Best support class?

[casion]

I started playing BL2, and i want to play with a support class. What is the best support class? And best skill tree?

[NewTroll]

Maya the Siren. Hands down. The best. None better. Tree doesn't matter so much, though at least some Harmony would probably be appreciated.

My personal ranking on support (co-op) usefulness:
1. Maya
2. Axton
3. Zero
4. Salvadore
5. Gaige
6. Kreig

[Vapor]

I agree with NewTroll

Originally posted by NewTroll:

Maya the Siren. Hands down. The best. None better. Tree doesn't matter so much, though at least some Harmony would probably be appreciated.

My personal ranking on support (co-op) usefulness:
1. Maya
2. Axton
3. Zero
4. Salvadore
5. Gaige
6. Kreig

[kitsch]

yup kinda hard to beat maya the sirens ability to revive another player aslong as you can see them from any distance and distracts enemies using phaselock too.

commandos also pretty good too for distracting enemies,dish
ing out damage and slagging on ultimate mode if you put it on his turret

[Ultra-Keyblade]

Siren is the best support class in the game. You can't do better than her.
She is by far my most favorite class in the game.
My opinion here...but siren is #1 in almost everything in my personal ranking of all the characters.

I also had the most fun with her than any other class but that's just me though. I played all the characters. I liked them all, but not as much as I liked the Siren though (solo or co-op).

[Ping]

for low level, I will say a zerker with hoarder class mod. dem casuls always complain about ammo

[Comissar person[FIN]]

yeah pick siren, i tell you she is a heckava tank, get a shields with huge recharge rate compared to actual shield cap, focuse on perks wich increase your shield aand recharge shield on kill, you have indeed found the ultimate killing machine, aand your ability to heal whole team with class mods makes her even more useful. as siren try to get your hands on vladof infinity pistols, with right perk your friends will never die

[grumpstar]

Originally posted by NewTroll:

Maya the Siren. Hands down. The best. None better. Tree doesn't matter so much, though at least some Harmony would probably be appreciated.

My personal ranking on support (co-op) usefulness:
1. Maya
2. Axton
3. Zero
4. Salvadore
5. Gaige
6. Kreig

oddly, i disagree with this post and believe kreig should be rated a smidge higher. he has an insta-res move and can be used with not great utility but situationally unique. true, that in support sense, hes the support guy who's better off drawing fire and mele range aggro leading from the front of cousre, but he can prevent a whipe in a pinch by sacrificing himself.

[grumpstar]

even though i play zero, hes better off building for pure dps and even more so true in a party. i think his best contribution is by tunnelling damage on individual targets, which is of course good support in the trifecta ideal of tanking, healing and dps. but I think dps should be last place of consideration, even in a fps oriented game. if you are going against mobs that are going to be multiplicative power buffed because of mulitplayer presence, you need to identify who will be drawing fire and how to sustain them as a base priority.

[grumpstar]

maya is irreplacable as the support healer in this game. who is a good candidate for tanking however might be a much longer winded argument, and basically anyone can dps.

[WaxxFetish]

Hoarder Zerk

[MR.hyde]

i thought his name is krieg not kreig?!

[NewTroll]

Originally posted by datiwas:

Originally posted by NewTroll:

Maya the Siren. Hands down. The best. None better. Tree doesn't matter so much, though at least some Harmony would probably be appreciated.

My personal ranking on support (co-op) usefulness:
1. Maya
2. Axton
3. Zero
4. Salvadore
5. Gaige
6. Kreig

oddly, i disagree with this post and believe kreig should be rated a smidge higher. he has an insta-res move and can be used with not great utility but situationally unique. true, that in support sense, hes the support guy who's better off drawing fire and mele range aggro leading from the front of cousre, but he can prevent a whipe in a pinch by sacrificing himself.

I don't care for either Gaige or Krieg in co-op. But the least fun for me is Krieg. Like Gaige with her Anarchy, alot of his damage boosting comes from making kills. So with other players stealing kills it only hurts. Plus it makes Fuel the Rampage much more frustrating to use. Not to mention that co-op revive you mentioned, Redeem the Soul, almost always means I'm the one dying instead of the person I could have just Helped Up instead. And if you're only using him as a DPS boost, the other DPS classes (Zero and Salvadore) do just as much damage, while also boosting thier teammates ion some fashion. If I had to play Krieg co-op, I would just hope my partner was a Maya who didn't mind only slagging and reviving me when I go down.

With Gaige, at least her mildly distracting robot is also mildly distracting off teammates too. Still, teammates are such a nuesance with these two characters! Either just slag for me so I don't have to, or just stay completely out of my way.

[grumpstar]

I don't care for either Gaige or Krieg in co-op. But the least fun for me is Krieg. Like Gaige with her Anarchy, alot of his damage boosting comes from making kills. So with other players stealing kills it only hurts. Plus it makes Fuel the Rampage much more frustrating to use. Not to mention that co-op revive you mentioned, Redeem the Soul, almost always means I'm the one dying instead of the person I could have just Helped Up instead. And if you're only using him as a DPS boost, the other DPS classes (Zero and Salvadore) do just as much damage, while also boosting thier teammates ion some fashion. If I had to play Krieg co-op, I would just hope my partner was a Maya who didn't mind only slagging and reviving me when I go down.

With Gaige, at least her mildly distracting robot is also mildly distracting off teammates too. Still, teammates are such a nuesance with these two characters! Either just slag for me so I don't have to, or just stay completely out of my way. [/quote]
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I spiritually agree with you about kill skills. It did dawn on me a while back the thing I really need to focus my toons on is NOT getting kill skills or becoming too comfortably familiar with them, that way I dont go into a boss fight gimped in my play style and setting myself up for faillure. I have stared quite a bit at Kreig's tress and I really really like the lefthand tree but my god!! its like nearly all kill skills hahah!! except for the stacking of magazine size....I hardly see how that can be so awesome though unless you have some sick fire rate...which ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ enough of course ... is a godforsaken kill skill. so I tend to agree with you on this. But, really, even I dont want to use the kinetic reflection thing on maya because its a halfass kill skill, and thats the lens im viewing the game through personally. kill skill = not even considered.

[grumpstar]

I am pretty sure you can go deep on any tree quite comfortably with Gaige without needing kill skills. anarchy stacking for a while with a quick 1 shot reloader...and then bringing out the heavy crap with deep mags and 'The Better Half' I see her doing very well as dps and carrying some burden of tanking thanks to DT. I am also sure that with some mild discussion and knowlege of party composition DT can be configured to maximize benefit rather than play against other players talents and builds. I am certain she can dump a payload of whoop ass continuously. Seriously. In application Gaiges tier 1 Anarchy is so good it could be set as the last move on the tree, and wanting nothing else would be worth diving through crap to get. I think that makes her the widest open toon in the game for ways to jive in a group and do good things.

[MR.hyde]

Originally posted by datiwas:

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why not use the quote function? (: