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[CrUsHeR]

Pretty much an exploit, but why the hell are there unique quest rewards with random stats that make items 2-3x more powerful?

Some examples:
Orphan Maker - 2x 600k base and 4x 600k with Rustler's prefix
Love Thumper - between 200k base and 578k with 3x Maliwan parts
Swordsplosion - 3x damage with Casual prefix
Most guns - useless if rolled with Slag

Anyone agree that this is the weakest part of the game? Just sucks that all these items can't be obtained as legitimate drops.

[Common]

Yes you should be able to farm quest rewards without reseting UVHM.

[Ashamand]

You can, but you have to manually edit one file and to read only so it doesn't save your progress when you save and quit. After you got whatever parts you need just edit it once more and uncheck read only :P

[CrUsHeR]

Hmm yeah with the almost instant in-game loading times, this becomes actually bearable.
Still leaves the sour taste in the mouth of having to exploit in order to obtain at least average rolls on those gamechanging items, but if that's the only way to go without using actual hacks or cheats then be it so.

[teisintai]

Erm. Praise be for that exploit. Because there are legitimate drops such as Cobra, which you can farm for longer that it takes for redoing all storyline on UVHM =)
Also, some things you can't even normally farm for - I want Tediore E-Tech Stocking Launcher (watched Youtube videos of Gaige using it), guess I'll just be on lookout =)

[CrUsHeR]

I think most "typical" players of this game (which would IMHO be those with a strong Diablo + Quake history) do absolutely not mind running the same areas or bosses a hundred times in a row.

But the restarting of the game to pick up a quest reward is just terrible, and we're not talking about min/maxing some details like wether it has a Jakobs grip or if it has 48% or 49% bonus stats - those items are just useless with the regular rolls, unlike many drops that are mostly optimal at least.

And how high is the chance for a Love Thumper to roll with the 578k roid bonus? 0.1% ?
Then if you figure that your base melee damage is 132k and you get a LT with between 129k-300k instead in about 98% of all quest completions, i think we can say that to obtain a 100% legitimate version with max damage might claim the rest of your life re-playing UVHM without ever getting one.

[Nevander]

You could always drop it in any form and then Gibbed edit the parts you want on it. Not sure if that counts as a cheat or not. You did legit drop the gun, but you just didn't like the way it was generated. It's up to you to decide if it's a cheat or not.

[CrUsHeR]

Well even if you do that thing to set the savegame to read-only, you still have to farm the save/quit button for endless hours so that also is work you have to put in.

IMO once you start editing the game files to circumvene that, you might as well give yourself all the top gear and then stop playing because getting the top gear is the only point of the game :)

So as i and others have said, in future games they have to do what they also did with some other items. First time you get the quest reward, after that you can repeatedly kill the quest boss who then also drops the item.
Also wouldn't hurt if there was some kind of relation between drop chance, rarity, usefulness and effort to reach/kill that boss. For example those Legendary COMs are pretty much free stuff, all you have to do is run in circles through Badlands and clear the Skag spawns, all of which can spawn a Tubby.

At least for me that is the purpose of the game, you kill trashmobs and bosses to get better gear. Which in turn allows you to kill those guys even faster for even better gear, and eventually take on raid bosses solo.
Hacking the files is just against my personal ethics, feels like you are only cheating yourself.

[Waste_of_skin]

Originally posted by teisintai:

Also, some things you can't even normally farm for - I want Tediore E-Tech Stocking Launcher (watched Youtube videos of Gaige using it), guess I'll just be on lookout =)

If you don't know, one of the best places to farm for rocket launchers is the Mercenary Day DLC. The chest after the boss always has 2 of them (along with some of everything else).