Hamachi Issues

[Skoll]

So 2 friends and I have been playing a bit online, although the lag is getting to me. We don't really experience any issues in other games and in BL2 it's more noticable than it should be, even with the three green bars for connection (any actual way to check ping would be nice). I did some reading and apparently using a VPN like Hamachi, Tungle, Evolve etc. seems to solve that issue.

The problem we're having is that nobody can see or join the host in-game when we try to use Hamachi for a LAN game. He first goes into network options and selects LAN, and then hits Continue to resume our multiplayer game. His game doesn't show up in the browser for LAN games though so neither of us can join him. I've also tried doing the shortcut with the hosts Hamachi IP as a launch option thing, and that didn't work either (something about a wrong patch or the like, we're all running the Steam version though, and I'm pretty sure have all the same DLCs, except for maybe Vault hunter pack 2).

We use Hamachi for other games often and everything works without a hitch, so I don't think the issue is not having Hamachi configured correctly. What's odd though is that I can see the host's game when I'm set to look for online games, yet as soon as I try to browse for LAN games it dissappears. This makes me think that the game is not properly being started as a LAN game, or Borderlands 2 is ignoring Hamachi for some reason.

Any tips?

TL;DR: Trying to play over hamachi, nobody can see host's game. Direct connect via shortcut with IP gives the patch mismatch error. Hamachi works fine for other stuff, we don't lag in other games either. Can see host's game when looking for online games, despite him checking LAN in network options before hitting continue. Help would be greatly appreciated.

[Wayward]

Are we talking about the same game here? BL1 copies can be converted into steam keys through a tool available on steam (Library->Tools). BL2 uses steamworks for multiplayer, so what you're describing doesn't exist, or at least in an up to date version of the game. There's simply no point in using Hamachi for BL2.

[Skoll]

Originally posted by HighDarkTemplar:

Are we talking about the same game here? BL1 copies can be converted into steam keys through a tool available on steam (Library->Tools). BL2 uses steamworks for multiplayer, so what you're describing doesn't exist, or at least in an up to date version of the game. There's simply no point in using Hamachi for BL2.

Yes, we're talking about Borderlands 2 GOTYE bought directly from Steam, which all of us own. We're trying to get Hamachi to work as a possible fix to the lag issues since according to some it helps: http://steamcommunity.com/app/49520/discussions/0/864957183052461181/

[Migz - DH]

I have nothing for the VPN troubles you're having, but as far as "lag" is concerned, have you all had the host turn PhysX to low? If you haven't, give it a try. It can't hurt.

If you weren't already aware, what hardware the host machine has and how much effort the host machine has to go through makes a surprising difference in how BL2 plays in co-op.

[Skoll]

Originally posted by Migz - DH:

I have nothing for the VPN troubles you're having, but as far as "lag" is concerned, have you all had the host turn PhysX to low? If you haven't, give it a try. It can't hurt.

If you weren't already aware, what hardware the host machine has and how much effort the host machine has to go through makes a surprising difference in how BL2 plays in co-op.

Thanks, I'll have him try that next time we play. I would think it wouldn't be an issue since he's running with a GTX Titan and some insane 12 core cpu, but it could be worth a shot.

After doing some more browsing some people have said that they still had the host in online mode with everyone running hamachi in the background and that somehow worked for the lag issues. My understanding of Hamachi is that games will only use that network if set to LAN, and doing online mode would "bypass" hamachi but we'll try that as well.

As a side note, does Borderlands 2 just have bad lag compensation or networking issues? Even other unreal engine games like KF have been non-laggy using direct connections. Puzzling to say the least.

[Migz - DH]

<shrug> I have seen a few threads here and there with people complaining about network latency since BL2 released, but neither I, nor any of my various friends who've played it have ever experienced any problems. That's over 1400 hours of combined latency free co-op. So, I don't have any advice for that other than what I wrote above.

The only problems we had were when the host's machine would become bogged down due to too much going on for their system to keep up at high speed.

[Arlend]

Is it possible to play with Hamachi with only one of us having an steam copy of the game?

[Vault Hunter 101]

Don't pirate games, kids

[Snorkel]

Tried Hamachi to deal with other-side-of-the-world lag, but couldn't see each other on LAN.

Tried adding -5.0.0.0* to steam launch options. Tried adding :5.0.0.0 to .exe's shortcut target line.

*except we used the host's Hamachi IP

Anyone had success with Hamachi recently?