Maya is Tina's mum

[Kingofhobos]

kill me

[Emperor of Latrinia]

I can´t recall Maya even being in Tiny Tinas Assault, only Lilith, but its been a while since i have played the dlc. It seems more like Tina has a crush on Maya if you look at the invitation for Maya.

http://imgur.com/QDE5Hp1

[Sirius]

Maya can't be Tina's mom simply because she wasn't even on Pandora and basically grew up in a monastery. She only arrives on Pandora recently for the new vault.

Please explain how she got a child there in that monastery that somehow ends up on Pandora for 13 years before she gets there.

[Kingofhobos]

I'm saying the monestary thing happened before the events of borderlands 1

[dontu_worry]

It is stated ingame that Tina's parents are dead. If you read the placards at her tea setting as Maya, your character instantly dies. Little known easter egg.

[Zen_Disaster]

Messaggio originale di kingofhobos3:

I'm saying the monestary thing happened before the events of borderlands 1

I figured.

I like your interpretation and have frequently wondered if it maybe the case myself. Having played BL1 and BL2 (but not BLTPS), your theory meets with all the existing canon that I can think of. So far as dontu_worry's argument, I'm really unsurre about its validity. This is driven home by its lack of mention and detailed counter-arguments made on both the BL2 wikia and the Reddit BL2 forum - see this page for content and relevant links > http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Is_krieg_tina's_father%3F

[Kingofhobos]

Messaggio originale di dontu_worry:

It is stated ingame that Tina's parents are dead. If you read the placards at her tea setting as Maya, your character instantly dies. Little known easter egg.

But in the audio log we hear that Tina escaped the facility and never actually finds out what happened to her parents. She only assumes they are dead, and let's face it, Tina's not got got all her marbles with her.

[Emperor of Latrinia]

Messaggio originale di kingofhobos3:

But in the audio log we hear that Tina escaped the facility and never actually finds out what happened to her parents. She only assumes they are dead, and let's face it, Tina's not got got all her marbles with her.

Her parents are dead, its said in the game and also the wiki says so.

Besides that, whats with the invitation letter? "I think you are pretty and i like you, do you like me?" seems an odd thing to say to your own mother, even for Tinas standards.

[dontu_worry]

"The most obvious answer is almost always the correct one"

To reach beyond that is bad thinking, and if publisher-intended, bad writing. The writing in this game is crap; a series of flimsy paper facades not connected in any meaninful way. Fortunately, the gameplay is superbe beyond description. And, since it's an action game, they spent their resources where it most counted.

Can this idiotic thread die now, please, and move on to the other side, where hundreds of it's clones decay and are forgotten?

[[F2P] Castel Sant'angelo]

LEL =)))

[weiss]

Plus I think Fishtick is Tina's mother/father, it was recorded on one of the ECHO's.

[dontu_worry]

Messaggio originale di YungGoat:

No. Bump

Pleeze. I give you lejendeerieez?

[Zaphod]

Maya is most certainly not Tina's mom, Tina was born on Pandora, Maya just arrived on Pandora, fled the planet that she came from. Maya would have been like 7 years old when she gave birth, thier age difference... its just not possible.

[Zaphod]

Oh, and what about the Krieg thing, in that lil intro to Krieg video, he meets Maya at the train station, neither of his personalities knows or remembers her...

[Zen_Disaster]

I think it's safe to say Tina and Krieg are "unreliable narrators" in trying to decipher fact from fiction on the parental geneology matter. It stands to reason that they take after their GBX developers in that regard.

[SunDrippedDevil]

So, because two people meet at a train station, they must automatically reproduce?! Nothing in that video implies anything beyond Maya and Krieg meeting at a train station, demonstrating how good they are at killing bandits to each other, and Krieg possibly being infatuated with Maya.

Never mind the fact that, as some have already pointed out, Maya was stuck in a monastery on a different planet, which is backed up by her echo logs.

Never mind the fact that Maya sees Krieg for the first time, on Pandora, after he has already lost his mind. This would contradict the echo log in which (assuming Krieg is Tina's dad) Tina's actual parent tells her to run away. Assuming that Krieg is now the way he is due to those experiments (which the Krieg is Tina's father theory does), Maya and Krieg must have met before Krieg lost his mind, as Tina is clearly alive in that Echo. You'd think at least one of the people would remember reproducing and having a child that is now in her teens. Are you implying that everyone is an unreliable narrator or that neither Maya nor Tina nor Krieg remember the nature of their relationship? The game also repeatedly makes it pretty clear that this is Maya's, Zer0's, and Axton's first time on Pandora, through their echo logs.

Never mind that we actually hear a clip of either Tina's mother or father telling Tina to run before they get experimented on and die. That person clearly sounds neither like Maya nor Krieg (either voice).

Never mind the fact that the player, as Maya, meets Tina for the first time during the mission, "A Train to Catch"...

http://www.emptylifebar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Siren-Char-Prof.jpg

Nevermind the fact that Maya is only 25, so her having a teenage daughter doesn't make much sense. (Unless Maya gave birth at like 13 or 14, assuming Tina is 12. This means that Maya was impregnated while secluded by monks on a different planet. Are you implying that Krieg is a pedophile?)

Never mind the fact that Anthony Burch, writer of Borderlands 2, confirmed that Tina watched her parents die and was subsequently driven insane by it:

http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/2013/06/inside-the-box-fart-jokes-and-tragedy/

"... Tiny Tina tortures an evil bandit named Fleshstick for kicks. It’s over-the-top and, while violent, played pretty much for laughs. That is, until you find out why Tina is torturing Fleshstick: he sold Tina’s parents out to Hyperion, and she had to watch them get tortured to death in front of her (which subsequently shattered her mind and turned her into the person she is now)."

Are you implying that no one on all of Pandora; not Tina, not Maya herself, not Handsome Jack, not Hyperion, and not even Fleshstick himself remembers that Maya is Tina's mother? You'd think that since Sirens are so rare, that since there are only six at any given time in the whole universe, that people would not forget Maya so easily. Why would Maya forget her own daughter?

Never mind that there is absolutely no evidence supporting this theory, and so much discrediting it, even logic and common sense.

Nope, OPs head cannon and fan fiction must be correct. Be careful of meeting OP at a train station; you must then subsequently conceive a child with OP. You might also risk forgetting that you even had the child in the first place.