(spoilers)request for alternate ending

[Dis-member]

like i said. spoilers.





i want an alternate ending where after you defeat handsome jack you let him stand up and shoot lillith and then you high-five him. and then you get a quest to kill mordecai as well.

[Twitch]

...& despite the fact that it's totally unrealistic to be asking for an alt ending at this point... (Be real the only way thats ever gonna happen is though the modding community and i dunno that anyone is that dedicated to the idea at this point... But it's not out of the realms of possibilities once BL3 is finally released i suppose.)

I can't say it wouldn't be a nice option... Considering this is by anyones definition, a roleplaying FPS, I can't say it wouldn't be a nice OPTION to side with Jack, and play the "bad guy" I actually really like the idea, i think it has alot of potential... Let's see what BL3 brings and maybe for a change people won't have to mod the ♥♥♥♥ out of their games to get what they want? Maybe.

[trukr]

Twitch님이 먼저 게시:

One thing that threw me off about the whole story, unless i missed something or misinterpreted something in the multiple playthroughs i've done, which i'm not saying is impossible... But, from my understanding, there can only ever be one true siren at a time... Yet in BL2, simultaneously, we have angel, lilith, and maya (who in comparison to lilith throughout the the story of bl1, 2, and the pre-sequel is basically totally unrecognised as a charachter, it's like Maya doesn't even exist except for the sake of a mention in a few holotapes scattered around bl2... Considering she's also obviously a siren i would have thought she would come in to play more as a charachter, not only in bl2, but also in the pre-sequel, if she doesn't really step forward as a charachter in BL3... I don't even know wtf the point of her existance is in the series... I would have prefered lilith as a playable siren in BL2 or TPS over a generic noname written into the story for the sake of playing as a siren known as Maya. Which is a shame, because i've left maya as my last charachter to level up in BL2 cause i didn't buy the Krieg dlc but that's the only one i'm missing (hint, hint... Anyone that had a spare krieg charachter pack that they didn't know what to do with like, just saying, i'd really appreciate that ♥♥♥♥) and i'm actually enjoying playing as her, as much as i did Salvador. It just feels really odd to me that she's essentially from what i can tell, left out of the story, completely.

It's like they intentionally left enough room for Lilith to become the villain, and Maya to become the hero of BL3, it makes sense to me, why else would Maya seemingly be so discluded from the story of BL2, and your attention drawn to Claptrap (Who essentially has nothing to do with anything other than... Yeah i got nothing he's just a stupid toaster on a unicycle.) Athena, Wilhelm and the Baroness for TPS?

There can only be SIX at one time, Commandant Steele in Borderlands was a siren also.
Steele, Lilith, Angel and May, leaves three with one young one to replace Steele as one of the six.

Maya could not be in TPS because she was on another planet at that time, she went to Pandora because she heard there was a siren there and wanted to learn about herself and what it meant to be a siren. Borderlands without Claptrap, just no. Athena is a pretty awesome person, more so when you consider her childhood. It took the death of her sister to make her see what the powers that be were really like but she ended up a good one. Wilhelm and Nisha not so much. Aurelia is just a bored planet owning rich woman looking for a thrill. Not necessarily a bad person but not really angelic or anything.

[Twitch]

Nakos님이 먼저 게시:

One of my biggest issues with BL1 is the sniping. I don't know what it is about BL1, but the sniping interface feels clumsy and awkward to me.

I'm used to BL2 and BLPS, I know what I can shoot over, I know where I have to aim to hit a crit spot, I know when and where I have to aim to hit someone who's hiding behind a barricade. If I miss in BL2 or BLPS, it's because the target moved, or because *I* missed. It's my fault.
Bu
t in BL1, I often feel like I'm fighting the interface. I aim at a given spot, but ... sometimes I don't hit, and I can't tell why.

This was my biggest issue with BL1 and why i couldn't tollerate playing through it, i'm sorry but that's cheap artificial difficulty and i haven't got the patience for cheap ♥♥♥♥ games that operate on that kind of level, it's not a challenge, it's broken.

[trukr]

Twitch님이 먼저 게시:

Nakos님이 먼저 게시:

One of my biggest issues with BL1 is the sniping. I don't know what it is about BL1, but the sniping interface feels clumsy and awkward to me.

