The trick with the World Traveler achievement.

[Jnc]

Not only you do you need to find all named locations in every area, but you will also need to reveal the complete map of each area in order to unlock it, with no hint as to which location you had previously visited, or whether you have completely revealed all of the map of a given area or not, which is total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ achievement design.
After unlocking it, i want to vent my anger in a constructive way in the hopes of helping other people unlock this damn thing.

If you're struggling,look here:

-Three Horns Valley: a well hidden part of the map with nothing of value, look closely to the south(you can spot the emptiness on your map screen), you should climb a snowy hill that fools you into thinking there is nothing beyond, but lo and behold, some camp on a plateau will be waiting for you there.
♥♥♥♥ took me 7 years to find just now.

-Sawtooth Cauldron: this one's easy because it's a big load of nothingness right in the middle of the map screen.
You get there by riding the elevator in Guano's Grotto, then jumping towards the purported zone of nothingness(look to the minimap) where you will find a disembodied car's trunk.
It's called "Avie's camp".
Easy to miss but not hard to find.
(Note that You need to finish the Sawtooth Cauldron story mission in order to unlock the elevator)

-Eridium Blight: some quirky LOTR reference in the north-west part of the map.
Type "borderlands 2 geary easter egg" on youtube, for a guide on how to get past the deadly lava splashing about the place.
Good luck.

-The Highlands: another well hidden part of the map that you must reveal is called "Whispering Riverbed".
You will pass through the fabled "Whispering Riverbed" during your regular playthrough, but it's very likely you will miss a tiny part of it which you previously had absolutely no incentive to visit because it's completely empty.
This part is located on the eastern edge of the map nearest the northeasternmost catch-a-ride station in the Highlands.

[Renfrew]

You make it seem more complicated than it is. There is a map in your inventory, any dark spots indicate an area you have not uncovered (those dark spots also appear on your mini-map). All you need to do is check if there are any dark spots, then go to them, hence the locations you listed appear as dark spots on the map, and can be checked at a glance; no endlessly running around the map required.

So the steps are easy:
- Fast travel
- Look at the map
- Repeat until you get the achievement


I suppose you could nitpick there isn't a faster way to check a map without travelling there, but it's quick and easy to do and there is no reason to see the map of a location you aren't in (collectibles are tracked differently, leaving only the traveler achievements, which isn't a good justification to make it a feature).

[Jnc]

Renfrew původně napsal:

You make it seem more complicated than it is. There is a map in your inventory, any dark spots indicate an area you have not uncovered (those dark spots also appear on your mini-map). All you need to do is check if there are any dark spots, then go to them

I meant that.
the achievement does not list "reveal 100% of all the maps of all areas" or something like that as a requirement despite it being a requirement(you can discover all locations without getting the achivement which is very confusing)
I got the information from a gamefaqs forum post from 10 years ago.
The Three Horns Valley plateau is not a named location yet i still had to go to it for the achievement, unlike Avie's camp which is a named location.

[Renfrew]

It's well-known at this point (game is from 2012), there are tons of threads on Steam about it. There are also guides in the guides section.

[Radiowavehero]

Some of the achievements just don't pop , I JUST got the achievement No man left behind after hundreds of hours and dozens of playthru's , I actually got the world traveler in like the first week playing just because I love exploring and finding secrets.

In your 7 years of playing it's entirely possibly you should have earned the achievement and it just never kicked in properly.

[Jnc]

Radiowavehero původně napsal:

Some of the achievements just don't pop , I JUST got the achievement No man left behind after hundreds of hours and dozens of playthru's , I actually got the world traveler in like the first week playing just because I love exploring and finding secrets.

In your 7 years of playing it's entirely possibly you should have earned the achievement and it just never kicked in properly.

It could be the case for other achievements, but this is the first time i came across that unnamed useless corner in Three Horns Valley.
I had never seen it before.

[Tulip]

Jnc původně napsal:

Three Horns Valley: a well hidden part of the map with nothing of value, look closely to the south(you can spot the emptiness on your map screen), you should climb a snowy hill that fools you into thinking there is nothing beyond, but lo and behold, some camp on a plateau will be waiting for you there.

If that's the area below Frostsprings, the Cult symbol is located around that hut. It's possible to spot the hut from the valley, and when approaching a Nomad emerges from the door, so although easy to miss there's some indications that it's worth exploring.

Jnc původně napsal:

-Sawtooth Cauldron: this one's easy because it's a big load of nothingness right in the middle of the map screen.
You get there by riding the elevator in Guano's Grotto, then jumping towards the purported zone of nothingness(look to the minimap) where you will find a disembodied car's trunk.
It's called "Avie's camp".
Easy to miss but not hard to find.
(Note that You need to finish the Sawtooth Cauldron story mission in order to unlock the elevator)

That's useful to know, thanks.

