leveling system is very bad

[Dissection]

I started to play this game after 3 year brake.

Damn I can't progress main story without constantly mobs oversizing me.

Then I go older zones and too low lvl. I cant even do dlcs because I will overlvl them if I keep any brake from them.

Because mobs don't scale everything is messed up.


Im currently lvl 26

[Nakos]

That's because you skipped all the side quests.

You're supposed to do enough side quests to stay on or about the same level as the main mission quest you're currently working on. You don't have to do them all, (and if you know what you're doing, you don't even have to do very many of them), but you do have to do some of them.

They're optional so that you can pick how difficult you want the main missions to be. You can keep yourself at the same level as the main missions, or over-level them, or under-level them (for added challenge). But when you find it getting too difficult, then that's the time you should go do some.

Zones also have a level based on what level you were when you first entered them. So Three Horns is likely to be level 6-8. But Frostburn Canyon will be 1-3 levels higher. The Dust will be a level or two above that. The Bloodshot Dam will be a level or two above that, and then the Tundra Express will be a level or two beyond that. Etc.

If you go back to an older level and just try to shoot ordinary MOBs, then yeah, you won't get valuable experience. If you go to the level right before the last one and re-run the map, things will be closer to your level.

This is the Mission Flow for the game: https://borderlands.fandom.com/wiki/Borderlands_2_mission_flow

It'll tell you what level the quests are nominally supposed to be, and let you pick a zone that's actually useful to you.

TL;DR: Stop skipping all the side quests.

[Dissection]

Yea but rewards are crappy.

Anyway I got to 29 farming frosty boss.
After this I started main and dragon keep dlc.

Rest dlc are ruined because if you start it lvl 14 then it's pointless finish them.


I hope after normal mode mobs scale.

[Nakos]

The primary reward for the side quests is the experience gained.

The gear is largely irrelevant because the gear isn't the point. Even if you're way over-leveled, you still get a fair amount of experience for a quest turn in.

And if you went and started all the DLCs at level 15 then that's on you. That's why they're set that way. If you're level 30, then both the Sir Hammerlock and Tiny Tina DLCs are available.


My point is: If you're going to play the game in a way that works against the quest experience system, then you're going to have trouble leveling. That's a choice you made.


Everything scales automatically in UVHM, the third game mode. In the first two modes (Normal and TVHM) quest and zone levels are fixed. However, at the end of TVHM, when you've completed Talon Of God (the final story mission) then all remaining quests that you have NOT accepted will level up to 50. Back when the game was released, this was sometimes referred to as game mode 2.5.

[Radiowavehero]

Just play the game , there is a lot of game to choose from , not the bare minimum story quests , you will level up easily,

You say the rewards are bad but do you realize most side areas have a bunch of weapon chests at the end of them ? Rather than repeating the same quest over and over you could just play the damn game , explore a little and profit.

Or just treat the game like a job , grind , b!tch about it, rush to get it over with and get paid with your steam awards , sounds pretty miserable to me though.

[Todd]

Find Savage Lee and farm him for an Unkempt Harold. Then go to Tiny Tina's DLC and get the Grog Nozzle. If you're playing Gunzerker you'll be OP with those two weapons.

[Nakos]

Originally posted by Todd:

Find Savage Lee and farm him for an Unkempt Harold. Then go to Tiny Tina's DLC and get the Grog Nozzle. If you're playing Gunzerker you'll be OP with those two weapons.

He's in Normal mode, and he's been skipping all the side quests. Drops from Savage Lee are going to be about level 6ish. They'll be useless to him at whatever level he's managed to reach.

[Todd]

Ah that's right I forgot about that . In normal mode Lee would be at a very low level.

[ChickenBalls]

git gud?

[[Ar]Curry]

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

git gud?

Yeah thats absolutely not helpful. OG made a mistake by just focusing on the main story. So there is no "git gud" here. He IS good at what he's doing, but he's doing not enough, that's it.

[[Ar]Curry]

Originally posted by Dissection:

Yea but rewards are crappy.

yeah, but no. In most cases, you're right. But if you do moxxi's quests or have the option to turn a quest in to moxxi, you can get a moxxi weapon. Almost all of them are good and have build in life steal. You can also tip her money (the jar in front of her in sanctuary in her bar) to get two nice weapons, but this can take some time and your money, because she will give you a weapon by a certain... I call it "drop rate"

[Kobeth]

bl2 has many very good quest rewards both for early and late game, some side quests also give you access to named enemies that drop very good items at all levels, I'm thinking of Boll for exemple who drops the fastball grenade mod that's pretty solid if you're not very good at using the contraband sky rocket. I think the worst part about leveling in bl2 is that it can be pretty tedious because you have to go through several playthrough and there's a general flow that you need to follow because you need to be careful to not be underlevel but also not be too overleveled at certain given times because that can also be detrimental.

[SethRogensMiniVan]

Main menu will have a button called "Select Character" you can start at level 30 if you want to skip the main story/grind and jump into some dlc.

[Nakos]

Originally posted by S.R.M.V:

Main menu will have a button called "Select Character" you can start at level 30 if you want to skip the main story/grind and jump into some dlc.

That's only an option if you own the Commander Lilith DLC.

[SM5T001]

When playing Borderlands games i'm way more often overleveled (i hate it: the game becomes too easy and all the loot becomes underleveled gabrage) than underleveled. This is despite the fact that i'm typically trying to do only those side quests that are "on the way" of the main quest and never touch DLCs before the last playthrough (TVHM/UVHM).

Someone should be really speedrunning the main story to end up being so seriously and frequently underleveled. You are just playing the game in the wrong way.

Originally posted by Dissection:

Then I go older zones and too low lvl.

Don't just go to some random older zone, lol. Just pick some side quest that is around your lvl, it will lead you to the enemies of your lvl.

Btw, in UVHM all the enemies will always scale to your lvl, you may enjoy that more.