Borderlands runs terribly on overkill hardware

[Definitely Lombo]

I'm getting aprox 30-50fps on any video settings during fights on a i7 9700f and AMD 7900xt 20gb with ReBar on.

I've seen that borderlands games are badly optimized for AMD but it should not be giving me close to 30fps on this hardware. I'm also only getting about 40% util on CPU and GPU

[Game1Retroz]

AUGHHH님이 먼저 게시:

I spent hours on experimenting with different things trying to make PhysX playable. As an example, I play with PhysX on High, and made these tweaks (I did some other tweaks as well but these ones matter the most):

MaxParticleResize=0
PhysXGpuHeapSize=256
PhysXMeshCacheSize=16

I tried raising the values of heapsize to cachesize to 2048 and 1024, but that made me drop frames horribly. So I resorted to just multiplying the standard numbers by 2. I have zero frame drops, even if stuff gets crazy in fights. Looks like the perfect settings to me so far. I am on an older GTX970 as well.

I just dropped the view distance from very high to high and turned PhysX back up to medium and now it runs great, even holds 60fps @ 4K now with only minor dips in places, the view distance was what was hammering performance for me.

[AUGHHH]

Game1Retroz님이 먼저 게시:

I just dropped the view distance from very high to high and turned PhysX back up to medium and now it runs great, even holds 60fps @ 4K now with only minor dips in places, the view distance was what was hammering performance for me.

yeah same here, I am on High view distance as well. if you haven't tried tweaking the physx stuff yet, feel free to try my settings above. I'm also running game through DVXK, and additional changes to "[MemoryBudgets]" values.

[ProSauce]

Definitely Lombo님이 먼저 게시:

I'm getting approx 30-50 fps on any video settings during fights on a i7 9700f and AMD 7900xt 20gb with ReBar on.

I've seen that borderlands games are badly optimized for AMD but it should not be giving me close to 30fps on this hardware. I'm also only getting about 40% util on CPU and GPU

I would not necessarily call the 9700F an overkill part being a single threaded processor.
Believe it or not some games not only take advantage of multithreading, some games cannot run well without it...

BL2 is one of those titles...
I would not peg this as your only issue , however it seems likely to be the main culprit...
Also to note, I had the FTW3 1080ti with an 8700k I could achieve around 120-125 fps on ultra settings when I first got the game...
Chipset can also affect performance...

[Definitely Lombo]

I ended up running Vulkan which made me get like 300fps

[Casurin]

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

I would not necessarily call the 9700F an overkill part being a single threaded processor.

how did you come up with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? it is an 8core CPU, easily twice as fast as the fastests availabel desktop CPUs at the release of this game.

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

BL2 is one of those titles...

No it is not, imfamously even so.

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

Also to note, I had the FTW3 1080ti with an 8700k I could achieve around 120-125 fps on ultra settings when I first got the game...

So you got a way weaker system..........

[ProSauce]

Casurin님이 먼저 게시:

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

I would not necessarily call the 9700F an overkill part being a single threaded processor.

how did you come up with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? it is an 8core CPU, easily twice as fast as the fastests availabel desktop CPUs at the release of this game.

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

BL2 is one of those titles...

No it is not, imfamously even so.

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

Also to note, I had the FTW3 1080ti with an 8700k I could achieve around 120-125 fps on ultra settings when I first got the game...

So you got a way weaker system..........

It wasn't way weaker, you obviously lack knowledge in this area, I will now disengage, because all I was trying to do was help, and you had to act like an entitled ass, good luck noob....

[Wiesshund]

for what it is worth
I have an old PC here, Ryzen 5 1500x, Radeon 580 gamer X, 16gb generic ram, X370 chipset
Game runs flawless, way higher than 30 to 50fps

I also have a much newer desktop
Ryzen 5 5600x, Radeon 6750 XT, 32gb of fast ram, x570 chipset.
Game would far outstrip v-sync if i let it, into the realm of stupidly useless frames.

My friend? game ran like arse on his 4070 system, he said the game was crap.
I took an old HDD, put it in his system, did a clean OS and driver install, game ran like a bat out of hell.

He still refuses to wipe and reload his OS.
You can only lead the horse to water

[Casurin]

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

It wasn't way weaker, you obviously lack knowledge in this area, I will now disengage, because all I was trying to do was help, and you had to act like an entitled ass, good luck noob....

