Gunzerker help please

[Eat3n]

I managed normal mode alright and i'm just into TVHM. My gunzerker does barely any damage, basically next to none because it takes me a year and a half to kill anyone. I have level appropriate weapons, elemental, i slag, and still nothing. I just finished Assassinate the Assassins and with each specific assassin i died at least once with each of them because i'm gunzerking and i can drop their shields but their health takes forever and they kill me. They weren't even higher level than me either, i'm lvl 35 and so were they. In my left hand i have a level 31 Law pistol that does 1,400 some damage which i use for accuracy and damage and in my right hand i'm using a Tediore pistol that does 900 some damage and is shock. I use these weapons because they are the highest damage weapons i have that actually have decent ammo and don't take long to reload. But even with these guns the damage is like nothing. When i go into fight for your life even my rocket launcher which does like 14,000 damage does little damage to enemies. I have points into Money Shot and i have to say, i've heard the hype about it and i think it's mostly BS. With my above setup i heard the money shot sound 5-6 times and despite all the "bonus damage" it did next to nothing. Below is my skill tree setup.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=392427053

Can someone please tell me what i'm doing wrong? It would be most appreciated I've heard that Salvador is basically op and can wipe the floor with everyone but i'm not seeing it.

[Sevrojin]

put all your points into rampage and get perma gunzerking and win

[Sponsored by Kellogg's]

Basically this guy has it down. I experienced the same thing, and this was the solution, otherwise try different combinations of your skillpoints to find the right balance.there are always different ways to be a badass, you just have to try to find them :)

Originally posted by Sevrojin:

put all your points into rampage and get perma gunzerking and win

[St. Brick]

Yo your skill tree is shah-it

[Dee-Jay]

test

[ShinkuTear]

Ditch your Brawn points, max Money Shot and Inconcievable, take everything from All I Need Is One and put it into I'm Your Huckleberry.

Something like http://bl2skills.com/gunzerker.html#055000500005405010000000000000000 thiss.

[Miikaaeeel]

I'd recommend the same thing as Shinku did

[𝕰𝖑𝖜𝖔𝖔𝖉]

money shot is god, what are you talking about

[@lf]

You are wasting points in Brawn, like Shinku pointed out.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=261970629

^ I'm building my Salvador exactly like in this Gunzerker build/guide and following the leveling guide in it ( i'm lvl 33 ) and Salvador owns. I really recommend you check it.

[ApeWithPC]

Similar to shinku's skill tree, but ditch Fill-to-the-Brim and put those 5 points into I'm-Ready-Already, with moneyshot you don't want large magazines, points are better spent in speeding up cooldown.

http://bl2skills.com/gunzerker.html#055000500005005510000000000000000

Also some weapon selection ideas
- slag !!!
- a slag ruby (or grog) in one hand will help you survive a whole lot and apply slag
- the money shot with a jackobs quad or a ravager is something to behold
- (other than a quad jackobs shotty) full auto is the way to go with zerking
- as you level up, focus on pistols while putting points into Divergent-Likeless (grog|ruby + pistol)
- singularity nades are great for zerking, pull them together and blast away (quasar)

A class mod that adds points to money shot is key! A blue Chaotic Evil Monk that adds +6 money shot and buffs fire-rate and crit-hit-damage is the absolute best.

[azxcvbnm321]

If you're just going into TVHM, I do not suggest the money shot build. It is VERY gear dependent and you'll want the Rough Rider shield to get the most out of money shot.

When I first entered TVHM, I had very few decent weapons that were going to be underleveled soon anyway. You can beat the game pretty easily with just green weapons though, however I strongly recommend the Rampage build so that you can perma gunzerk. Money shot is more for a raid-boss run and is great for that because you can self heal easily with grog or rubi and the target is so large that you won't miss your money shots. With trash mobs, I feel there isn't enough consistent healing available to make close up fighting worth the risk. Plus you probably don't have the equipment needed, such as rubi or grog as both will get underleveled and be useless for offensive DPS.