I've seen the camp to the south of the starting camp and spotted shock barrels and loot boxes which suggested it *was* a navigable area... so I took a leap of faith and discovered a few more of Kai's echos. Still haven't explored the rest, but knowing an area requires a mission to unlock it can save needlessly wandering around.

Renfrew původně napsal:

There is a map in your inventory, any dark spots indicate an area you have not uncovered (those dark spots also appear on your mini-map).

In Jnc's defence, the dark spots only show unexplored areas, but not how to get to them. I know of one map that had an unexplored area I couldn't get to until a mission was undertaken (think it was Splinter Group) and I wasted some time looking for ways to open doors etc... until the mission unlocked them.

Jnc původně napsal:

-Eridium Blight: some quirky LOTR reference in the north-west part of the map.
Type "borderlands 2 geary easter egg" on youtube, for a guide on how to get past the deadly lava splashing about the place.

I shot and killed Geary, but he was slightly south of the northmost point. I tried to time a run across a beam to get to the two platforms that would enable me to get to the northmost point (presumably for the Volcano challenge) but got cooked and no Geary to second-wind.

Not reattempted it yet, but will check out the video.

(edit) yea gods.. you've got to RUN from Claptrap's all the way to Blight? That's ruled out one afternoon sometime!

Jnc původně napsal:

-The Highlands: another well hidden part of the map that you must reveal is called "Whispering Riverbed".
You will pass through the fabled "Whispering Riverbed" during your regular playthrough, but it's very likely you will miss a tiny part of it which you previously had absolutely no incentive to visit because it's completely empty.
This part is located on the eastern edge of the map nearest the northeasternmost catch-a-ride station in the Highlands.

There's a white chest fully to the east.. is that the area you mean? I don't think it can be seen from the bridge, but I spotted it when I dropped down for a "Winds of the highlands" flag and realised it was safe to traverse.

For a full map view: https://mapgenie.io/borderlands-2/maps/world

Radiowavehero původně napsal:

Some of the achievements just don't pop , I JUST got the achievement No man left behind after hundreds of hours and dozens of playthru's , I actually got the world traveler in like the first week playing just because I love exploring and finding secrets.

Interesting... Jnc's post suggests that World Traveller isn't just about discovering the areas, but having to explore them also. Like some other games, I'm a bit compulsive about exploring all areas for secrets and hidden gems - but it seems just getting "you discovered XXX +136XP!" is insufficient.

[Renfrew]

Tulip původně napsal:

In Jnc's defence, the dark spots only show unexplored areas, but not how to get to them. I know of one map that had an unexplored area I couldn't get to until a mission was undertaken (think it was Splinter Group) and I wasted some time looking for ways to open doors etc... until the mission unlocked them.

Two things wrong with that:
1) Areas being inaccessible until you have progressed is present throughout the entire game. This includes Transitions between levels (e.g. Frostburn Canyon and Tundra Express are visible from Three Horns, but you can't enter them and the button to travel will be missing if you don't have story progress). In other words if you haven't completed all the missions of course you shouldn't be going for this achievement.

2) Of course it's not going to tell you how to unlock an area that's not how a map works. You look at the map and see what paths lead to it, and then look around the area to see how you can progress, it's basic logic.

[Tulip]

Renfrew původně napsal:

2) Of course it's not going to tell you how to unlock an area that's not how a map works. You look at the map and see what paths lead to it, and then look around the area to see how you can progress, it's basic logic.

That's my point. I just thought your advice of "All you need to do is check if there are any dark spots, then go to them" wasn't helpful, especially when those dark spots may not be accessible until much further in the game.

You can go to them as much as you like... but to access them requires you going away from them into another mission and returning later.

[Renfrew]

Tulip původně napsal:

That's my point. I just thought your advice of "All you need to do is check if there are any dark spots, then go to them" wasn't helpful, especially when those dark spots may not be accessible until much further in the game.

You can go to them as much as you like... but to access them requires you going away from them into another mission and returning later.

Why are you addressing half of what I said? I already debunked this:

"Areas being inaccessible until you have progressed is present throughout the entire game. This includes Transitions between levels (e.g. Frostburn Canyon and Tundra Express are visible from Three Horns, but you can't enter them and the button to travel will be missing if you don't have story progress). In other words if you haven't completed all the missions of course you shouldn't be going for this achievement."

The game teaches you all this very early on, Splinter Group, is such an early mission in the game as well as it takes place in Bloodshot Stronghold, so your example even works against you!

Your point is completely invalid.

[Jnc]

Renfrew původně napsal:

Tulip původně napsal:

In Jnc's defence, the dark spots only show unexplored areas, but not how to get to them. I know of one map that had an unexplored area I couldn't get to until a mission was undertaken (think it was Splinter Group) and I wasted some time looking for ways to open doors etc... until the mission unlocked them.

