Doctor's Orders and Loot Midgets

[SalanMH3]

I have some questions regarding to Doctor's Orders and Loot Midgets:

I am currently level 40 running on TVHM mode and I have not accepted any side quest as I am saving them for 2.5.

I've reached the story mission where to go to Wildlife Exploitation Preserve:

1) Should I accept Doctor's Orders mission so I could farm Midgets along my path and farm legs? The quest says Level 40

2) If I have accepted the quest and then later I reched higher level (let's say level 50), and I want to do the run again, will the Midgets spawn with same level of mine or they will stay as level 40 (since I accepted the quest on that level)?

3) Will enemies on the same area also scale with my level later on or they will remain around level 40? Because I heard it is good also to farm Tuby if he spawn over there?


I know that I should not take any of the echo/slag devices during the run :P

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

This isn't an direct answer to your question, but this is my experience. I have never really found them worthwhile to farm in TVHM. Their loot drops are really unspectacular. In UVHM, it is another story.

[SalanMH3]

Thanks, I am new to BL2 and I have yet to reach UVHM, but I guess I still need to prepare for it. My gear is very average right now and I thought I can do this run to upgrade it.

[Enduro60]

I dont think the LLM drop rate for legendaries is any different in NVHM, TVHM or UVHM. The difference is that in UVHM the loot drops will be closer to your char level and you will get ancient relic drops. Since you are in TVHM at level 40, the WEP drops will be at around level 40. Even if you rank up to 50, the LLMs will still drop at 40. If you desperately need some good gear now then thats fine, but they wont be much use to you once you get up to 5 levels higher.

[BlacKy #SlavaIsraelini]

The loot midgets' lvl is bound to the map's lvl, which in tvhm at the WEP everything is ~40. Accepting Doctor's orders at a different lvl wont make the midgets at a different lvl since they dont scale with anything at TVHM.
*The thing you need to understand in this mission is that you mustnt take any of the 4 ECHOs connected to this mission or else less midgets will spawn (~one midget per ECHO).

1) You can farm them since they drop some special and rare items like ancient relics. Its not a good idea to farm for a while but lets say 5 runs to see what they get, since you will be outleveling the loot pretty fast.

2) No, as i've explained above, they will not scale with you.

3) Not in tvhm since enemies dont scale with you.
Basically in nvhm, enemies are from lvl 1 to 30, at tvhm they're from 30 to 50, and at uvhm they're at your level give or take 2 levels (super badass/rabid animals/raid bosses).

[𝕰𝖑𝖜𝖔𝖔𝖉]

Originally posted by SalanMH3:

I am currently level 40 running on TVHM mode and I have not accepted any side quest as I am saving them for 2.5.

there's no 2.5. there's uvhm after true mode. even if you don't have any of the extra levels dlcs. so there's no reason to save any quests since they will all be level 50s in uvhm.

[reaper three one]

Originally posted by ILIFISLM:

Originally posted by SalanMH3:

I am currently level 40 running on TVHM mode and I have not accepted any side quest as I am saving them for 2.5.

there's no 2.5. there's uvhm after true mode. even if you don't have any of the extra levels dlcs. so there's no reason to save any quests since they will all be level 50s in uvhm.

i guess thats viable

[2proz_itzu]

I always give it a couple runs on every playthrough.. just to see what comes up.. if nothing then fine, but quite often I get something I can use for a little while

['MC' Gizmo]

try to keep 0/4 notes aswell with that quest , i always then have 4 loot midgets but when i take 1 , 2 or 3 notes only 2-3 loot midgets respawn anymore

['MC' Gizmo]

and the side quests that you didn't accepted yet. will turn into lvl 50 in tvhm after you completed the story missions

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

this is the only mission that's considered the easiest way to farm the "Jimmy Jenkins" challenge

[Throat Master]

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[SalanMH3]

Thanks guys for the help.

I have one more thing, what I read that after beating the final boss in TVHM, all the side quests that did not accept will scale to level 50. But do I need to beat the final boss while I am at level 50. I mean, what if I beaten the final boss and I am at level 47, will side quests will scale to only level 47 or they will go to level 50?

[𝕰𝖑𝖜𝖔𝖔𝖉]

final quest will be level 50 regardless of your level

[reaper three one]

it will all scale to lvl 50 after you beat the warrior :)

[Waste_of_skin]

You can go ahead and take the Doctor's Orders mission. There's no reason to save it for the end of TVHM. The mission reward isn't anything special (so the level of the reward doesn't matter), and once you complete the main game in TVHM, all enemies in the main game, including loot midgets, will scale to around level 50.

Originally posted by SalanMH3:

I have one more thing, what I read that after beating the final boss in TVHM, all the side quests that did not accept will scale to level 50. But do I need to beat the final boss while I am at level 50. I mean, what if I beaten the final boss and I am at level 47, will side quests will scale to only level 47 or they will go to level 50?

I can't speak from experience, but someone once posted in the forum here that they had completed TVHM when they were below 50, and the game scaled to their level, instead of 50. So, that _might_ be an issue. The safest thing is to just make sure that you're 50 before you beat the Warrior, but unless you're rushing through the game, that probably won't be an issue.