I'm used to BL2 and BLPS, I know what I can shoot over, I know where I have to aim to hit a crit spot, I know when and where I have to aim to hit someone who's hiding behind a barricade. If I miss in BL2 or BLPS, it's because the target moved, or because *I* missed. It's my fault.
Bu
t in BL1, I often feel like I'm fighting the interface. I aim at a given spot, but ... sometimes I don't hit, and I can't tell why.

This was my biggest issue with BL1 and why i couldn't tollerate playing through it, i'm sorry but that's cheap artificial difficulty and i haven't got the patience for cheap ♥♥♥♥ games that operate on that kind of level, it's not a challenge, it's broken.

REALLY? I don't get it am I that awesome? I did really well sniping, from far off. I loved sniping in Borderlands, a good Jakobs and it only took one shot

[Twitch]

trukr님이 먼저 게시:

Twitch님이 먼저 게시:

One thing that threw me off about the whole story, unless i missed something or misinterpreted something in the multiple playthroughs i've done, which i'm not saying is impossible... But, from my understanding, there can only ever be one true siren at a time... Yet in BL2, simultaneously, we have angel, lilith, and maya (who in comparison to lilith throughout the the story of bl1, 2, and the pre-sequel is basically totally unrecognised as a charachter, it's like Maya doesn't even exist except for the sake of a mention in a few holotapes scattered around bl2... Considering she's also obviously a siren i would have thought she would come in to play more as a charachter, not only in bl2, but also in the pre-sequel, if she doesn't really step forward as a charachter in BL3... I don't even know wtf the point of her existance is in the series... I would have prefered lilith as a playable siren in BL2 or TPS over a generic noname written into the story for the sake of playing as a siren known as Maya. Which is a shame, because i've left maya as my last charachter to level up in BL2 cause i didn't buy the Krieg dlc but that's the only one i'm missing (hint, hint... Anyone that had a spare krieg charachter pack that they didn't know what to do with like, just saying, i'd really appreciate that ♥♥♥♥) and i'm actually enjoying playing as her, as much as i did Salvador. It just feels really odd to me that she's essentially from what i can tell, left out of the story, completely.

It's like they intentionally left enough room for Lilith to become the villain, and Maya to become the hero of BL3, it makes sense to me, why else would Maya seemingly be so discluded from the story of BL2, and your attention drawn to Claptrap (Who essentially has nothing to do with anything other than... Yeah i got nothing he's just a stupid toaster on a unicycle.) Athena, Wilhelm and the Baroness for TPS?

There can only be SIX at one time, Commandant Steele in Borderlands was a siren also.
Steele, Lilith, Angel and May, leaves three with one young one to replace Steele as one of the six.

Maya could not be in TPS because she was on another planet at that time, she went to Pandora because she heard there was a siren there and wanted to learn about herself and what it meant to be a siren. Borderlands without Claptrap, just no. Athena is a pretty awesome person, more so when you consider her childhood. It took the death of her sister to make her see what the powers that be were really like but she ended up a good one. Wilhelm and Nisha not so much. Aurelia is just a bored planet owning rich woman looking for a thrill. Not necessarily a bad person but not really angelic or anything.

Cool, i knew there had to be something i was missing, borderlands without claptrap... I don't think i ever suggested that, agreed, just no. Also agreed, Athena i really don't see as a "bad guy" argueably she is more good than most of the charachters. Wilhelm i never considered innocent, because essentially he's a bandit for hire... Which to me is different from a vault hunter. The Baroness, to me is just bad story telling, honestly she needed to be involved or at least mentioned in Bl2 to be relevant in TPS... & obviously #3. Athena is where the story is at for me, because Wilhelm was just a hired gun. The Baroness is just bad irrelevant writting for the sake of throwing in a few bad jokes to appeal to the "aussie aesthetic" of TPS which personally, as an Aussie, i found the whole aussie angle 2k australia took an offensive bad ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke, they should be ashamed of themselves, as AUSSIES, and i'm glad they had their jobs taken from them because they deserve to be in the dole que after releasing that ♥♥♥♥.

[Twitch]

trukr님이 먼저 게시:

Twitch님이 먼저 게시:

This was my biggest issue with BL1 and why i couldn't tollerate playing through it, i'm sorry but that's cheap artificial difficulty and i haven't got the patience for cheap ♥♥♥♥ games that operate on that kind of level, it's not a challenge, it's broken.

