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RFC ✅ 15 września 2019 o 17:51
Borderlands, plot hole, the story is messed up? (possible spoilers)
Remember back in the old days, when you killed the Destroyer in Borderlands 1? Yep, you don't kill the destroyer nowadays, because the ending was changed in BL1 remaster, just to complain with the ending of BL3.

And how this affect the story? Well..

"In Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, it is revealed that Jack obtained the Destroyer's eye after its death and used it to create a superweapon for the under-construction Helios Moonbase. Dubbed "The Eye of Helios", it was capable of destroying entire settlements and nearly led to the destruction of Pandora's moon Elpis when Colonel Zarpedon of Dahl's renegade Lost Legion stole control of Helios" [https://borderlands.fandom.com/wiki/The_Destroyer](Source)

How this is going to happen if the Destroyer still alive? And if we consider that this have a huge impact on Pre-Sequel itself, then, it will have a huge impact on BL2 as well, since the events of the game *could* be different.

Borderlands 1 original boss:
https://youtu.be/URXzXyThaXE?t=315

Borderlands 1 remastered boss:
https://youtu.be/-TWAGqLzF_8?t=536

Why they did it? It created a huge plot hole in the series IMHO.

What do you guys think about?

EDIT: This post ISN'T about Borderlands 3! Is about Borderlands in general, about the plot of the entire franchise!
Ostatnio edytowany przez: RFC ✅; 16 września 2019 o 19:18
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If you look hard enough, you can find plot holes and inconsistencies in almost any story.

Well I guess some of them can be explained by "the character went momentarily braindead" rather than things being actually impossibe.

But this is borderlands, a series that's never really had an amazing plot. Its selling point is fun characters and lots of different guns. At least for me, I didn't really care about the overarching plot. In some cases having a plot was almost a negative (like I didn't really want to defeat handsome jack, he was the most interesting character so why would I want to kill him?).

It's really unsurprising there was a lazy retcon here. Cause thing is, its probably less than 5% of the playerbase that's paying enough attention to the plot to notice something like that, and probably over half of the people who noticed don't care.
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Rule of cool over rule of thought, the Gearbox way.
RFC ✅ 15 września 2019 o 20:27 
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Rule of cool over rule of thought, the Gearbox way.

That's sad, they're ruining this game.
Reborn 15 września 2019 o 20:47 
SPOILER ALERT. The destroyer is the final boss in borderlands 3 as its the monster in great vault and plays a significant role in the story. It's not a plot hole they changed it for story purposes and yes I know this because I've already beat the game. Have fun being spoiled oh also Maya dies.
Haxxor 15 września 2019 o 21:02 
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It's not a plot hole they changed it for story purposes

That's the definition of a plothole you donut
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Haxxor; 15 września 2019 o 21:02
Reborn 15 września 2019 o 21:04 
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It's not a plot hole they changed it for story purposes

That's the definition of a plothole you donut

It's not a plot hole since they address it directly in the third game.

At least as far as im concerned it all makes since as of now.
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Reborn; 15 września 2019 o 21:05
Haxxor 15 września 2019 o 21:18 
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That's the definition of a plothole you donut

It's not a plot hole since they address it directly in the third game.

At least as far as im concerned it all makes since as of now.

How do they address it? How do they explain the story being changed?
Unless they introduce time travel or some ♥♥♥♥ (Which would be lame) it will not make sense.
This is a plot hole whether you like it or not.
Reborn 15 września 2019 o 21:45 
They address it by simply having the characters believe the reworked ending is the actual ending. I don't see where your confusion comes in all they did was retcon and change something movies and games do it all the time and I don't understand why you're getting so worked up.
Killzone 15 września 2019 o 22:20 
Such a complex plot needed retconned? /s

Is there any aspect of BL3 that isnt a result of a lazy poorly executed cash grab?
marex 15 września 2019 o 22:57 
ah one of the first whiny threads with salted "fans" and review bombs on bl2 again. thats why bl3 will be never on steam
Ostatnio edytowany przez: marex; 15 września 2019 o 22:58
Nope 15 września 2019 o 23:00 
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ah one of the first whiny threads with salted "fans" and review bombs on bl2 again. thats why bl3 will be never on steam
Well go tell that to EGS, why are you even here then?
Haxxor 15 września 2019 o 23:36 
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They address it by simply having the characters believe the reworked ending is the actual ending. I don't see where your confusion comes in all they did was retcon and change something movies and games do it all the time and I don't understand why you're getting so worked up.

I'm not suggesting movies or games do not do this. I'm saying you are wrong for stating that this is NOT a plothole.

This is a plothole at its finest.

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ah one of the first whiny threads with salted "fans" and review bombs on bl2 again. thats why bl3 will be never on steam

What does pointing out the inconsistencies of the game have to do with review bombing? Wtf

Ostatnio edytowany przez: Haxxor; 15 września 2019 o 23:38
JonWoo 15 września 2019 o 23:53 
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That's the definition of a plothole you donut

It's not a plot hole since they address it directly in the third game.

At least as far as im concerned it all makes since as of now.
Because they don't kill the destroyer or at least remove it's eye, Jack never got it to make the laser. It's a small inconsistency created by a needless/lazy retcon. But you know how some people can get with even minor plot holes.
RFC ✅ 16 września 2019 o 14:50 
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ah one of the first whiny threads with salted "fans" and review bombs on bl2 again. thats why bl3 will be never on steam

So Borderlands 3 will never be on Steam because people that likes good stories cannot point those inconsistencies? Well, maybe I know why they target EGS: because Fortnite kids skips cutscenes?
Ostatnio edytowany przez: RFC ✅; 16 września 2019 o 15:14
Nihil 16 września 2019 o 15:11 
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SPOILER ALERT. The destroyer is the final boss in borderlands 3 as its the monster in great vault and plays a significant role in the story. It's not a plot hole they changed it for story purposes and yes I know this because I've already beat the game. Have fun being spoiled oh also Maya dies.
Enjoy your ban for spoiling here major stuff. Reported
Ostatnio edytowany przez: Nihil; 16 września 2019 o 15:11
Tiberius 16 września 2019 o 16:56 
Początkowo opublikowane przez Rebornscannon:
SPOILER ALERT. The destroyer is the final boss in borderlands 3 as its the monster in great vault and plays a significant role in the story. It's not a plot hole they changed it for story purposes and yes I know this because I've already beat the game. Have fun being spoiled oh also Maya dies.

Stupid fck didnt even use spoiler format :steamfacepalm:
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