Why isn't the DLC's scaling properly?

[HippeusOmega]

For some reason the DLC's aren't scaling for me at all. Despite not going to these areas till after I beat the Warrior at level 31+. But DLCs seem to be hit or miss with scaling. Son of Crawmerex was level 15 still where Hammerlock's DLC for Rough Rider is level 30.

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The Headhunter DLCs are level 15 in NVHM, 30-35 on TVHM, and whatever level you're on in UVHM.

[HippeusOmega]

Originally posted by Hunter in the Green Vest:

The Headhunter DLCs are level 15 in NVHM, 30-35 on TVHM, and whatever level you're on in UVHM.

For some reason they were level 22 for my roommate on NVHM.

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Originally posted by HippeusOmega:

Originally posted by Hunter in the Green Vest:

The Headhunter DLCs are level 15 in NVHM, 30-35 on TVHM, and whatever level you're on in UVHM.

For some reason they were level 22 for my roommate on NVHM.

Which one?

[dontu_worry]

Originally posted by Hunter in the Green Vest:

The Headhunter DLCs are level 15 in NVHM, 30-35 on TVHM, and whatever level you're on in UVHM.

Not quite right. The Torgue and Scarlett DLC start at 15 and scale up to 30 in Normal. I play one or both while going through Normal to fix underlevelling and get better gear before tough storyline segments (WEP, Sawtooth ,etc). Both of these DLC will be set to whatever level between 15 and 30 you first access them. So if you first go to Oasis at lvl 22, it will be at 22. Same for Torgue. Hammerlock and Tina are meant to be played after finishing the normal storyline. They contain spoilers and start at 30, topping out at 35, I think. i save them for TVHM and use them in the same way as I use the other two in Normal. They too will scale to whatever level you first access them, in Normal or True. UVHM scaling is the same across all DLC.

I think that's all correct. Anyone knows better chime in.

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Originally posted by dontu_worry:

Originally posted by Hunter in the Green Vest:

The Headhunter DLCs are level 15 in NVHM, 30-35 on TVHM, and whatever level you're on in UVHM.

Not quite right. The Torgue and Scarlett DLC start at 15 and scale up to 30 in Normal. I play one or both while going through Normal to fix underlevelling and get better gear before tough storyline segments (WEP, Sawtooth ,etc). Both of these DLC will be set to whatever level between 15 and 30 you first access them. So if you first go to Oasis at lvl 22, it will be at 22. Same for Torgue. Hammerlock and Tina are meant to be played after finishing the normal storyline. They contain spoilers and start at 30, topping out at 35, I think. i save them for TVHM and use them in the same way as I use the other two in Normal. They too will scale to whatever level you first access them, in Normal or True. UVHM scaling is the same across all DLC.

I think that's all correct. Anyone knows better chime in.

Ah jeez, for some reason I thought OP was talking about the headhunter DLC. I really don't know why I thought that, lmao. Cursed sleep deprivation.

Anyway, I think you're right for the most part, except Scarlett's. I've only had that one's gear be level 15, but the enemies be higher. That could just be me though.

OP, my guess is that perhaps you went to those DLC beforehand, and they're not re-scaling.

[dontu_worry]

Heh I only have one of those. That was enough of me. I might have two but I never play them. The Sparky Flint one and the Moxxi one, I think. I'm not really sure about first access scaling those DLC, TBH.

[DocStrangelove]

Yeah I'm pretty sure you'd visited those locations before. Once you enter a DLC location--even for 5 seconds, accidentally clicking on one at a fast travel station is enough--their level is frozen for the rest of normal mode.

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Originally posted by dontu_worry:

Heh I only have one of those. That was enough of me. I might have two but I never play them. The Sparky Flint one and the Moxxi one, I think. I'm not really sure about first access scaling those DLC, TBH.

I highly recommend the Mercenery Day one. It's great for quick loot, and the final boss isn't that hard (bring fire). You get a huge chest at the end, that can be farmed (after killing the boss). It's also hilarious, imo.

[HippeusOmega]

Thanks guys!

[LairosTall]

If you don't mind fighting a few bullymong/snowbeasts you can get easy access to 2 red chests and 4 of the basic black chests in the Mercenary Day dlc, a 3rd red chest if you fight a larger group of beasts and snowmen. Just don't talk to Timmothy or the train moves away from the furnace, one of the red chests is behind the sign.

[Waste_of_skin]

The others covered a lot of it, but FWIW ...

In Normal Mode:

The HH DLC's (like Son of Crawmerax) can be level 15 - 35. In my experience, they scale to your level, within that range, the first time that you enter them. But a number of people have reported that a HH DLC was at a lower level than their character (and below the level 35 limit), even though they had never entered them before. So, there does seem to be some kind of glitch that can affect the HH DLC levels in Normal Mode, and it sounds like you might have run into that. FWIW, some said that the DLC was level 15, but I think some reported other levels too (eg. 20-something).

As dontu_worry said, the Pirate and Torgue DLC's range from 15 - 30, and Hammerlock and Tina range from 30 - 35. My impression is that most of the maps in those DLC's scale to your level, within that range, the first time that you enter them. So, for example, if you first enter Oasis (Pirate DLC) at level 20, it will be 20, and stay at that level. But if you wait and don't go to the next map (Wurmwater) until you're level 30, I think it will be 30 (I'm not 100% sure of that).

Once the level is set for a HH map in Normal Mode, it won't change. I think the maps in the other (first 4) DLC's are generally the same, but some might change as you progress through the DLC story missions (there are some maps in the main game that do that).


In TVHM:

The HH DLC's range from 30 - 50, Pirate and Torgue from 30 - 50, and Hammerlock and Tina from 35 - 50. Once the level is set for a HH DLC in TVHM, it doesn't seem to change. So, if you enter Son of Crawmerax at level 40, for example, it will stay level 40. But when you complete the story in the main game, the first 4 DLC's (Pirate, Torgue, Hammerlock and Tina) will scale to 50 (like the main game).

I don't know if the HH DLC's can experience the same level glitch in TVHM. All I can say is that I don't recall seeing anyone report the same problem in TVHM.