaked at around 200,000 population though it's dropped a bit now as I've been concentrating on other parts of the map. I keep upgrading to the fastest train and have many express routes. All technologies have been unlocked. I'm really just trying to optimise routes and continue to experiment with warehouses, which triggered the OP.

And yeah, I have over £300 million now.

[chaney]

That's a nice state for getting some intuition. Getting that experience will improve your future initial setups for sure :) Try out some different self-set goals and see how far you can push them :)