Ah, so after i point out that you completely made up everything and that you have no knowledge of the game or computer hardware you got mad and flipped out. And now you are projecting your own faults onto me and running aways like a little kiddo.
Congratulation - you played yourself.

[Game1Retroz]

Casurin님이 먼저 게시:

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

I would not necessarily call the 9700F an overkill part being a single threaded processor.

how did you come up with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? it is an 8core CPU, easily twice as fast as the fastests availabel desktop CPUs at the release of this game.

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

BL2 is one of those titles...

No it is not, imfamously even so.

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

Also to note, I had the FTW3 1080ti with an 8700k I could achieve around 120-125 fps on ultra settings when I first got the game...

So you got a way weaker system..........

I think he meant' the 9700F is single threaded as in for each of it's cores, it might have 8 cores but is single threaded for each of them, I don't agree with Casurin in the regard to the 9700F not using multi-threading being the cause of the performance issues though, the OP has confirmed the issues were fixed by installing installing DXVK.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-9700F+%40+3.00GHz&id=3465

However both CPU's are almost equal in performance (at least for games that require 6 cores), the i7 8700k has higher clock rates and the 9700F has two extra cores, the 9700F uses less power so it has that in it's favour.

A more detailed look:

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-9700F-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700K/m816132vs3937

[Game1Retroz]

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

Definitely Lombo님이 먼저 게시:

I'm getting approx 30-50 fps on any video settings during fights on a i7 9700f and AMD 7900xt 20gb with ReBar on.

I've seen that borderlands games are badly optimized for AMD but it should not be giving me close to 30fps on this hardware. I'm also only getting about 40% util on CPU and GPU

I would not necessarily call the 9700F an overkill part being a single threaded processor.
Believe it or not some games not only take advantage of multithreading, some games cannot run well without it...

BL2 is one of those titles...
I would not peg this as your only issue , however it seems likely to be the main culprit...
Also to note, I had the FTW3 1080ti with an 8700k I could achieve around 120-125 fps on ultra settings when I first got the game...
Chipset can also affect performance...

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-9700F+%40+3.00GHz&id=3465

However both CPU's are almost equal in performance (at least for games that require 6 cores), the i7 8700k has higher clock rates and the 9700F has two extra cores, the 9700F uses less power so it has that in it's favour.

[Game1Retroz]

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

Definitely Lombo님이 먼저 게시:

I'm getting approx 30-50 fps on any video settings during fights on a i7 9700f and AMD 7900xt 20gb with ReBar on.

I've seen that borderlands games are badly optimized for AMD but it should not be giving me close to 30fps on this hardware. I'm also only getting about 40% util on CPU and GPU

I would not necessarily call the 9700F an overkill part being a single threaded processor.
Believe it or not some games not only take advantage of multithreading, some games cannot run well without it...

BL2 is one of those titles...
I would not peg this as your only issue , however it seems likely to be the main culprit...
Also to note, I had the FTW3 1080ti with an 8700k I could achieve around 120-125 fps on ultra settings when I first got the game...
Chipset can also affect performance...

Sorry you are correct the 9700F is indeed single threaded for each of it's cores.

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-9700F+%40+3.00GHz&id=3465

[Radiowavehero]

Casurin님이 먼저 게시:

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

I would not necessarily call the 9700F an overkill part being a single threaded processor.

how did you come up with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? it is an 8core CPU, easily twice as fast as the fastests availabel desktop CPUs at the release of this game.

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

BL2 is one of those titles...

No it is not, imfamously even so.

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

Also to note, I had the FTW3 1080ti with an 8700k I could achieve around 120-125 fps on ultra settings when I first got the game...

So you got a way weaker system..........

ProSauce님이 먼저 게시:

Casurin님이 먼저 게시:

how did you come up with that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? it is an 8core CPU, easily twice as fast as the fastests availabel desktop CPUs at the release of this game.



No it is not, imfamously even so.


So you got a way weaker system..........

It wasn't way weaker, you obviously lack knowledge in this area, I will now disengage, because all I was trying to do was help, and you had to act like an entitled ass, good luck noob....

LMAO that was rich , guy came in here confidently incorrect , tried to act like he was "just trying to help" called the people who corrected him "entitled ass" and "noob" while running away pretending he was still right.

The best part is if they had just read the thread they would have seen the solution was already found , they embarrassed themselves for no purpose.

Gave me a good chuckle.