Two things wrong with that:
1) Areas being inaccessible until you have progressed is present throughout the entire game. This includes Transitions between levels (e.g. Frostburn Canyon and Tundra Express are visible from Three Horns, but you can't enter them and the button to travel will be missing if you don't have story progress). In other words if you haven't completed all the missions of course you shouldn't be going for this achievement.

2) Of course it's not going to tell you how to unlock an area that's not how a map works. You look at the map and see what paths lead to it, and then look around the area to see how you can progress, it's basic logic.

Even with all that taken into account, the achievement's requirements are still misleading as you not only need to discover all named locations, but fully reveal all of the map(even unnamed areas you have not incentive to go to).
The achievement says "Discover all named locations"; you could do that and never get the achievement, which leads the player to thinking the achievement's glitched or they are missing something, in turn making them go through every location in order to painstakingly search every corner of every map which is unbearably tedious.
The achievement's requirements are misleading and poorly written in its description.
A simple "Reveal 100% of every map and discover all named locations" would have been great, along with a percentage prompt(in the game's map screen) that tells you how much of any given map you have revealed so you don't have to search every map not knowing which ones you had fully revealed and which maps you didn't.

[Renfrew]

Jnc původně napsal:

Even with all that taken into account, the achievement's requirements are still misleading as you not only need to discover all named locations, but fully reveal all of the map(even unnamed areas you have not incentive to go to).
The achievement says "Discover all named locations"; you could do that and never get the achievement, which leads the player to thinking the achievement's glitched or they are missing something, in turn making them go through every location in order to painstakingly search every corner of every map which is unbearably tedious.
The achievement's requirements are misleading and poorly written in its description.
A simple "Reveal 100% of every map and discover all named locations" would have been great, along with a percentage prompt(in the game's map screen) that tells you how much of any given map you have revealed so you don't have to search every map not knowing which ones you had fully revealed and which maps you didn't.

Oh boy, more repeating.

We've already discussed this. All I have pointed out is you exaggerated how difficult the task is, and there is no "searching every corner of the map", unless of course you don't know how to use the map in your inventory... Which you claim to do, but your comments clearly indicate you don't. Clear user error.

In summary: it's a dead easy achievement, and it's well-known since 2012 that the achievement description is inaccurate.

I also already explained how easy it is to do, and why we don't need map percentages in my very first comment on this thread:

Renfrew původně napsal:

You make it seem more complicated than it is. There is a map in your inventory, any dark spots indicate an area you have not uncovered (those dark spots also appear on your mini-map). All you need to do is check if there are any dark spots, then go to them, hence the locations you listed appear as dark spots on the map, and can be checked at a glance; no endlessly running around the map required.

So the steps are easy:
- Fast travel
- Look at the map
- Repeat until you get the achievement


I suppose you could nitpick there isn't a faster way to check a map without travelling there, but it's quick and easy to do and there is no reason to see the map of a location you aren't in (collectibles are tracked differently, leaving only the traveler achievements, which isn't a good justification to make it a feature).

[Jnc]

Renfrew původně napsal:

Jnc původně napsal:

Even with all that taken into account, the achievement's requirements are still misleading as you not only need to discover all named locations, but fully reveal all of the map(even unnamed areas you have not incentive to go to).
The achievement says "Discover all named locations"; you could do that and never get the achievement, which leads the player to thinking the achievement's glitched or they are missing something, in turn making them go through every location in order to painstakingly search every corner of every map which is unbearably tedious.
The achievement's requirements are misleading and poorly written in its description.
A simple "Reveal 100% of every map and discover all named locations" would have been great, along with a percentage prompt(in the game's map screen) that tells you how much of any given map you have revealed so you don't have to search every map not knowing which ones you had fully revealed and which maps you didn't.

Oh boy, more repeating.

We've already discussed this. All I have pointed out is you exaggerated how difficult the task is, and there is no "searching every corner of the map", unless of course you don't know how to use the map in your inventory... Which you claim to do, but your comments clearly indicate you don't. Clear user error.

No idea why you are deadset on repeatedly defending a poorly-worded achievement that is a pain to obtain but go for it i guess, i don't really care.
This thread was created to help people with it and i'm not going to keep discussing the achievement with you.

[Renfrew]

Jnc původně napsal:

No idea why you are deadset on repeatedly defending a poorly-worded achievement that is a pain to obtain but go for it i guess, i don't really care.

It seems you completely missed the point of my comment, in your haste to be defensive for no reason.

Jnc původně napsal:

This thread was created to help people with it and i'm not going to keep discussing the achievement with you.

And this proves that you missed the point of what I was saying. I suggested a better way of getting the achievement than the method you used. If you are trying to help people, then you would admit that instead of arguing about it...

[Jack of Hearts]

No joke been checking all maps for hours trying to get this achievement, turns out it was the little camp at the bottom of three horns valley 💀 I don't know how I missed it either