The Crit, best shock SMG in the game?

[*Logan*]

Besides the annoying 10% chance of that wet crit slipping out of my hands...it's a super powerful shock SMG and it works great with my Mechromancer. It's a Level 53 crit.
Is this the best shock damage SMG? If so, I'm glad I got it. :)

[Sodie]

The Sandhawk paired with the Bee is stronger then the Crit paird with the Bee so no its not the best smg

[dontu_worry]

Logan is picking up nicely where Quagmire left off. The position of Village Idiot is once again filled. We are taking no further applicants.

[Zen_Disaster]

IMHO B_i_t_c_h is best smg in game by far -- crit's good too mainly for Gaige but she risks loosing it all the time. http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Bitch_(Borderlands_2)

[*Logan*]

Originally posted by ۣۜSℐʟᵛR۫(slverslayers):

The Sandhawk paired with the Bee is stronger then the Crit paird with the Bee so no its not the best smg

I have a Level 40 Sandhawk, it's not that great...
Maybe I just need a higher level one.

[*Logan*]

Originally posted by dontu_worry:

Logan is picking up nicely where Quagmire left off. The position of Village Idiot is once again filled. We are taking no further applicants.

It's a simple question you piece of s.hy.t, go fu.k yourself. It's called general discussions.

[*Logan*]

Originally posted by Zen_Master:

IMHO B_i_t_c_h is best smg in game by far -- crit's good too mainly for Gaige but she risks loosing it all the time. http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Bitch_(Borderlands_2)

I have a B.i.t.c.h, it IS pretty good..but the one I have has no elemental damage.

[F3]

Originally posted by ۣۜSℐʟᵛR۫(slverslayers):

The Sandhawk paired with the Bee is stronger then the Crit paird with the Bee so no its not the best smg

sandhawk without the bee still is powerful

[Bringoutyerded]

Originally posted by *Logan*:

Originally posted by ۣۜSℐʟᵛR۫(slverslayers):

The Sandhawk paired with the Bee is stronger then the Crit paird with the Bee so no its not the best smg

I have a Level 40 Sandhawk, it's not that great...
Maybe I just need a higher level one.

I think you've identified the problem there. If you are level 54 but using a level 40 Sandhawk, that's the reason you aren't impressed with the weapon. Once you start seeing a difference of three or four levels between your weapons and your own level, especially in true vault hunter mode like you are playing based on your level and ESPECIALLY in ultra vault hunter mode, it's time to find an on-level replacement which is why farming is popular. [Although the Sandhawk, to my knowledge, really can't be farmed which is why I've found it important not to accept the "Whoops" mission until I'm at a high level. Perhaps someone else can correct me on this].

The Sandhawk is a great weapon. Personally, I prefer it to the Crit which also has its uses.

But...

...few weapons are the cat's meow in all circumstances.Even the vaunted Norfleet (in my own experience). I'm still learning this and trying to figure out all the best weapon vs. baddie vs. strategy vs. character/build matchups.

[csilent]

Tattler anyone?

[*Logan*]

Thanks for the info everyone except dontu_worry, seeing as how he just added another useless troll post to topics as he does.

You are correct bringoutyourded, the sandhawk was earned that way and it's a level 40. It's the only way to get a sandhawk, so now that I am in ultimate vault hunter mode, maybe I should try to get it again.

[z00t]

Is the Crit a decent smg? Yes. Is it better than something like a shock B!tch? No way.
There are other useful shock smg's in the game. The Sandhawk offers potentially huge damage, but really doesn't work well with Gaige and large Anarchy stacks - the flapping bird pattern with a stack of 300+ ends up as a diffuse cloud. Almost useless.
Shock plasma casters, of which the Florentine also has slag.
The Commerce - Assassin unique drop is a decent shock smg.

Lots of choice if you are going for a shock Gaige build. The main problem with the Crit is that it is a once-per-playthrough mission reward, and will not be useful for very long. If you are in UVHM with a level 53 Crit, it will be less useful after 5 levels, and almost completely useless after 10.
The Assasins scale in UVHM - try them for the Commerce and see how it works for you. Otherwise, there are lots of other shock smg's out there. Find a new one, try it out.

[*Logan*]

Hmm, yea having a b!tch with shock would be great, I'll have to check into this Commerce too.
I AM in UVHM and the crit is amazing right now.
Yea I've noticed how guns become useless as you level up, which I guess is why my level 40 Sandhawk sits in my locker in Sanctuary.
Thanks for the info z00t.

[*Logan*]

Originally posted by Zen_Master:

IMHO B_i_t_c_h is best smg in game by far -- crit's good too mainly for Gaige but she risks loosing it all the time. http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Bitch_(Borderlands_2)

Yea I know, I hate this 10% drop, I found my crit gun at my feet this morning after reloading and was like WUT.

[Bringoutyerded]

I've farmed the BNK3R maybe 70 times over the past year in UVHM, both solo and part of co-op and have yet to see the B. drop. YMMV.

Darn random number generator!

[Bear]

Originally posted by Bringoutyerded:

I've farmed the BNK3R maybe 70 times over the past year in UVHM, both solo and part of co-op and have yet to see the B. drop. YMMV.

Darn random number generator!

Same, I've done many a run on the Bunker and the best I got was a Sham with minimal absorb rate.

Ironically, I got a better Sham from the loot train and I've gotten two B_tches drop from Zaford while farming for a Maggie.