I dont get the point of SMGs

[Codiac]

They have terrible damage, but are otherwise essentially the same as rifles, why pick an SMG over a rifle then?

[Stainless Steel Rat]

Not been playing long? Well you will find out just how good SmG's are depending on your build.

[Codiac]

Ive looked through the siren and commando's trees, and see nothing that would make smgs more relevant, unless they have better elemental abilities, which would make them good for certain siren builds. Am I on to something?

[Stainless Steel Rat]

Yes you are.

[lolschrauber]

Originally posted by lock_n_lawl:

Ive looked through the siren and commando's trees, and see nothing that would make smgs more relevant, unless they have better elemental abilities, which would make them good for certain siren builds. Am I on to something?

Siren Class Mods with +90% SMG damage really suck.

Most of the time SMGs have better fire rate and/or accuracy. (except vladof ones)
And they always have higher elemental effect chances.

[roug3lement]

Plasma Casters are of the best E-Tech SMGs. Then there are other useful SMGs like the Florentine, the Slagga, the Florentine which can be obtained from either Seraph Vending Machines or dropped by some Raid Bosses. Babymaker is another great one. Reload your weapon while targeting a Loader and watch it die from a bang.

[dARE]

They shoot faster than ARs, have better DoT damage than ARs, shoot more accurately than ARs, and then there's this:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=256912138

[Diogenes49]

smg 's have a little more accuracy than ar's. but they don't necessicarily have a higher rof, compare a hellfire with a rof of 8 to a shreddifier with a rof of 13.4

[[AJSA]MeloDeath]

lol cause finding an shreddifier is something you do every day............ Other than legendery assault rifles most smgs are superior.

[Random_Gamer_12345]

I'm new to BL2, level 30 gunzerker (or whatever it is) and still got a long way to go.. despite 80+ hours in. In my opinion, smg's are poor unless they have an elemental aspect to them.. e.g. the one I'm using now is good for "against flesh". Also, it's good to have one anyway due to possibly running out of ammo with the other weapons and having the smg as a fallback, before the pistol anyway! :)

[LeggoMyEggo]

You're thinking of just the plain SMG's. Yeah they do suck, but it's the stronger variants of them (E-tech, Seraph, and Legendary) that make them stand out as the game progresses. The Florentine SMG is actually my favorite gun in the game because of it's versatility. Just give it some time, they'll become useful to you in some way.

[[S] Kodama]

As people said, before getting purple or legendary SMG, they are usually nothing special. Same can go for the assault rifle, which also depends what type of class you play and build you have.

But, Moxxi's SMG and Sandhawk one, which they aren't legendary, are quite good, of course along with some others.

People do like SMG because of quite high firing speed, reload, lower recoil, good accuracy (depends on smg ofc), depending on your build too ( like for zero or maya). That doesn't mean AR is garbage, not at all but there will be always pros and cons about specific weapon.

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

it pretty much depends if the SMG is a Maliwan. I say that, is because after watching an entire playthrough for this game on YouTube, using Maya the Siren, the Maliwan SMG's will either have fire, electrical, elemental, or corrosive damage, and it's pretty damn useful depending on the enemies you fight (bosses included)

[ApeWithPC]

Funny, i don't get the point of ARs in this game. why pick an AR over a SMG?

my guess is that lock_n_lawl is playing a commando, early game

[Ultra_phase]

ever heard of the sandhawk?

[Codiac]

Originally posted by Vapor:

Funny, i don't get the point of ARs in this game. why pick an AR over a SMG?

my guess is that lock_n_lawl is playing a commando, early game

I was for a bit(got to lvl 25ish) then I started as a siren, and im loving it. Before now I had never seen a siren class mod, but I jsut got one with +77% smg dammage, so it all makes sense now.