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Akoms Jun 17, 2018 @ 11:35am
Some questions about missions order, level
Hey guys, Im a lv.28 Zer0 and Im in first playthrough.
I almost finished my main storyline, just got that mission "Toil and Trouble"

However, I still got some questions about if I should finish main quests or not. A lot of side missions haven't solved yet, and Im wondering that I should better do these side missions before going through the main story, or just keep going and kick the worrier's a$$ .

Ive heard a things called "Level Scaling". But actually I can't understand how it works.
Some side missions rewards (blue gun with red text) are lock in a certain level, also The Infinity I farmed was still in lv.9 requirement.

According to Reddit, Level scaling happens in TVHM(Rush main storylines, then all side missions rewards level will scale to 50, same as UVHM)
And Im not sure if it happens in Normal Mode, too.

1.If yes, did I waste these side missions weapons?(collecting it at a low level)

2.How can I get a HIGH-LEVEL weapons in farming, such like Lv.30 Infinity? I got a lv.9 requirement Rapid Infinity few days ago, when Im lv.20.

3. Same as question 2, how can I get a HIGH-LEVEL Good or Bad Touch from tipping Moxxi?

4.Should I get more better gears before I enter TVHM? Or just get 'em in TVHM?

5.Once I finish the Normal mode and reset to TVHM, the whole story, missions reset, and the creatures get stronger. And It wont affect the worlds of DLCs, am I right?
Tbh Im not sure if I have that patience to play second playthrough, maybe I would just enjoy DLCs.


or these worries above are just nothing to do with Normal Mode, just enjoy the first playthrough?



Hope someone can answer these noob
questions, its kinda complicated to me.

Also apologize for my bad English, Its not my native language tho

Originally posted by Nakos:
I concur with Draekus, try to finish Normal mode as close to level 30 as possible.

The base game has MORE content than is necessary. Let alone throwing in any DLC content. The Story Missions are required, everything else is optional. Do enough go get to the appropriate level for the main story mission, and then move on. Don't worry about skipping optional content in Normal or in TVHM. You can mix it up if you like, but don't expect to be able to do all of it.

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
According to Reddit, Level scaling happens in TVHM(Rush main storylines, then all side missions rewards level will scale to 50, same as UVHM)
And Im not sure if it happens in Normal Mode, too.

1.If yes, did I waste these side missions weapons?(collecting it at a low level)

My recollection is that it does NOT occur in Normal mode.

But regardless, it's not relevant even if it does happen, because you'll be speeding through levels too fast for it to make much difference anyway. It does matter a BIT in TVHM. (First, because back during the original release, TVHM (level 50) was max level. Second (after the introduction of UVHM) it was about getting good gear to begin UVHM with.

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
2.How can I get a HIGH-LEVEL weapons in farming, such like Lv.30 Infinity? I got a lv.9 requirement Rapid Infinity few days ago, when Im lv.20.

The Infinity drops from Doc Mercy. During Normal Mode Doc Mercy will be fixed at level 7-9. Period. It is possible to get a world drop Infinity, but they are very, very rare.

And the bottom line: It's not worth it, the Infinity is crap. Pay less attention to what color your weapons are, and MORE attention to what level they are. The way damage scaling works, weapon level is about the most important thing to keep in mind.

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
3. Same as question 2, how can I get a HIGH-LEVEL Good or Bad Touch from tipping Moxxi?

You can only get one Bad Touch (per character) (in theory, apparently there are some exceptions). You can get a Good Touch anytime you tip her enough.

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
4.Should I get more better gears before I enter TVHM? Or just get 'em in TVHM?

No, quite wastine time, go kill the Warrior and move on to TVHM. If you want to do some of the DLC missions that's the time to do those (because you won't be over leveled).

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
5.Once I finish the Normal mode and reset to TVHM, the whole story, missions reset, and the creatures get stronger. And It wont affect the worlds of DLCs, am I right?

The game remembers your progress separately for each difficulty mode. DLC zones are set the first time you enter them during a given difficulty.

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
Tbh Im not sure if I have that patience to play second playthrough, maybe I would just enjoy DLCs.

I advise against that. Captain Scarlett and Mr. Torgue cap out at level 30 in Normal mode. Sir Hammerlock and Tiny Tina cap out at level 35. (I don't recall the Headhunter caps). If you're over leveled, you won't have much, if any fun.

What I suggest, is that you do the main game and main game side quests during Normal mode, then do the main story and a DLC or two in TVHM (to keep things fresh).

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
or these worries above are just nothing to do with Normal Mode, just enjoy the first playthrough?

Correct. Play the game, do enough side quests to keep yourself on-level for the next main story mission. Then do the next main story mission, and move on. Use the gear you find, don't bother farming.
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Draekus Jun 17, 2018 @ 11:40am 
Draekus Jun 17, 2018 @ 11:43am 
try not to get too far over level 30 when you defeat the Warrior.
Vi Jun 17, 2018 @ 12:20pm 
The Talon of God is the last mission regarding the story.......now is best to keep that as the last one, so when you hit that just do the side quests, there's a lot.,.and also you'll know you finished them all after achieving "DID IT ALL" ..anyway after these just finish the dlc games plus their sidequests..and also all arenas, raid bosses, secret bosses and then and only then go and finish the game with a blast and go with that "The Talon of God" mission...and after this there is the bonus boss, you'll see who that is!So this is how it might be for a first playthrough, after finishing , as you start the second playthrough, well the enemies will be at level 35 and going up and so on...so you get the idea.Cheers!