[Waste_of_skin]

If your other gear is around level 31, like the Law, that's probably a big part of your problem. Get some higher level gear. You could use some Gold keys and hope you get something you like.

Also, if you don't know, when you're gunzerking, some skills, etc. supposedly don't work for the off-hand gun, so you might not be doing as much damage as you think you are. Here's a thread in the Gearbox forums about it:

http://oldforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=336790

Edit: Link changed to point to the old Gearbox forums at their new address

[@lf]

Originally posted by azxcvbnm321:

If you're just going into TVHM, I do not suggest the money shot build. It is VERY gear dependent (...)

I agree with this.

@OP
Since you are lvl 35 yet, i think it's too soon to invest points in Money shot. You will want this skill for later, for when you will be a higher lvl and will have better gear, but for now it's just a waste imo.

Check the guide that i posted above, it has a leveling guide that explains very well when it's the right time to start investing in Money shot ( or any other skill ) and what gear you should have/use.
Like i said, i have a Salvador ( lvl 33 atm ) exactly with the same skill tree as in guide and leveling/spending my points like it says in the leveling guide and i'm owning in game.

[Eat3n]

Originally posted by iSlingLead:

Yo your skill tree is shah-it

Thanks for literally contributing nothing to the conversation.

[Eat3n]

Thanks everyone!

Originally posted by azxcvbnm321:

If you're just going into TVHM, I do not suggest the money shot build. It is VERY gear dependent and you'll want the Rough Rider shield to get the most out of money shot.

When I first entered TVHM, I had very few decent weapons that were going to be underleveled soon anyway. You can beat the game pretty easily with just green weapons though, however I strongly recommend the Rampage build so that you can perma gunzerk. Money shot is more for a raid-boss run and is great for that because you can self heal easily with grog or rubi and the target is so large that you won't miss your money shots. With trash mobs, I feel there isn't enough consistent healing available to make close up fighting worth the risk. Plus you probably don't have the equipment needed, such as rubi or grog as both will get underleveled and be useless for offensive DPS.

Originally posted by Alf:

Originally posted by azxcvbnm321:

If you're just going into TVHM, I do not suggest the money shot build. It is VERY gear dependent (...)

I agree with this.

@OP
Since you are lvl 35 yet, i think it's too soon to invest points in Money shot. You will want this skill for later, for when you will be a higher lvl and will have better gear, but for now it's just a waste imo.

Check the guide that i posted above, it has a leveling guide that explains very well when it's the right time to start investing in Money shot ( or any other skill ) and what gear you should have/use.
Like i said, i have a Salvador ( lvl 33 atm ) exactly with the same skill tree as in guide and leveling/spending my points like it says in the leveling guide and i'm owning in game.

Thanks, i think i'm going to go in the direction you guys recommended

Originally posted by Waste_of_skin:

If your other gear is around level 31, like the Law, that's probably a big part of your problem. Get some higher level gear. You could use some Gold keys and hope you get something you like.

Also, if you don't know, when you're gunzerking, some skills, etc. supposedly don't work for the off-hand gun, so you might not be doing as much damage as you think you are. Here's a thread in the Gearbox forums about it:

http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=336790

That really sucks about the off-hand, real boner killer. Only the Law is 31 everything else i have is close to 35. The only reason i keep the Law is because i haven't found any good revolvers that match the stats. I have been using the keys and thus far haven't gotten much that's good.

[Waste_of_skin]

Originally posted by -EAT3N-:

That really sucks about the off-hand, real boner killer.

Yeah, it's kind of a mess. :-) I don't think too much about most of it. Too many details (what works and what doesn't) to try to keep track of it all. The one thing I do keep in mind is that amp shields don't work for the off-hand. That was a real surprise when I first read it, because you still get the visual and audio effects, so it seems like it's working, unless you look at the actual damage numbers.

FYI, Gearbox has just changed their forums (something that has been coming for a while), so the link I posted doesn't work anymore. The old forums are supposed to be available for viewing at a new address, eventually, but I don't think they are yet.