Trying to get hellfire SMG lv 20 for my siren (lv20)

[CrypticalCrimson]

did the mision to spawn scortch but he's lv 10 im lv 20 why is he like this and i save a quite and he is still lv 10 , if i farm him for hell fire will it come out lower leve below 10 or something cause i dont know why he's only lv 10 and i'. trying to get lv 20 hellfire to help me get through the game to finish the game and level up.

[NeonBright2015]

its impossible dude .-.

[CrypticalCrimson]

Originally posted by NeonBright2015:

its impossible dude .-.

what is . _ . ?

[Kmonk]

At this point, you'll never get a lvl 20 Scorch. On your first playthru, enemies in each area remain at the same level throughout your playthru. So bosses/unique enemies will only appear at the level at which you first encountered them. Thus, the loot they drop will also remain at this level.

On your second (and third) playthrus, enemies will scale to your level. Bosses/unique enemies will ALWAYS spawn at or around your level.

Don't get bogged down trying to farm items on your first playthru:
1)The difficulty is low and doesn't warrant that type of grinding.
2)You will level up so quickly that these items will become useless very quickly.

[rresuggan]

i gave you one when i joined and you kicked me, so no help for you

[ShinkuTear]

Originally posted by Kmonk:

On your second (and third) playthrus, enemies will scale to your level.

You mean Third Playthrough. TVHM doesn't scale with you, only UVHM does... and only if you are Level 50 or higher.

[No.]

Don't bother farming on Normal and TVHM. Normal can literally be completed with pretty much any random weapon at your current level. TVHM shouldn't cause problems as long as you keep a couple purple weapons around your level.

I'd suggest not farming until 72, or if you get to a point where your current guns are too weak and preventing you from completing missions because of that -which shouldn't happen until UVHM-.

[teisintai]

Well, it is possible to get lv20 Hellfire - but not by farming Scorch but by farming lv20 areas - such as Wildlife Exploitation Preserve. But probability of actually getting it is low - as in "you'll level up several times before that" low. And so on for the next areas.
On that note, I recommend you to get Good/Bad Touch from Moxxi - it will be closer to your level, and not too hard to receive. Not as good as Hellfire - but pretty solid elemental SMGs.

[Waste_of_skin]

Personally, the Good Touch seems better to me anyway. I've compared a couple of Hellfire and Good Touch SMG's at the same level and almost all of the stats on the GT were similar, if not better, and the GT has extra critical hit damage, _and_ heals you.

[No.]

Originally posted by Waste_of_skin:

Personally, the Good Touch seems better to me anyway. I've compared a couple of Hellfire and Good Touch SMG's at the same level and almost all of the stats on the GT were similar, if not better, and the GT has extra critical hit damage, _and_ heals you.

The Hellfire stacks burn DoT, and since a siren has a ridiculously high chance of inflicting elemental effects, it turns into a beast. Give it a try while bullet ricochet is enabled; it ends up cleaning half of the screen with pure DoT.

Also, there are half a dozen siren-specific ways of regenerating health, so Moxxi weapons are a bit overkill on the healing department if you're using a siren.

So yeah, while both weapons are about as good stat-wise, I'd say that for the particular case of a siren, a Hellfire will do way better than a Good Touch.

[Waste_of_skin]

To be fair, I wasn't think of a siren specifically, so I didn't try to factor that in at all. But I still like the extra critical hit damage on the GT (I get a lot of criticals :-).

[LakerNinja]

Originally posted by No:

Originally posted by Waste_of_skin:

Personally, the Good Touch seems better to me anyway. I've compared a couple of Hellfire and Good Touch SMG's at the same level and almost all of the stats on the GT were similar, if not better, and the GT has extra critical hit damage, _and_ heals you.

The Hellfire stacks burn DoT, and since a siren has a ridiculously high chance of inflicting elemental effects, it turns into a beast. Give it a try while bullet ricochet is enabled; it ends up cleaning half of the screen with pure DoT.

Also, there are half a dozen siren-specific ways of regenerating health, so Moxxi weapons are a bit overkill on the healing department if you're using a siren.

So yeah, while both weapons are about as good stat-wise, I'd say that for the particular case of a siren, a Hellfire will do way better than a Good Touch.

Maya still outperforms with the Good Touch because the extra crit damage is multiplied by a Cat COM. Also in UVHM and OP levels the DoT from the Hellfire will barely get through the enemy health regen. Not to mention the fact that farming for a perfect Good Touch is easy as cake.

[biscuit]

Just download gibb & level it up . Easy as pie...pie is good...

[No.]

Originally posted by LakerNinja:

Maya still outperforms with the Good Touch because the extra crit damage is multiplied by a Cat COM. Also in UVHM and OP levels the DoT from the Hellfire will barely get through the enemy health regen. Not to mention the fact that farming for a perfect Good Touch is easy as cake.

I guess it depends on your build. I use fire boosting gear with the Hellfire, and with the siren skills plus my class mod, the Hellfire gets a 100% burn chance. The stacking burn damage with my setup is way stronger than the healing of UVHM enemies, which seems equiparable to having all enemies -due to bullet ricochet- being constantly hit by an Infinity. Of course, I'm not aiming for the most overpowered setup ever. If that was the case, I'd be using a Sand Hawk, and not a Hellfire or a Good Touch. Point is, it's a pretty solid weapon with the right setup.

I don't know about perfect Good Touch; can't be bothered to keep reloading the game until I get a specific weapon, so i usually go with whatever random reward I get.

Here are my Hellfire and my Good Touch together:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=455669790

[Nebhead]

Originally posted by No:

I don't know about perfect Good Touch; can't be bothered to keep reloading the game until I get a specific weapon, so i usually go with whatever random reward I get.

Well, the perfect Good Touch would be as many Maliwan parts as possible - Barrel, Stock, Grip. The Sight doesn't have any modifier, except for zoom, so anything you'd prefer there.

As it turns out, the Good Touch always has a Maliwan Barrel (it's a Good Touch specific version of the Maliwan Barrel technically), so you only need to look for a Maliwan Grip and Stock.

Having a Maliwan Grip (looks like a curved foregrip, leading from the Stock to the underside of the Barrel) adds both extra elemental effect chance, aswell as a fairly high reload speed bonus. Worth saying that with guns, matching Grips to the Manufacturer (i.e. Jakobs Grip for Jakobs etc) gives that reload speed bonus and extra magazine size)

I used the Weapon Parts guide that was posted in the guides section for Borderlands 2, which has fully detailed pictures of these parts and what they look like.

Link - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=447124636

However, back on topic, not worth farming the Legendaries, such as the Hellfire, until you're in UVHM (L50+), ideally in the end game state at L72 and the OP levels.

[No.]

Originally posted by Nebhead:

snip

Thanks for the info and the link. I haven't really paid much attention to the whole manufacturer parts aspect of weapons until now.