REALLY? I don't get it am I that awesome? I did really well sniping, from far off. I loved sniping in Borderlands, a good Jakobs and it only took one shot

sniping was a bad quotation for that, tbh, i meant to fix it but my drunk ass forgot (sorry) I meant to change it to aiming... FULL STOP.

Compared to bl2... & bare in mind, i played bl2 before bl1 and got accustomed to a far more precise and accurate aiming system compared to bl1... We can all agree "Aim" in bl2 is kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at the best of times. But Bl1 felt like you where fighting the interface and the game itself to actually land a head shot. It was RNG if ever i seen it, because it was not accurate aim. If you're honestly sitting there saying that BL1 had ACCURATE aiming... Sorry i'm just gonna sit here and say ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all day long. Who are you kidding?

It was one's and zero's all the way... It was one of the clunkiest ugliest fps i ever played, it was.. Yes you hit it, or, no, you didn't, & my crosshair could be dead on your nose bone, but i still missed. Atificial dificulty and broke as ♥♥♥♥ by comparison to ANY other fps i've played.

But i will argue, that BL2, (the grind aside) was one of the best FPS i've ever played, hands down, and it actually took me a really long time, to get into it, considering, i don't know how long it's been out, but on it's release i was totally uninterested in it. Nowadays... However...
I could argue with anyone that it is one of the best first person shooters, in history, ever.

I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ love it, and can't wait for BL3.

[trukr]

Twitch님이 먼저 게시:

trukr님이 먼저 게시:

REALLY? I don't get it am I that awesome? I did really well sniping, from far off. I loved sniping in Borderlands, a good Jakobs and it only took one shot

sniping was a bad quotation for that, tbh, i meant to fix it but my drunk ass forgot (sorry) I meant to change it to aiming... FULL STOP.

Compared to bl2... & bare in mind, i played bl2 before bl1 and got accustomed to a far more precise and accurate aiming system compared to bl1... We can all agree "Aim" in bl2 is kind of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ at the best of times. But Bl1 felt like you where fighting the interface and the game itself to actually land a head shot. It was RNG if ever i seen it, because it was not accurate aim. If you're honestly sitting there saying that BL1 had ACCURATE aiming... Sorry i'm just gonna sit here and say ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all day long. Who are you kidding?

https://youtu.be/gBOB4HTcGGU

[Twitch]

Maybe you're that good... Maybe it is infact RNG. Because you're comparing a level 65 to what i already told you was only level 10... I couldn't tolerate playing it for that long. It felt broke as ♥♥♥♥ in comparison to BL2... & i can score nothing but headshots in BL2, so that one minute video, is irrelevant. & for the record, nah i dun like that, that was pretty amatuer... The fact that you missed your first shot on your second target, just emphasises MY point.

[Nakos]

The Boss님이 먼저 게시:

Nakos님이 먼저 게시:

The OP brought something to the table, I disagreed (strongly). I offered relevant details as to why I disagreed. The OP offered conflicting reasons on why he felt as he did. I called him on it.

You've attempted to insert yourself into the conversation, and made some weak attempts to discredit my arguements for reasons that aren't really clear to me, but which seem to involve your own agenda.

I've yet to see what you're bringing to the conversation. You're welcome to enlighten me however.

Bear in mind, I'm not likely to be terribly impressed by unsubstantiated claims that your agenda is more important than mine.

Agenda? Claims? Inserting? Are you just spouting buzzwords hoping I buzz off (get it?).
Clearly my attempts to converse with you were in vain, possibly due to this black and white view you might have, possibly because I simply don't seem to understand your reasoning.

Or, perhaps your "attempts to converse" were in vain because you opened with an ad hominem attack (that’s the part where you compared me to a racist because I had the audacity to question the OP’s faulty logic). You know ... just throwin' it out there. If you honestly were not attempting to be antagonistic then you might want to rethink your conversational overtures.

The Boss님이 먼저 게시:

However it feels to me like you like certain characters or hold a certain opinion and see this thread and most of the OP's reasons on why this would be a cool feature as a personal attack.
If this is the case it explains why you can't see the whole ordeal clearly and continue on this one sided black and white kind of retoric.