PS: at bosses is best to enter in co-op , you as teh host at a lower level and the co-op dudes or dudettes at higher levels...this way will be much better...meaning you're at level 32 let's say, teh boss is at 34 and the co-op friends are at 72..will be a walk in the park!
Draekus Jun 17, 2018 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by Vali:
The Talon of God is the last mission regarding the story.......now is best to keep that as the last one, so when you hit that just do the side quests, there's a lot.,.and also you'll know you finished them all after achieving "DID IT ALL" ..anyway after these just finish the dlc games plus their sidequests..and also all arenas, raid bosses, secret bosses and then and only then go and finish the game with a blast and go with that "The Talon of God" mission...and after this there is the bonus boss, you'll see who that is!So this is how it might be for a first playthrough, after finishing , as you start the second playthrough, well the enemies will be at level 35 and going up and so on...so you get the idea.Cheers!

PS: at bosses is best to enter in co-op , you as teh host at a lower level and the co-op dudes or dudettes at higher levels...this way will be much better...meaning you're at level 32 let's say, teh boss is at 34 and the co-op friends are at 72..will be a walk in the park!
this has to be one of the worst pieces of advice i've ever read.
seriously ??
set up the Player to fail..
then make it so other's have to ride to his rescue...
or did i miss somethin' ?
HelmsDerp Jun 17, 2018 @ 1:33pm 
At this point in Normal there's no point doing any quests below your level. Rewards don't scale until the end of TVHM so any gear you get will be useless. But the good news is soon you'll be in TVHM and can do those quests at a higher level with the guns scaled to match.

As much as you might get attached to certain quest reward guns (many of them are very good) there's not a lot of point to trying to keep them on level until UVHM. Get them as soon as they become available, use them until they're outleveled. The game throws enough good loot at you that there will always be something decent you can replace them with as long as you're willing to experiment.
Akoms Jun 17, 2018 @ 2:55pm 
Thanks for responding, I have a direction now:demoticon:
Tatanka Jun 18, 2018 @ 1:28am 
Why is this so important?
I just do all missions, until nothing is left but main story mission. First time i completed main mission i was 38 and had no trouble conitnuing in tvhm.
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Nakos Jun 18, 2018 @ 4:11am 
I concur with Draekus, try to finish Normal mode as close to level 30 as possible.

The base game has MORE content than is necessary. Let alone throwing in any DLC content. The Story Missions are required, everything else is optional. Do enough go get to the appropriate level for the main story mission, and then move on. Don't worry about skipping optional content in Normal or in TVHM. You can mix it up if you like, but don't expect to be able to do all of it.

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
According to Reddit, Level scaling happens in TVHM(Rush main storylines, then all side missions rewards level will scale to 50, same as UVHM)
And Im not sure if it happens in Normal Mode, too.

1.If yes, did I waste these side missions weapons?(collecting it at a low level)

My recollection is that it does NOT occur in Normal mode.

But regardless, it's not relevant even if it does happen, because you'll be speeding through levels too fast for it to make much difference anyway. It does matter a BIT in TVHM. (First, because back during the original release, TVHM (level 50) was max level. Second (after the introduction of UVHM) it was about getting good gear to begin UVHM with.

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
2.How can I get a HIGH-LEVEL weapons in farming, such like Lv.30 Infinity? I got a lv.9 requirement Rapid Infinity few days ago, when Im lv.20.

The Infinity drops from Doc Mercy. During Normal Mode Doc Mercy will be fixed at level 7-9. Period. It is possible to get a world drop Infinity, but they are very, very rare.

And the bottom line: It's not worth it, the Infinity is crap. Pay less attention to what color your weapons are, and MORE attention to what level they are. The way damage scaling works, weapon level is about the most important thing to keep in mind.

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
3. Same as question 2, how can I get a HIGH-LEVEL Good or Bad Touch from tipping Moxxi?

You can only get one Bad Touch (per character) (in theory, apparently there are some exceptions). You can get a Good Touch anytime you tip her enough.

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
4.Should I get more better gears before I enter TVHM? Or just get 'em in TVHM?

No, quite wastine time, go kill the Warrior and move on to TVHM. If you want to do some of the DLC missions that's the time to do those (because you won't be over leveled).

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
5.Once I finish the Normal mode and reset to TVHM, the whole story, missions reset, and the creatures get stronger. And It wont affect the worlds of DLCs, am I right?

The game remembers your progress separately for each difficulty mode. DLC zones are set the first time you enter them during a given difficulty.

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
Tbh Im not sure if I have that patience to play second playthrough, maybe I would just enjoy DLCs.

I advise against that. Captain Scarlett and Mr. Torgue cap out at level 30 in Normal mode. Sir Hammerlock and Tiny Tina cap out at level 35. (I don't recall the Headhunter caps). If you're over leveled, you won't have much, if any fun.

What I suggest, is that you do the main game and main game side quests during Normal mode, then do the main story and a DLC or two in TVHM (to keep things fresh).

Originally posted by Smoka Smoka:
or these worries above are just nothing to do with Normal Mode, just enjoy the first playthrough?

Correct. Play the game, do enough side quests to keep yourself on-level for the next main story mission. Then do the next main story mission, and move on. Use the gear you find, don't bother farming.
HiTmAn Jun 18, 2018 @ 5:01am 
its best to finish normal at 35.tvhm as lvl 50. tvhm start as lvl 35 and uvhm start as lvl 50 then u getting gear on lvl...
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