Which tree is better for Krieg, Bloodlust or Hellborn???

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

So i'm a Level-50 Krieg at the moment, and i'm hearing different opinions on which of these 2 skill trees is better for the Psycho Class. I got alot of my points into the Mania tree, just so I can take advantage of the Release-the-Beast skill to regain full health on activation of the Buzz Axe Rampage.

I had started to put points into the Bloodlust tree at one point, but didn't really like some of the skills just to get to the good ones. So I ended up respeccing my points and placed them into the Hellborn Tree instead, since Krieg has skills that'll increase the amount of fire damage he deals (especially if he has Moxxi's Good Touch or the Maliwan HellFire [which I both have]).

So I wanted to hear from you guys, hence the reason why I created this thread.

[76561198157514419]

bloodlust has bloodsplosion. bloodsplosion is krieg. bloodsplosion

[Diggs]

God... Dont listen to people sayiong stuff without explaining.


Lets take a look at the bloodlust tree and the hellfire tree:

Rank 1: -magazine size and weapon swap speed for bloodlust (both pretty much useless)
-mass elemental damge for hellfire

Rank 2: -damage reduction (MAXIMUM 50%) and melee damage (maximum 50%) for bloodlust
-damage reduction (ALWAYS 50%) ALL weapon damage (75%) for hellfire

Rank 3: - increase melee damage and increase grenade damage if you kill with grenades/melee(maximum 50%) (both skill pretty much useless).
Buzz axe bombardier is the first nice skill after investing 10 points in this tree.
- fire rate, weapon accuracy, reload speed and mass elemental effect chance increase

Rank 4: - longest buzz axe rampage for bloodlust
- mass elemental effect duration increase

Rank 5: - reload speed increase for bloodlust
- mass heal wich allow you to litterally tank ANYTHING for hellfire

Rank 6: - bloodsplosion. So after investing 30 points in this tree you have only your second decent skill.
- Raving retribution. So you were able to tank anything? Get a skill that makes AUTOMATICALLY damage ennemies with FIREBALL everytime you take damage and heal you even more!


Hellfire is actually one of the strongest if not the strongest tree in the game. The reason why people dont skill it often is mainly because of misinformation form the communnity and the fact that early on it is a liitle bit hard to pull off.

That said the, two trees are viable mainly because Krieg is incredibly strong in UVHM, so it's up to your own playstyle.

TL;DR: Hellfire is overall stronger than bloodlust, but the two trees are viable.

Hope that help!

[𝕰𝖑𝖜𝖔𝖔𝖉]

bloodsplosion is not 'decent' it's extremely powerful and well worth the points to get to it

hell fire is not one of the strongest trees in the game and not better than the bloodlust tree

Originally posted by Diggs:

God... Dont listen to people sayiong stuff without explaining.

or when people are wrong at what they say

[Popeyes Chicken]

I would put most of your points into Hellfire, and then the remaning on the bloodlust tree.

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by ThatBoyWithoutGlasses:

I would put most of your points into Hellfire, and then the remaning on the bloodlust tree.

thanx!!! I think i'll go with the Hellborn Tree then. because since the difficulty begins to pick up in TVHM, and really messes you up in UVHM, i'd wanna deal as much fire damage as I could possibly dish out.

[𝕰𝖑𝖜𝖔𝖔𝖉]

what are you going to do when you fight fire resistant/immune enemies?

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by ILIFISLM:

what are you going to do when you fight fire resistant/immune enemies?

well I do have shock, corrosive, and slag weapons as backup elements (and explosive too). as well as a Jakobs Striker shotgun that I managed to pick up from a loot midget for the raw damage output (and that's on top of having a Jakobs Skullmasher for sniping).

but then again, I do have a Maliwan HellFire that'll override their fire resistance (which also happened in the original game as well)

[𝕰𝖑𝖜𝖔𝖔𝖉]

this is not the original game. enemies will regen health faster than the damage you'll be doing to them, the resistant enemies. krieg does'n even get any fire damage buffs anyway just buffs when he's on fire

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by ILIFISLM:

this is not the original game. enemies will regen health faster than the damage you'll be doing to them, the resistant enemies. krieg does'n even get any fire damage buffs anyway just buffs when he's on fire

yes I know this isn't the original game, i'm not stupid. but for fire-resistant enemies, I tend to use either shock or corrosive, and if in a pinch, then I use Slag and the DPUH

[76561198157514419]

why switch to other elements when you can throw a explosive axe at them that nothing resists? if you got on release the beast how will you change weapons? mania and hellborne trees dont mix well, they dont compliment each other. mania/bloodlost does, very well infact. all those explosive buffs

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by ElwoodCityDestroyer:

why switch to other elements when you can throw a explosive axe at them that nothing resists? if you got on release the beast how will you change weapons? mania and hellborne trees dont mix well, they dont compliment each other. mania/bloodlost does, very well infact. all those explosive buffs

not to mention, I still have the Bee Shield and the DPUH to dish out a ridiculously high amount of explosive damage (perfect for both mobs and bosses/mini-bosses)

[FreFlo [TTV]]

Don't go Hellborn before level 14. respec is cheap so use it.

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by Bandit:

Don't go Hellborn before level 14. respec is cheap so use it.

uh dude, i'm currently at Level-50 at the moment

[Diggs]

For people wondering about the fire resistant ennemies, dont worry it's not a problem with the raw damage fromk heelfire. When you get a permanent 75% bonus weapon damage it override any kind of resistance.

To give you an idea of how powewrful hellborn tree is I managed, without any grinding or farming of any kind, to go up to OP 4 solo with only level 72 gear. That' how powerful hellborn is. we are talking about just run around not doing anything and kill people. You dont even need to fire bullets or anything.

Yes, i tried the bloodlust tree, and it dosen't come even remotly close to heelborn in damage output or survivability, which is all Krieg is about.

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by Diggs:

For people wondering about the fire resistant ennemies, dont worry it's not a problem with the raw damage fromk heelfire. When you get a permanent 75% bonus weapon damage it override any kind of resistance.

To give you an idea of how powewrful hellborn tree is I managed, without any grinding or farming of any kind, to go up to OP 4 solo with only level 72 gear. That' how powerful hellborn is. we are talking about just run around not doing anything and kill people. You dont even need to fire bullets or anything.

Yes, i tried the bloodlust tree, and it dosen't come even remotly close to heelborn in damage output or survivability, which is all Krieg is about.

the only downside to the Hellborn Tree, is that whenever you yourself are on fire, the burn effect will drain your shields rather quickly (activation of Buzz Axe Rampage/RtB will counter the effects if it drains your health). but other than that, I do agree about how powerful the Tree itself really is (and this is after having tested out both this and the Bloodlust Tree)