Or, perhaps the OP was trying to do the big fight at the end of the Firehawk mission, got knocked into FFYL, and had Lilith steal his kills, and as a result, got frustrated and decided to take out his aggression with his "feature" suggestion. And then the OP went on to refuse to admit/accept the idea that Jack was evil, despite me offering considerable evidence (drawn directly from the game) to the contrary. He then went on to refuse to grasp the idea that Lilith wasn’t evil, but was instead a tarnished anti-hero. You know, that whole shades-of-grey thing you keep insisting I’m too obtuse to be capable of seeing/understanding. (I did mention the thing about ad hominem attacks, right?)

The Boss님이 먼저 게시:

I can definitely understand that you can't see what I'm bringing to the conversation, this is because you either fail to comprehend or properly read my messages.

Ahh… here we are again. What’s this now? Three times, four times? That you’ve failed to actually bring any substantive support for whatever it is your agenda is.

What exactly is it you want to say?

[trukr]

Twitch님이 먼저 게시:

Maybe you're that good... Maybe it is infact RNG. Because you're comparing a level 65 to what i already told you was only level 10... I couldn't tolerate playing it for that long. It felt broke as ♥♥♥♥ in comparison to BL2... & i can score nothing but headshots in BL2, so that one minute video, is irrelevant.

How is it irrelevant, because it does not conform? You tell me there is not accurate aiming and then call the video showing there is irrelevant. It's fine that you don't like it, but don't tell me that crap. You know, it could be you, maybe your mouse set to sensitive, would make aiming twitchy you know. Maybe you made jerky movements, no idea. I can tell you it is not RNG, it is not Morrowind. Once I warm up I can knock out head shots one after another at distance.

[Twitch]

Nakos님이 먼저 게시:

Or, perhaps the OP was trying to do the big fight at the end of the Firehawk mission, got knocked into FFYL, and had Lilith steal his kills, and as a result, got frustrated and decided to take out his aggression with his "feature" suggestion. And then the OP went on to refuse to admit/accept the idea that Jack was evil, despite me offering considerable evidence (drawn directly from the game) to the contrary. He then went on to refuse to grasp the idea that Lilith wasn’t evil, but was instead a tarnished anti-hero. You know, that whole shades-of-grey thing you keep insisting I’m too obtuse to be capable of seeing/understanding. (I did mention the thing about ad hominem attacks, right?)

I'm not gonna try and hide it... I laughed my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ arse off.

[Twitch]

trukr님이 먼저 게시:

Twitch님이 먼저 게시:

Maybe you're that good... Maybe it is infact RNG. Because you're comparing a level 65 to what i already told you was only level 10... I couldn't tolerate playing it for that long. It felt broke as ♥♥♥♥ in comparison to BL2... & i can score nothing but headshots in BL2, so that one minute video, is irrelevant.

How is it irrelevant, because it does not conform? You tell me there is not accurate aiming and then call the video showing there is irrelevant. It's fine that you don't like it, but don't tell me that crap. You know, it could be you, maybe your mouse set to sensitive, would make aiming twitchy you know. Maybe you made jerky movements, no idea. I can tell you it is not RNG, it is not Morrowind. Once I warm up I can knock out head shots one after another at distance.

I don't see it as relevant because you're comparing a level 65 with obvious bad ass levels as an advantage over a level ten. You missed you're first shot, on you're second target... Which everyone can see by your own video... Was DEAD ON POINT, yet still missed... MY point emphasised. You lose.

Got anything more to say?

BL2 was a superior game. End of conversation and for the record i payed 0 attention to what you had to say about morrowind cause let's face it that is about as relevant as your piss weak 1 minute video showing ♥♥♥♥ all but you missing your second shot at level 65. ( Which lets face it, probably isn't even an actual video of YOU.)

[Nakos]

Twitch님이 먼저 게시:

I'm not gonna try and hide it... I laughed my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ arse off.

My aim is to amuse, myself if no one else, but I'm pleased you got a chuckle out of it. ;)

[Twitch]

Nakos님이 먼저 게시:

Twitch님이 먼저 게시:

I'm not gonna try and hide it... I laughed my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ arse off.

My aim is to amuse, myself if no one else, but I'm pleased you got a chuckle out of it. ;)

But you're defending that aim as "true" and not RNG which is what is giving me a chuckle out of it, it's not funny it's kind of pathetic.

[[BRE] Humbert "Le Frog"]

That ain't true(smb had to say it)